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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
Still think there is something we don't know on Kassian, everyone's too nonchalant on his back. I also don't think he's one of WD's favorites. Vrbata, Kassian along with Bieksa and a goalie could all be in play.
- VanHockeyGuy


Yeah. We like the guy but.......
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
If they moved Bieksa, Higgins and a goalie, that would be a good off season.

Even if Higgins isn't moved, as long as he isn't top 6 by the end of next season, I'd be okay with that, meaning someone else is on the second line and hopefully second unit pp.

I wonder if the club will try to extend Hamhuis this summer?

- hillbillydeluxe

Hope not. If we are then move Edler
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 23 @ 12:54 PM ET
I could see Canucks giving Grenier a shot at 2 RW. I am not sure he is ready to jump to the very top yet. I would give him the chance over Vrbata .

We know we are going to lose for the next few years so we need patience. Nucker slamming Sbisa all the time when in fact he is getting us a higher draft pick.

3 years of pain

- VANTEL


Club wants to remain competitive, which is what I want- a team that has a chance to win and maybe do something in the playoffs. But if they miss the playoffs, we sure could use a higher draft pick. Win-win. Unless we trade away our picks and miss.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
Hope not. If we are then move Edler
- VANTEL


For the right deal, of course.

I haven't seen enough of Franson lately, but if I had a choice, I'd take Hamhuis at the same cap hit. But if Hamhuis wants a big raise, ask him to waive.

Any manager that hands out a contract with a ntc should put in the caveat that the ntc ends a week prior to tdl on its last year. You re-up with the club, or express some interest in resigning or may be moved, depending on the standings. (I am sure, easier said than done.)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
Club wants to remain competitive, which is what I want- a team that has a chance to win and maybe do something in the playoffs. But if they miss the playoffs, we sure could use a higher draft pick. Win-win. Unless we trade away our picks and miss.

- hillbillydeluxe

This current roster is not fit for the wear and tear of the playoffs. It is a very decent regular season team , but is not built for battles. You have to tear it down and rebuild it .

I hate when teams go out with a game plan of let's be mediocre this year. This year with so many good teams being eliminated early there is a bevy of talented players ready to be shuffled. I don't think Trader Jim is a lazy GM and I see him working the phones really hard.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 23 @ 1:05 PM ET
For the right deal, of course.

I haven't seen enough of Franson lately, but if I had a choice, I'd take Hamhuis at the same cap hit. But if Hamhuis wants a big raise, ask him to waive.

Any manager that hands out a contract with a ntc should put in the caveat that the ntc ends a week prior to tdl on its last year. You re-up with the club, or express some interest in resigning or may be moved, depending on the standings. (I am sure, easier said than done.)

- hillbillydeluxe

I wish the NHL would do away with NTCs and instead allow two franchise players per team only.

I would definitely keep Hammer over Franson too, but would hope Canucks look in a different direction
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 23 @ 1:12 PM ET
This current roster is not fit for the wear and tear of the playoffs. It is a very decent regular season team , but is not built for battles. You have to tear it down and rebuild it .

I hate when teams go out with a gem plan of let's be mediocre this year. This year with so many good teams being eliminated early there is a bevy of talented players ready to be shuffled. I don't think Trader Jim is a lazy GM and I see him working the phones really hard.

- VANTEL


I don't know what Benning's plans are but I am expecting more moves. don't think he will tear it down but hope he moves a couple players with higher salaries.

He better move a fecking goalie, Vancouver is almost looking like a goalie development team instead of a graveyard Don't want it to be a place where gt's are stuck behind guys and never get a fair shot.

Need slots for youth in the lineup. Talk about playoffs, it is usually younger or less heralded players that step up and make a name for themselves. Guys that are fighting for a job or contract. Too many on the Canucks don't want to pay the physical price. Matthias should have upped his game more. Higgins is so picky when it comes to hitting, had a game or so when he was hitting a lot, otherwise it looks like a no contact practice from him.

If only Richardson had Kassian's size.

Regarding trading Vrbata and signing Joel Ward, that would be great. Get a nice pick or prospect for Vrbata and not give up anything to sign Ward sounds like moves we need to make.

If we can get a nice pick back for Weber, Corrado or Stanton, I think that would be great. Didn't mind the Clandening signing, but now we need some of these guys in the lineup on a regular basis or moved.

coffee is kicking in.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 23 @ 1:18 PM ET
This current roster is not fit for the wear and tear of the playoffs. It is a very decent regular season team , but is not built for battles. You have to tear it down and rebuild it .

I hate when teams go out with a game plan of let's be mediocre this year. This year with so many good teams being eliminated early there is a bevy of talented players ready to be shuffled. I don't think Trader Jim is a lazy GM and I see him working the phones really hard.

- VANTEL




I do as well, it's tough to make deals these days. He'll make a move at/or prior to the draft with his infatuation for picks. Maybe he surprises us.
Grumpy13
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 01.09.2014

May 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
Please JB, no Franson.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 23 @ 1:26 PM ET
I don't know what Benning's plans are but I am expecting more moves. don't think he will tear it down but hope he moves a couple players with higher salaries.

He better move a fecking goalie, Vancouver is almost looking like a goalie development team instead of a graveyard Don't want it to be a place where gt's are stuck behind guys and never get a fair shot.

