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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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On Bartkowski: "he makes poor defensive puck decisions"
Play him with Bieksa or Sbisa?
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stevekariya
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Location: Gaud's Plan, BC Joined: 09.19.2014
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vanhockeyguy
Was gonna say, sounds like JB already got his Bartowski equivalent in asking for Sbisa from ANA
Now to look for a Dennis Seidenberg but not sign him for too-long term like he is now |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Michael Stuart
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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If the Canucks want a young, dynamic D with tons of potential, take a look at Tampa's Mark Barberio in the offseason. Price likely won't be very high, as it doesn't seem like he's in the team's plans moving forward. Hasn't been given an opportunity to showcase his offensive abilities in the NHL, but was a stud in the AHL. |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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Forget resigning Miller, move him to San Jose. - VanHockeyGuy
Dude! wtf? The only way I'd want Miller resigned is if Lack is traded, Markstrom is sucking and Demko or any of our other goalies are not ready and it would be a 1 or 2 year contract sans ntc and at a lower cap hit.
Would love to see Miller in a Sharks uni. I don't even care what the return is if we don't eat salary. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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If the Canucks want a young, dynamic D with tons of potential, take a look at Tampa's Mark Barberio in the offseason. Price likely won't be very high, as it doesn't seem like he's in the team's plans moving forward. Hasn't been given an opportunity to showcase his offensive abilities in the NHL, but was a stud in the AHL. - Michael_Stuart
We already have a few guys like that in Utica. But our patchwork may entail that kind of player. |
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hillbillydeluxe
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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At his worst, he makes poor defensive puck decisions, doesn’t win board battles or loses position in front on his net. BK
A cheaper version of Bieksa or Sbisa... get'er done JB |
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Grumpy13
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 01.09.2014
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Worth a try but is an RFA. What would TB want for him? |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Dude! wtf? The only way I'd want Miller resigned is if Lack is traded, Markstrom is sucking and Demko or any of our other goalies are not ready and it would be a 1 or 2 year contract sans ntc and at a lower cap hit.
Would love to see Miller in a Sharks uni. I don't even care what the return is if we don't eat salary. - hillbillydeluxe
Goaltending is the least of our problems. I really don't care who they keep. Trade Miller to free up $$$ this summer. |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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Goaltending is the least of our problems. I really don't care who they keep. Trade Miller to free up $$$ this summer. - VanHockeyGuy
You are right, but still needs to be addressed or Lack may walk after next season.
Trade Bieksa or Burrows to free up some cap. Wonder if Burr would waive to go to Florida? He has a slight discount on salary vs cap hit. |
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moondawg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Island, BC Joined: 02.01.2007
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We don't need another under performing Dman. We need a legit top 1-2 dman.
We already have all the depth dmen in the system. No offense, but Bartowski sounds like Stanton. Who we are likely ditching for nothing.
Here the UFA D list:
Mike Green(Caps)
Francois Beauchemin (Ducks)
Paul Martin (Penguins)
Cody Franson (Nashville)
Jeff Petry (Habs)
Marek Zidlicky (Red Wings)
Andrej Sekera (Kings)
Johnny Oduya (Blackhawks)
Lubomir Visnovsky (Islanders)
Christian Ehrhoff (Penguins)
Barret Jackman (Blues)
Zbynek Michalek (Blues)
Of these I'd only be interetsed in Green, Petry and Franson. None are great, but at least they are all under 30. Green can produce points as well. He knows how to run a PP. |
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Michael Stuart
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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Worth a try but is an RFA. What would TB want for him? - Grumpy13
I don't think it would be very much at all. A late pick. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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You are right, but still needs to be addressed or Lack may walk after next season.
Trade Bieksa or Burrows to free up some cap. Wonder if Burr would waive to go to Florida? He has a slight discount on salary vs cap hit. - hillbillydeluxe
Trade Miller, sign Lack. Trade Bieksa, Hamhuis, Higgins. Get 4 younger Defenceman by trade or UFA. |
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pker2theend
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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If the Canucks want a young, dynamic D with tons of potential, take a look at Tampa's Mark Barberio in the offseason. Price likely won't be very high, as it doesn't seem like he's in the team's plans moving forward. Hasn't been given an opportunity to showcase his offensive abilities in the NHL, but was a stud in the AHL. - Michael_Stuart
Obviously he would cost more but do you think KoekKoek would be available with DeAngelo being added to he depth charts ?
Barberio has had an excellent AHL career so far but compares to Clendening and Weber that we have in the system already.
