LeftCoaster
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Problem is we need to Draft D-Men now and Centre later. With 3 years of sedins we have time to train a future #1 Centre, we have no#1 dman now, so unless we get more draft picks, we better be drafting d - Retinalz
You have seven picks, in theory, every draft. They need to draft both centers and dmen in the next three years with their top three picks. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Problem is we need to Draft D-Men now and Centre later. With 3 years of sedins we have time to train a future #1 Centre, we have no#1 dman now, so unless we get more draft picks, we better be drafting d - Retinalz
Unless we get to draft haffinen, provorov or werenzski I'd rather take a forward. |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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You have seven picks, in theory, every draft. They need to draft both centers and dmen in the next three years with their top three picks. - LeftCoaster
But in Theory rounds 4-7 will likely never see NHL play, and if they do it is as depth players not stars. Jamie Benn is not available in every draft for one lucky team. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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You have seven picks, in theory, every draft. They need to draft both centers and dmen in the next three years with their top three picks. - LeftCoaster
Either way you cut it JB needs to recoup picks in this years draft, he would be a hero if he could snag a late first rounder. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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But in Theory rounds 4-7 will likely never see NHL play, and if they do it is as depth players not stars. Jamie Benn is not available in every draft for one lucky team. - Retinalz
That's why I said the first three picks (rnds 1-2-3) are essential to "hit" on. The organization needs both a high-end center and a high-end defenseman. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Unless we get to draft haffinen, provorov or werenzski I'd rather take a forward. - manvanfan
BPA Center or Defence. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Either way you cut it JB needs to recoup picks in this years draft, he would be a hero if he could snag a late first rounder. - VanHockeyGuy
He's said that's his goal, to recover a pick, hopefully he's successful. |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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That's why I said the first three picks (rnds 1-2-3) are essential to "hit" on. The organization needs both a high-end center and a high-end defenseman. - LeftCoaster
true, but we need the Defenseman more than the Center coming into this draft |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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That's why I said the first three picks (rnds 1-2-3) are essential to "hit" on. The organization needs both a high-end center and a high-end defenseman. - LeftCoaster
As things stand right now JB has one "hit". |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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He's said that's his goal, to recover a pick, hopefully he's successful. - LeftCoaster
Pick seeding is huge here as well.
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Something's up with Vrbata, no ones talking, probably not happy. Move him Now! - VanHockeyGuy
What are they saying in the lower mainland about Vrbata? Why is he not happy? |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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As things stand right now JB has one "hit". - VanHockeyGuy
??? he's had one draft and was hired a month before it took place. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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What are they saying in the lower mainland about Vrbata? Why is he not happy? - LordHumungous
WD wouldn't elaborate at the post mortem, second line duty perhaps. He could net a good pick. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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??? he's had one draft and was hired a month before it took place. - LeftCoaster
Talking this years draft (no 2nd or 3rd) so far. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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true, but we need the Defenseman more than the Center coming into this draft - Retinalz
Given the time it takes to properly develop and young player, especially a defenseman, I'd agree. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Talking this years draft (no 2nd or 3rd) so far. - VanHockeyGuy
As mentioned, I'm not worried until draft day. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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WD wouldn't elaborate at the post mortem, second line duty perhaps. He could net a good pick. - VanHockeyGuy
It would suck to lose Vrbata's reg. season production, but after watching him flounder around in the playoffs I would be totally ok moving him for the pick.
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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2017/18 the Canucks only have seven players signed, that's three seasons away....change is coming |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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As mentioned, I'm not worried until draft day. - LeftCoaster
Benning has an opportunity to make a splash at the draft, make some timely deals, maybe trade up or ???. His activity in the next few weeks will dictate season ticket sales throughout the summer. He has to be aware of that. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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It would suck to lose Vrbata's reg. season production, but after watching him flounder around in the playoffs I would be totally ok moving him for the pick.
- LordHumungous
Benning suggests Sven can possibly fill a top 6 role next season. He has value, we need picks/prospects.
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Anyone here watch the game tonight? Missed it. Daddy-o's 59th B-day. - vancity787
Vantel is your Dad as well? |
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rugdnit
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Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA Joined: 11.29.2006
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WD wouldn't elaborate at the post mortem, second line duty perhaps. He could net a good pick. - VanHockeyGuy
Probably best we are not hearing ANYTHING.
Once stuff gets out... You are dealing from a position of weakness.
Can't wait for the draft to see what they have in store.... If much at at. |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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What are they saying in the lower mainland about Vrbata? Why is he not happy? - LordHumungous
I just went back and watched some of the post season media availability, the Vrbata segment, and he seemed okay. Didn't throw anyone under the bus. Just sort of said the team on the whole has to get better and every other team is looking to improve too.
Vrbata didn't have a great playoffs but who really did? I am not against trading him to get a good pick or prospect, but can't really understand why anyone would think he is sh!tty team mate or whatever.
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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I just went back and watched some of the post season media availability, the Vrbata segment, and he seemed okay. Didn't throw anyone under the bus. Just sort of said the team on the whole has to get better and every other team is looking to improve too.
Vrbata didn't have a great playoffs but who really did? I am not against trading him to get a good pick or prospect, but can't really understand why anyone would think he is sh!tty team mate or whatever. - hillbillydeluxe
Could all be behind the doors stuff, I heard there was an issue between him and the twins saying something along the lines of "you could try passing to other people, not just between yourselves." |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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Could all be behind the doors stuff, I heard there was an issue between him and the twins saying something along the lines of "you could try passing to other people, not just between yourselves." - Retinalz
Thought there was some talk about going for an empty netter at some point in the season too. Whether Vrbata was being selfish or something.
Vrbata isn't wrong about the passing... they often look to pass to each other and hesitate to pass it to others that are open and hold on to wait for the other Sedin to get open.
I am a fan, they play so well together but the more they use their line mates, the better the line can be, they will have more space to make plays. Vrbata wants to score, might be a bit selfish, but you don't see him passing the puck away when he has a wide open net either.
edit: it was a good bounce back season for the Sedins, and having Vrbata on the 2nd line may have made teams recognize the 2nd line as a possible threat, and helped the first line. |
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