SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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On another note, Karro Ramo of the flames just had his exit interview.
Of the teams actively looking for a starting goalie this offseason, Edmonton, Buffalo and the Sharks are the top 3. I have to assume a chance to be a #1 for the Sharks and signing your first UFA contract in California is slightly more tempting than either of the two perennial bottom feeders. McDavid and Eichel are not going to turn those teams around overnight any more than Crosby/Ovechkin did for their teams.
Then again, Edmonton's tax rate is only 38.3% vs San Jose's 52.9%. That is a difference of nearly $150000 per million and the cost of a house is twice as high in San Jose - j0e Th0rnton
I wouldn't mind a Ramo/Stalock tandem...........but my favorite goalie pickup for us would be to trade for Talbot if available. |
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j0e Th0rnton
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 01.01.2008
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I wouldn't mind a Ramo/Stalock tandem...........but my favorite goalie pickup for us would be to trade for Talbot if available. - SJSharks39
Oh hell yes. I really like Talbot too. Would make sense for them to trade him to another conference too.
I just don't know what their asking price would be and if they would part with him yet.
Talbot would be my first choice, followed by Anderson. But Ramo is next up and Ramo would not require us to trade a 2nd(Likely cost since goalie market is saturated with more supply than demand)
Dubnyk is almost certainly staying with the wild. Almost the same as Petry is almost certainly staying with the habs(Petry would be my first UFA choice for a Dman, followed by Green)
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SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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Oh hell yes. I really like Talbot too. Would make sense for them to trade him to another conference too.
I just don't know what their asking price would be and if they would part with him yet.
Talbot would be my first choice, followed by Anderson. But Ramo is next up and Ramo would not require us to trade a 2nd(Likely cost since goalie market is saturated with more supply than demand)
Dubnyk is almost certainly staying with the wild. Almost the same as Petry is almost certainly staying with the habs(Petry would be my first UFA choice for a Dman, followed by Green) - j0e Th0rnton
Yeah it's tough b/c i wouldn't give up no more than a 3rd rder & a mid level type prospect.....but we don't have a 3rd rder until 2017. I wouldn't want to give up too much for him being that he's just got 1yr left on his deal.
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j0e Th0rnton
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 01.01.2008
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Yeah it's tough b/c i wouldn't give up no more than a 3rd rder & a mid level type prospect.....but we don't have a 3rd rder until 2017. I wouldn't want to give up too much for him being that he's just got 1yr left on his deal. - SJSharks39
I'd give a 2nd flat for a good goalie. Even with only 1 year left. |
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j0e Th0rnton
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 01.01.2008
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Well, he's not really hidden among the CHL players, but he definitely was at the time of the draft. He was a very hot topic this season. Since he was in the middle of a breakout season. He was the last cut for the Canadian world juniors team. However, he clearly belonged there. We drafted him in the 5th round, but most people agree he's clearly now one of the best prospects of his draft class.
Our top prospects coming up in 2 seasons:
Rourke Chartier, Kelowna Rockets, C/RW
Kevin Labanc, Barrie Colts, RW
Julius Bergman, London Knights, D
Nikita Jevpalovs (LW) , Noah Rod (C), and Goldobin (RW) will join the professional ranks next season. I'm sure we're all more interested in them currently since they're the more imminent arrival. Hockey's Future has Jevpalovs and Goldobin listed as our best prospects for their respective wing positions. Although, I will say that I think Dylan Sadowy might end up being better than Jevpalovs when it's all said and done from the LW position - IDtheJC
https://twitter.com/DubFr...status/598161590777679872
terrific pass by Chartier there
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Hey Tim,
Just to let you know, Rourke was scheduled to miss game 1 against Brandon, but at game time he told the coach he was going to tough it out. Check out the video I posted with the interview. I had to double check, but he actually played in Game 1. he picked up an assist. So, he has 3 Goals and 3 Assists in 3 games. Pretty amazing production against, arguably, the best team in the WHL. - IDtheJC
Good to hear. He had underwhelming numbers prior to this so that's a good sign. |
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SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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I'd give a 2nd flat for a good goalie. Even with only 1 year left. - j0e Th0rnton
I hear ya, but giving up a 2nd for potentially 1yr of service doesn't sit well with me though. |
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SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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https://twitter.com/DubFromAbove/status/598161590777679872
