Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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What about Yakupov? 20 points in his last 28 games.
Will he keep up that pace next year or go back to being invisible?
I'd take a chance on him for sure if he's available. - Scabeh
(frank)ed if I know....
Trade value is so low we might as well keep him. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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That's another thing this fanbase is (frank)ing atrocious for: predicting players' ceilings
Nobody knows. Sure, there's educated guesses and whatnot, but anybody who claims a projection as fact is talking out their ass.
The one that I keep coming back to is Gauthier. He can only ever be a 4th line center because, well, because! - TheThrill
Every goofball fan on these websites is guilty of it. We all need to start the day by acknowledging how ill informed and ignorant we are .....then we can move on to trolling each other. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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The thing about Kessel is that it doesn't matter how good he is ( Kessel >Nash therefore his return should be better)...there's only a select few teams that can afford him and the price in trade, and fewer yet that actually need to add a high end supplementary winger.
Arizona, Boston, , Calgary, Columbus, Calgary, Florida, Dallas, Habs, Nashville, islanders, Devils, Penguins, jets all need a quality game breaking scorer.....now take away the teams that can't afford the salary, have no cap space or are unwilling to part with young assets and picks....who's left? - Jeropotato
San Jose, Nashville, Columbus, Dallas for a start... |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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I would review that list again. - Aetherial
Hey! You don't tell me how to run my team!
But seriously, no, JVR would be the only one I'd be ready to deal for.
I'm very interested to see which GM will pay and how much he will pay to get Kessel and Phaneuf. Personally, I wouldn't, but I'm sure there's one out there that will. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Every goofball fan on these websites is guilty of it. We all need to start the day by acknowledging how ill informed and ignorant we are .....then we can move on to trolling each other. - The Law
Speak for yourself... |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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(frank)ed if I know....
Trade value is so low we might as well keep him. - Jeropotato
Eller, Tinordi and a pick?
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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(frank)ed if I know....
Trade value is so low we might as well keep him. - Jeropotato
I think you keep him... but not because of lack of value. I bet there is some decent trade value there.
To be honest, during one of the Oilers/Leafs games I saw, he looked like the most dynamic player on the ice, by far. He has obviously been abysmal overall in his career, but looking at the skillset, you have to think someone could get him to put it all together.
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The thing about Kessel is that it doesn't matter how good he is ( Kessel >Nash therefore his return should be better)...there's only a select few teams that can afford him and the price in trade, and fewer yet that actually need to add a high end supplementary winger.
Arizona, Boston, , Calgary, Columbus, Calgary, Florida, Dallas, Habs, Nashville, islanders, Devils, Penguins, jets all need a quality game breaking scorer.....now take away the teams that can't afford the salary, have no cap space or are unwilling to part with young assets and picks....who's left? - Jeropotato
the leafs would take back a bad contract if the return was good.
A top 6 of Tavares,Kessel,Okposo,Lee,Strome, and Nelson would be scary |
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Eller, Tinordi and pick?
- fidopro
bad contract, hit or miss prospect, and undefined pick?
no |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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San Jose, Nashville, Columbus, Dallas for a start... - lumlums
San Jose? Can't see it. So much talk of leadership/culture issues on that team not sure if Kessel is the right add. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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Dion Phaneuf International Pylon Bridge |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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bad contract, hit or miss prospect, and undefined pick?
no - GardinerExpress
well, they won't get a good contract, and a good prospect and a good pick. otherwise it would be one for one, not 3 for 1. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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San Jose? Can't see it. So much talk of leadership/culture issues on that team not sure if Kessel is the right add. - Jeropotato
Perhaps, but add in the fact that Doug Wilson is clearly nuttier than Squirrel poop, and anything could happen... |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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the leafs would take back a bad contract if the return was good.
A top 6 of Tavares,Kessel,Okposo,Lee,Strome, and Nelson would be scary - GardinerExpress
Yeah, I think if I were to narrow the list down I would say Nashville, Columbus, Florida, Islanders. Lots of nice pieces on those clubs that fit the age range...especially if you take a contract back. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Speak for yourself... - lumlums
I'm afraid PHD's and law degrees don't count in the world of "I know more poop then you" on Hockeybuzz |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Dion Phaneuf International Pylon Bridge - wingz4life
He'll be playing for you next year |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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bad contract, hit or miss prospect, and undefined pick?
no - GardinerExpress
Not to mention none of those pieces address the Oilers most glaring needs. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Hey! You don't tell me how to run my team!
But seriously, no, JVR would be the only one I'd be ready to deal for.
I'm very interested to see which GM will pay and how much he will pay to get Kessel and Phaneuf. Personally, I wouldn't, but I'm sure there's one out there that will. - fidopro
JVR has benefited greatly by playing with Kessel, just like Bozak, just like Lupul did.
Honestly JVR is lazy and plays smaller than he is. I think he has significant trade value, but I would like to see him gone as he was very much a part of the Leafs "rotten core"... He doesn't fit with my image of the Habs at all. I think Kessel absolutely could change his game and be an impactful player in Montreal. JVR, not as much.
The guy you want is Rielly. I assume you were only looking at players that have a reasonable chance of being traded though.
I also think Kadri is an upgrade on all your centers, except maybe Plekanec.
Gardiner can at least skate enough to keep up with your team ... THAT is the player that we might have McDonagh-like regret over trading. (obviously he will never be as good as McDonagh).
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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I'm afraid PHD's and law degrees don't count in the world of "I know more poop then you" on Hockeybuzz - The Law
Okay, how about "I can throw poop against a wall to see what sticks faster than you"...??? |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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He'll be playing for you next year - lumlums
talk about using a term loosely |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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He'll be playing for you next year - lumlums
nope. 20% chance he survives his mandated night on the streets in detroit |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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I think you keep him... but not because of lack of value. I bet there is some decent trade value there.
To be honest, during one of the Oilers/Leafs games I saw, he looked like the most dynamic player on the ice, by far. He has obviously been abysmal overall in his career, but looking at the skillset, you have to think someone could get him to put it all together. - Aetherial
Crazy, but he was only terrible under Coach Eakins....I personally like him, but am not opposed to trading anyone TBH. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Yeah, I think if I were to narrow the list down I would say Nashville, Columbus, Florida, Islanders. Lots of nice pieces on those clubs that fit the age range...especially if you take a contract back. - Jeropotato
I think we have to take a contract back, the sheer numbers would necessitate it. Obviously the worse the contract that comes back, the greater the return
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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JVR has benefited greatly by playing with Kessel, just like Bozak, just like Lupul did.
Honestly JVR is lazy and plays smaller than he is. I think he has significant trade value, but I would like to see him gone as he was very much a part of the Leafs "rotten core"... He doesn't fit with my image of the Habs at all. I think Kessel absolutely could change his game and be an impactful player in Montreal. JVR, not as much.
The guy you want is Rielly. I assume you were only looking at players that have a reasonable chance of being traded though.
I also think Kadri is an upgrade on all your centers, except maybe Plekanec.
Gardiner can at least skate enough to keep up with your team ... THAT is the player that we might have McDonagh-like regret over trading. (obviously he will never be as good as McDonagh). - Aetherial
Of course Rielly will be good, but he won't be traded. Just like Galchenyuk won't be traded.
I like JVR mostly because of his contract. Habs needs a few wingers who can put the puck in the net. That's why rumours with EDM are coming back in the news every other week.
As for Kadri, we have enought 2nd line center. More than enough. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Okay, how about "I can throw poop against a wall to see what sticks faster than you"...??? - lumlums
Then you'd still trail JohnFergusenJr or whatever his name is ....that guy 'knows' everything. |
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