Need slots for youth in the lineup. Talk about playoffs, it is usually younger or less heralded players that step up and make a name for themselves. Guys that are fighting for a job or contract. Too many on the Canucks don't want to pay the physical price. Matthias should have upped his game more. Higgins is so picky when it comes to hitting, had a game or so when he was hitting a lot, otherwise it looks like a no contact practice from him.

If only Richardson had Kassian's size.

Regarding trading Vrbata and signing Joel Ward, that would be great. Get a nice pick or prospect for Vrbata and not give up anything to sign Ward sounds like moves we need to make.

If we can get a nice pick back for Weber, Corrado or Stanton, I think that would be great. Didn't mind the Clandening signing, but now we need some of these guys in the lineup on a regular basis or moved.

coffee is kicking in.

- hillbillydeluxe



I don't think Benning will tear it down all the way either. I am just saying they should
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Applicable to the Canucks, on LA thread just posted behind this one.

"Size and the "Identity" Game"
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
I don't think Benning will tear it down all the way either. I am just saying they should
- VANTEL




You are right.

With the amount of tickets I have bought, I should be winning the lottery too and sending over a crate of Naked Grape delivered by a young Filipina... still don't see it happening though.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 23 @ 2:24 PM ET

Enjoy the scenery Carol.

I'm not sure what wineries you'll be passing through, but I recommend:

South:

Church and State
Burrowing Owl

Naramata:

Marichel
Serendipity
Hillside
Lake Breeze(for the food and view, not wine)
Bench 1775
La Frenz

Summerland:

8th Generation
Summergate
Thornhaven
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
Thanks, especially about the game time.

I've fixed that, but can't fix the BC Business link off my phone.

We're headed to the start line at Tinhorn Creek now, so we won't be able to get to Penticton before 1:00...

- Carol Schram


Tinhorn has some good wines.

Carol are you headed as far up the highway to Kelowna?

If so, on the way Dirty Laundry has some great wines and has a beautiful winery/patio.

If you do get to Kelowna Little Straw and Rollingdale are must stops.

Rollingdale is the only fully Organic certified in that area run by a couple guys out of a quonset. Don't look like much but their wines are very very good.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
Wyatt Arndt @TheStanchion
Skytrain got shut down this morning? God damn it, Cole Cassels probably did it.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
Jason Lewis with a good blog:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=68842
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 23 @ 2:43 PM ET
I wish the NHL would do away with NTCs and instead allow two franchise players per team only.

I would definitely keep Hammer over Franson too, but would hope Canucks look in a different direction

- VANTEL


Hammer defensively is a better option for sure (right now) but Hamhuis' PPG is dwindling rapidly...as is Edler's. We need a plan in place to move on from Edler, Hammer and Bieksa and maybe bringing Franson in at a decent price would be a good start to that.

Franson has not been utilized properly in TO and especially his last go in NSH. I can see why Benning would look at him if the value is there. Right hand shot to try on the PP with Sedins and a big body back on D. In the right system he may flourish and as of right now he would be a massive upgrade in PPG over Bieksa and Hammer. Probably Edler as well.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
Tinhorn has some good wines.

Carol are you headed as far up the highway to Kelowna?

If so, on the way Dirty Laundry has some great wines and has a beautiful winery/patio.

If you do get to Kelowna Little Straw and Rollingdale are must stops.

Rollingdale is the only fully Organic certified in that area run by a couple guys out of a quonset. Don't look like much but their wines are very very good.

- LordHumungous


Summergate and Saxon are also certified organic. Summergate is excellent (they only produce white though) and Saxon is, well it's run by very nice people.
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

May 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
Summergate and Saxon are also certified organic. Summergate is excellent (they only produce white though) and Saxon is, well it's run by very nice people.
- CubanBuffet



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 23 @ 2:52 PM ET


You are right.

With the amount of tickets I have bought, I should be winning the lottery too and sending over a crate of Naked Grape delivered by a young Filipina... still don't see it happening though.

- hillbillydeluxe

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
"Canucks defenseman combined for 135 points last season, worse than every team in the NHL save for the Florida Panthers, Edmonton Oilers, New Jersey Devils and Buffalo Sabres. That’s not the sort of company you want to keep."

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
I wish the NHL would do away with NTCs and instead allow two franchise players per team only.

I would definitely keep Hammer over Franson too, but would hope Canucks look in a different direction

- VANTEL


Both would be ok, if you get a knuckle dragger.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
Summergate and Saxon are also certified organic. Summergate is excellent (they only produce white though) and Saxon is, well it's run by very nice people.
- CubanBuffet


Meh, no great deals at OK wineries, certified organic is also overrated. The smaller less famous ones are the ones to check out. Black Cloud for example, my bud is a winemaker there.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
"Canucks defenseman combined for 135 points last season, worse than every team in the NHL save for the Florida Panthers, Edmonton Oilers, New Jersey Devils and Buffalo Sabres. That’s not the sort of company you want to keep."


- LeftCoaster


No kidding, it's embarrassing. JB being a defenceman has to see that.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
"Canucks defenseman combined for 135 points last season, worse than every team in the NHL save for the Florida Panthers, Edmonton Oilers, New Jersey Devils and Buffalo Sabres. That’s not the sort of company you want to keep."


- LeftCoaster

Apparently, Cody Franson will end that.
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