terrific pass by Chartier there - j0e Th0rnton
Chartier |
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IDtheJC
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Location: Hagerstown, MD Joined: 01.17.2015
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Good to hear. He had underwhelming numbers prior to this so that's a good sign. - Tim Chiasson
Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He has been battling injuries the entire second half of the season. Even playing below 100% he was at a ppg pace AND leading the team in Goals scored. So, if that's his floor that's pretty darn good still. He's not putting up points at a rate like McDavid, but he's getting 1-3 per night on most occasions. Also, for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs he wasn't playing on the Power Play on many occasions because they were managing his minutes. |
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IDtheJC
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Location: Hagerstown, MD Joined: 01.17.2015
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https://twitter.com/DubFromAbove/status/598161590777679872
terrific pass by Chartier there - j0e Th0rnton
That was crazy sick. Well played by everyone there. |
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Sharx1
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Location: Gilroy, CA Joined: 02.27.2007
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I'd give a 2nd flat for a good goalie. Even with only 1 year left. - j0e Th0rnton
2n in 2016, not this year |
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j0e Th0rnton
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 01.01.2008
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2n in 2016, not this year - Sharx1
Yep. We have two 2nd rounders in 2016. Give them one for Talbot |
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SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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Yep. We have two 2nd rounders in 2016. Give them one for Talbot - j0e Th0rnton
Screw that noise, i don't think it's worth it b/c there's no guarantee he'd resign & we would've gave away a 2nd rd pick, i'm just not into to that sorry............but i'd package up a 2nd & a 3rd or 4th plus Wingels/Nieto for Andrei Vasilevskiy. |
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j0e Th0rnton
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 01.01.2008
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Screw that noise, i don't think it's worth it b/c there's no guarantee he'd resign & we would've gave away a 2nd rd pick, i'm just not into to that sorry............but i'd package up a 2nd & a 3rd or 4th plus Wingels/Nieto for Andrei Vasilevskiy. - SJSharks39
Oh So would I. But I think he is as untouchable as Gibson. Tampa is my favorite team in the east and I watch them at every opportunity.
Quite frankly, Tampa is more than set at the forward position. For YEARS. Tampa is probably the team I am most jealous of in terms of prospect pool at every position. If Bishop went down again, Vasilevskiy is their ace in the hole, no worries replacement. His ELC is over at the same time as Bishop's contract, and right at the same time, Johnson/Palat are up for raises.
Tampa is going to have cap trouble in 2 years, and can probably get away with easing Vas into the starting role and then giving him a lower contract than that Bishop now commands. How much Stamkos demands this offseason will be key in Tampa's future.
Callahan/Stamkos/Killorn
Kucherov/Johnson/Palat
Drouin/Filppula/JT Brown
Paquette/Boyle/Namestikov
Hedman/Stralman
Garrison/Coburn
Carle/Sustr
Bishop
Vasilevskiy
That is gross. Drouin is top line superstar talent, Namestnikov will be top 6 talent minimum and Paquette is a darn good grinder who can score goals.
This is a team that could lose Stamkos and still be a top team. That is ridiculous.
They also have forwards Brayden Point and Adam Erne in the system, and despite his low ranking, Nesterov is going to be a top 4 dman and DeAngelo probably a top offensive Dman.
I would kill to get Vasilevskiy, but I do not see Yzerman giving him up. He drafted him using a first round pick, rare in this day and age, and Vas has succeeded at every level he has played. |
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Location: *Not Getting The Bit* Regina, SK Joined: 10.03.2007
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Talbot has put up great numbers in a limited role behind one of the best teams and best defences in the league. That may not necessarily translate if we gave him a bigger role here. For a 2nd rounder I'd be willing to risk it but trading picks doesn't seem like DW's MO right now. |
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SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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Oh So would I. But I think he is as untouchable as Gibson. Tampa is my favorite team in the east and I watch them at every opportunity.
Quite frankly, Tampa is more than set at the forward position. For YEARS. Tampa is probably the team I am most jealous of in terms of prospect pool at every position. If Bishop went down again, Vasilevskiy is their ace in the hole, no worries replacement. His ELC is over at the same time as Bishop's contract, and right at the same time, Johnson/Palat are up for raises.
