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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 24 @ 4:47 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Pelle Lindbergh, Jim Craig & the Iconic Flag; Tears & Triumph; Memorial Cup
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

May 24 @ 7:22 AM ET
The great Gus. If they get a 7th rd pick consider it a steal.

Bill any idea what team may want him it who
You think would be a good fit for him
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 24 @ 7:58 AM ET
I would rather keep him and watch his progression and push the decision to next year then get a 7th. I would consider a 4th or above.

Or

Rights to Gus plus a 3rd for the rights to Burmistrov?


What does everyone think the rights to Gus is worth in a trade?
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 24 @ 8:03 AM ET
I would rather keep him and watch his progression and push the decision to next year then get a 7th. I would consider a 4th or above.

Or

Rights to Gus plus a 3rd for the rights to Burmistrov?


What does everyone think the rights to Gus is worth in a trade?

- coffee junkie

nada
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

May 24 @ 8:24 AM ET
How was his year in the KHL this year, Bill ? No idea what he'd be worth. At this point he just another case of....." Where young defenceman go to die" ie the Flyers.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 24 @ 8:25 AM ET
Watching those game 5 highlights against the Canadians was awesome, thanks bill. First time in a long time I think the flyers are on a planned course to build a team that can win consistently. No idea if it'll work out, but I'm all in! I want that feeling from 2010 again.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

May 24 @ 8:28 AM ET
Just some thoughts on Morin from yesterdays game. He is definitely not NHL ready. When he has the puck he is pretty solid at making a pass and is a good skater going forward. Defends the front of the net well and angles well in his own end when skating forward. Defending the rush is a mixed bag and may ultimately be what determines the type of player he will be. He got turned around a few times yesterday that made me wonder if he will ever make it to the nhl. Guys with speed and skill get him moving his feet and he eventually gets stumbling and he even fell a few times. Not sure how he is going to pan out at the nhl level.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

May 24 @ 8:29 AM ET
How was his year in the KHL this year, Bill ? No idea what he'd be worth. At this point he just another case of....." Where young defenceman go to die" ie the Flyers.
- landros 2

What young dman have come here and died?

wow someone thinks gus can get a 4th rd pick. he would have been traded yesterday if that was the case
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 24 @ 8:30 AM ET
What young dman have come here and died?

wow someone thinks gus can get a 4th rd pick. he would have been traded yesterday if that was the case

- rinaldo

I didn't say he was worth that, I said that is what it would take for me to trade him. You can just hold him and wait/hope for him to mature.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 24 @ 8:36 AM ET
Gus' rights are worth squat, he's a 6/7 at best. You can easily sign a guy like that in free agency
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 24 @ 8:37 AM ET
Just some thoughts on Morin from yesterdays game. He is definitely not NHL ready. When he has the puck he is pretty solid at making a pass and is a good skater going forward. Defends the front of the net well and angles well in his own end when skating forward. Defending the rush is a mixed bag and may ultimately be what determines the type of player he will be. He got turned around a few times yesterday that made me wonder if he will ever make it to the nhl. Guys with speed and skill get him moving his feet and he eventually gets stumbling and he even fell a few times. Not sure how he is going to pan out at the nhl level.
- MrPerfect316

Big, tall dmen often take the longest time to develop, he'll be fine
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 24 @ 8:42 AM ET
Big, tall dmen often take the longest time to develop, he'll be fine
- BiggE


Hakstol will develop the poop out of him once he's on the big club
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 24 @ 9:07 AM ET
Big, tall dmen often take the longest time to develop, he'll be fine
- BiggE


Agreed, Morin gets a very long leash. I don't need to see a Chara - Yashin trade anytime soon.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 24 @ 9:35 AM ET
What young dman have come here and died?

wow someone thinks gus can get a 4th rd pick. he would have been traded yesterday if that was the case

- rinaldo


Jason Bowen
Jeff Woywitka
Kevin Marshall

All that really comes to mind. Unless he's being literal and means Dmitri Tertyshny.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
Thanks for the flag mystery Bill. It's almost like a National Treasure movie...lol. One thing keeps leading to another. How the "real" flag will be identified is almost impossible to tell. That is why I stick to collecting hockey cards instead of signed pictures, and jerseys.
In my opinion, Dineen would be a good assistant coach choice for the team. If Hakstol doesn't pan out, Dineen could take over the helm, and I would feel comfortable with that choice. Any other coaching suggestions out there; goalie coaches?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
Thanks for the flag mystery Bill. It's almost like a National Treasure movie...lol. One thing keeps leading to another. How the "real" flag will be identified is almost impossible to tell. That is why I stick to collecting hockey cards instead of signed pictures, and jerseys.
In my opinion, Dineen would be a good assistant coach choice for the team. If Hakstol doesn't pan out, Dineen could take over the helm, and I would feel comfortable with that choice. Any other coaching suggestions out there; goalie coaches?

- OrangeAndBlack1


Patch forgeries are rampant in eBay card sales. The cards themselves are legit, but swapping out a patch swatch for a multicolored is pretty easy with a sharp blade and some tweezers.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 24 @ 9:43 AM ET
The great Gus. If they get a 7th rd pick consider it a steal.

Bill any idea what team may want him it who
You think would be a good fit for him

- rinaldo


That might be the best they'll get.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
@IgorEronko

Nikita Zaitsev, one of the most promising Russian defenders, told R-Sport he's going to stay in the #KHL for 1 more year #NHL

So the Zaitsev door is apparently closed for a year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 24 @ 9:47 AM ET
That might be the best they'll get.
- ob18


Could he try to get an uninsured tryout with another team and hope he plays well enough for the team to want to acquire his rights? Not sure if players on QOs are allowed or not.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 24 @ 9:54 AM ET
Could he try to get an uninsured tryout with another team and hope he plays well enough for the team to want to acquire his rights? Not sure if players on QOs are allowed or not.
- jmatchett383


Like a PTO? Pretty sure that isn't allowed.

I like Gus, think he's a decent third pair guy, nothing special. But he's cheap and has been fairly effective when healthy. I think his trade value is nil, maybe as a throw in to sweeten a bigger deal.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
Good point JM383. I do have some limited edition cards, but nothing with additional features such as parts of a jersey, etc..
I try to keep life simple, and not get to carried away with collecting hockey things. I might have an old Hartzy jersey for sale...lol. Only worn once, because my wife had a jersey thing at work...sheesh. I tried to give her a non-numbered jersey, but she loved the way the "new look" Flyers jersey was. Hey, I am just glad that I was able to teach her the team names...lol.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
Could he try to get an uninsured tryout with another team and hope he plays well enough for the team to want to acquire his rights? Not sure if players on QOs are allowed or not.
- jmatchett383


His rights are the Flyers, don't think he can do that with another team.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 24 @ 10:11 AM ET
Like eating half of vinnys deal and throwing in Gus
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 24 @ 10:26 AM ET
Gus' rights are worth squat, he's a 6/7 at best. You can easily sign a guy like that in free agency
- BiggE

Then hold onto him and wait until next year and reevaluate. No need to throw away assets. No fuss to move Gus.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 24 @ 10:32 AM ET
what about the iconic matt walker?
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