KoekKoek has a greater ceiling imo and there is still a logjam infront of him with Hedman,Stralman,Carle, Garrison and Sujst long term and other guys in the short term. |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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We don't need another under performing Dman. We need a legit top 1-2 dman.
We already have all the depth dmen in the system. No offense, but Bartowski sounds like Stanton. Who we are likely ditching for nothing.
Here the UFA D list:
Mike Green(Caps)
Francois Beauchemin (Ducks)
Paul Martin (Penguins)
Cody Franson (Nashville)
Jeff Petry (Habs)
Marek Zidlicky (Red Wings)
Andrej Sekera (Kings)
Johnny Oduya (Blackhawks)
Lubomir Visnovsky (Islanders)
Christian Ehrhoff (Penguins)
Barret Jackman (Blues)
Zbynek Michalek (Blues)
Of these I'd only be interetsed in Green, Petry and Franson. None are great, but at least they are all under 30. Green can produce points as well. He knows how to run a PP. - moondawg
What is scary about ufa's with any perceived value is the term that is often associated with an inflated price tag and often the desire to have a ntc included. I'd look at all of these guys as band-aids until something better comes along. Green is intriguing but I haven't seen a lot of him, know he will be expensive, but unsure if he is a specialist or really a top 2 dman? |
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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We don't need another under performing Dman. We need a legit top 1-2 dman.
We already have all the depth dmen in the system. No offense, but Bartowski sounds like Stanton. Who we are likely ditching for nothing.
Here the UFA D list:
Mike Green(Caps)
Francois Beauchemin (Ducks)
Paul Martin (Penguins)
Cody Franson (Nashville)
Jeff Petry (Habs)
Marek Zidlicky (Red Wings)
Andrej Sekera (Kings)
Johnny Oduya (Blackhawks)
Lubomir Visnovsky (Islanders)
Christian Ehrhoff (Penguins)
Barret Jackman (Blues)
Zbynek Michalek (Blues)
Of these I'd only be interetsed in Green, Petry and Franson. None are great, but at least they are all under 30. Green can produce points as well. He knows how to run a PP. - moondawg
I agree the team needs to acquire a top 2 D but realistically you don't get them in FA. Green was getting bottom pairing minutes in Was, and Franson also tends to be sheltered.
Petry is the only guy I see being a solid addition in the top 4 out of that list and IMO is not good enough to bump Edler or Tanev out of the "top line" we currently have. |
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moondawg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Island, BC Joined: 02.01.2007
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Please get Erhoff back. - pker2theend
He's broken |
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He's broken - moondawg
Perfect fit then |
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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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Obviously he would cost more but do you think KoekKoek would be available with DeAngelo being added to he depth charts ?
Barberio has had an excellent AHL career so far but compares to Clendening and Weber that we have in the system already.
KoekKoek has a greater ceiling imo and there is still a logjam infront of him with Hedman,Stralman,Carle, Garrison and Sujst long term and other guys in the short term. - belcherbd
Don't think there's any way that Koekkoek is available. I think they'll look at him to replace Matt Carle in a year or two. Sustr still has so many question marks, too. DeAngelo and Koekkoek are the future building blocks on defense (with Hedman obviously already in the mix). |
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moondawg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Island, BC Joined: 02.01.2007
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What is scary about ufa's with any perceived value is the term that is often associated with an inflated price tag and often the desire to have a ntc included. I'd look at all of these guys as band-aids until something better comes along. Green is intriguing but I haven't seen a lot of him, know he will be expensive, but unsure if he is a specialist or really a top 2 dman? - hillbillydeluxe
Green was sheltered, but in the playoffs and down the stretch he was playing more. He played 2nd unit PP and produced, often without Ovie, as Ovie was out there with Carlsson. |
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moondawg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Island, BC Joined: 02.01.2007
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I agree the team needs to acquire a top 2 D but realistically you don't get them in FA. Green was getting bottom pairing minutes in Was, and Franson also tends to be sheltered.
Petry is the only guy I see being a solid addition in the top 4 out of that list and IMO is not good enough to bump Edler or Tanev out of the "top line" we currently have. - belcherbd
No, but Petry (at 27)sure is an upgrade over Bieksa (at 33).
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Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: BC Joined: 08.29.2013
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Two solid years in the AHL to get stronger and faster should do the trick. As long as he does the complete opposite of what Niklas Jensen is doing , he should be fine. |
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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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He's broken - moondawg
we will fix him. |
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