Tampa is going to have cap trouble in 2 years, and can probably get away with easing Vas into the starting role and then giving him a lower contract than that Bishop now commands. How much Stamkos demands this offseason will be key in Tampa's future.
Callahan/Stamkos/Killorn
Kucherov/Johnson/Palat
Drouin/Filppula/JT Brown
Paquette/Boyle/Namestikov
Hedman/Stralman
Garrison/Coburn
Carle/Sustr
Bishop
Vasilevskiy
That is gross. Drouin is top line superstar talent, Namestnikov will be top 6 talent minimum and Paquette is a darn good grinder who can score goals.
This is a team that could lose Stamkos and still be a top team. That is ridiculous.
They also have forwards Brayden Point and Adam Erne in the system, and despite his low ranking, Nesterov is going to be a top 4 dman and DeAngelo probably a top offensive Dman.
I would kill to get Vasilevskiy, but I do not see Yzerman giving him up. He drafted him using a first round pick, rare in this day and age, and Vas has succeeded at every level he has played. - j0e Th0rnton
But Tampa will be in a bind after next year b/c of Callahan, Flippula, & Carle's contracts. Stamkos & Kucherov alone is probably going to be a cap hit of 14 to 16mil. Maybe we'd have to take one of those 3 contracts in return to make such a deal happen. |
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SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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Talbot has put up great numbers in a limited role behind one of the best teams and best defences in the league. That may not necessarily translate if we gave him a bigger role here. For a 2nd rounder I'd be willing to risk it but trading picks doesn't seem like DW's MO right now. - Sharks_12
But why would you give up a 2nd rd pick for potentially 1yr of a goalie? |
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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You should have seen him as a defenseman with the Blackhawks. Like watching a bear on skates. |
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j0e Th0rnton
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But why would you give up a 2nd rd pick for potentially 1yr of a goalie? - SJSharks39
Good goalies are not going to come free or cheap.
I understand why you would be reluctant, but chances are, he would resign knowing he is going to be a starter. Right now, he is in a situation where he is not a starter and the other two teams looking for a starting goalie this offseason are Edmonton/Buffalo |
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SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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Good goalies are not going to come free or cheap.
I understand why you would be reluctant, but chances are, he would resign knowing he is going to be a starter. Right now, he is in a situation where he is not a starter and the other two teams looking for a starting goalie this offseason are Edmonton/Buffalo - j0e Th0rnton
But you can't be certain of that, there could be other starting opportunities next offseason when he hits the market. |
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j0e Th0rnton
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 01.01.2008
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But you can't be certain of that, there could be other starting opportunities next offseason when he hits the market. - SJSharks39
Truth.
But Doug Wilson, if nothing else, has a good track record for not letting guys get to UFA |
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SJSharks39
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Location: I'm the OELest , CA Joined: 11.14.2014
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Truth.
But Doug Wilson, if nothing else, has a good track record for not letting guys get to UFA - j0e Th0rnton
Don't get me wrong i'm all for Talbot would love to have him, but wouldn't give up a 2nd for him...... if i'm giving up a 2nd i want somebody we'd have control over, you know what i'm saying. |
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j0e Th0rnton
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 01.01.2008
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Don't get me wrong i'm all for Talbot would love to have him, but wouldn't give up a 2nd for him...... if i'm giving up a 2nd i want somebody we'd have control over, you know what i'm saying. - SJSharks39
I do get what you are saying.
Talbot to me is simply the best, most likely available choice. He played outstanding for the Rangers and secured them another prez trophy. My only issue with him is, it seems the shots that beat him are point shots. He stops all the shots I'd feel certain Niemi would let in up close, but he occasionally let's in a point shot I think he should have had. I'd rather pay a 2nd for him than anything for Lehner, who is a "project" goalie, not certain to be a starter caliber.
The other guy I would want is Anderson. Reasonable cap hit and we know where he stands.
Ramo as UFA would be one I want to take a shot at where it comes to UFA's. The best thing about UFA's are, it only costs us Cap space, not assets.
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IDtheJC
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Location: Hagerstown, MD Joined: 01.17.2015
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I wouldn't give up a 2nd rounder for Talbot either. I would rather do something like Tennyson/Demelo + 4th for Talbot. He's a backup goalie with probably limited pursuers. Not to mention the king isn't going anywhere. If the Rangers drive a hard bargain than I would give them Wingels/Nieto + 6th or 7th. |
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