DynamicThreads
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 07.03.2013
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It depends on how you look at it. Foligno is an actual NHL player already. A second rounder is going to be years away. We need some sort of veteran players on the team, so I'd rather not trade one of them who's had his own struggles and has had to figure out how to work through them. I'm not saying I wouldn't trade him ever, I just don't think trading him for a guy like Eddie Lack is really necessary either. That's all. - HonkFortheGoose
Would he have made an NHL roster if his dad's team didn't draft him? The guy is pretty much a career AHL'er playing in the NHL because of that fact. MFE should be in the bottom 6 before him. I mean, I've never seen anyone hustle so much to do so little, but at least he does hustle his arse off.
And before anyone brings up Nick Foligno and how it took him a few years to develop, I can honestly say Nick always looked like a good player. He always hustled, always played the body and always played hard, was always solid defensively. Marcus? Sorry, but no.
Also, they are two completely different human beings. It's like saying Grigorenko will become like Afinogenov because it took Max a few years to really flourish as a player. |
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Jacob582
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Location: NJ Joined: 06.06.2012
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All of this just could have been solved by taking Fucale and not Compher - hubie
All of this just could have been solved by taking Vasilevskiy and not Grigorenko. |
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DynamicThreads
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 07.03.2013
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All of this just could have been solved by taking Vasilevskiy and not Grigorenko. - Jacob582
All of this could have been solved by not trading Hasek to Detroit for Vyacheslav Kozlov. |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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All of this could have been solved by not trading Hasek to Detroit for Vyacheslav Kozlov. - DynamicThreads
All of THIS could have been solved by not trading Tom Barasso for Doug Bodger and Darrin Shannon. |
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All of THIS could have been solved by not trading Tom Barasso for Doug Bodger and Darrin Shannon. - TheSabresTaco
All of this could have been solved if Bob Sauve wasn't included in a separate trade for a 1st round pick to the Red Wings when Gare, Schoenfeld,and Derek Smith were dealt to Detroit for Mike Foligno, Dale McCourt and Brent Peterson |
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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Would he have made an NHL roster if his dad's team didn't draft him? The guy is pretty much a career AHL'er playing in the NHL because of that fact. MFE should be in the bottom 6 before him. I mean, I've never seen anyone hustle so much to do so little, but at least he does hustle his arse off.
And before anyone brings up Nick Foligno and how it took him a few years to develop, I can honestly say Nick always looked like a good player. He always hustled, always played the body and always played hard, was always solid defensively. Marcus? Sorry, but no.
Also, they are two completely different human beings. It's like saying Grigorenko will become like Afinogenov because it took Max a few years to really flourish as a player. - DynamicThreads
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sippyd
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Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY Joined: 09.30.2007
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All of this could have been solved if Bob Sauve wasn't included in a separate trade for a 1st round pick to the Red Wings when Gare, Schoenfeld,and Derek Smith were dealt to Detroit for Mike Foligno, Dale McCourt and Brent Peterson - GilPerreault11
Best answer.
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Would he have made an NHL roster if his dad's team didn't draft him? The guy is pretty much a career AHL'er playing in the NHL because of that fact. MFE should be in the bottom 6 before him. I mean, I've never seen anyone hustle so much to do so little, but at least he does hustle his arse off.
And before anyone brings up Nick Foligno and how it took him a few years to develop, I can honestly say Nick always looked like a good player. He always hustled, always played the body and always played hard, was always solid defensively. Marcus? Sorry, but no.
Also, they are two completely different human beings. It's like saying Grigorenko will become like Afinogenov because it took Max a few years to really flourish as a player. - DynamicThreads
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Foligno is an NHL'er.
His biggest issue is being on the Sabres and never once having a defined role. He went from top 6 winger on a hot line, to struggling 3rd line left winger, to 4th line center, back to wing.
Put him on the Hawks 3rd or 4th line and he's a valuable player. He has skill
That being said, I wouldn't miss him if he's moved |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Murray has pretty much said they'll be drafting a goalie pretty high this year, and also that he'll be trading for one.
He'd prefer a younger guy, but isn't opposed to a placeholder for a few years until a young guy is ready.
Makes sense
Obv remains to be seen who we get in a trade.
They may depend on who we draft |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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DVRd the game, so I just started watching.
Callahan is Tampa's leading points guy in the Cup, but he gets a bad rep BC he's "overpaid"
I just don't get all this hate for him?
Sure, Tampa would've like for him to score like this all playoffs, but he did have an emergency appendectomy early in round 1
And he's managed to be their leading hitter
Also, Cooper put an "A" on his sweater
Meanwhile,
Sharp hasn't scored since GAME TWO of the 2ND ROUND
And some on here want us to trade for him?
I really hope we do not (not that he's horrible)
Is Callahan overpaid?
Probably
But he's still a really good player
And he contributes in big ways, even when he's not scoring |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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DVRd the game, so I just started watching.
Callahan is Tampa's leading points guy in the Cup, but he gets a bad rep BC he's "overpaid"
I just don't get all this hate for him?
Sure, Tampa would've like for him to score like this all playoffs, but he did have an emergency appendectomy early in round 1
And he's managed to be their leading hitter
Also, Cooper put an "A" on his sweater
Meanwhile,
Sharp hasn't scored since GAME TWO of the 2ND ROUND
And some on here want us to trade for him?
I really hope we do not (not that he's horrible)
Is Callahan overpaid?
Probably
But he's still a really good player
And he contributes in big ways, even when he's not scoring - jdfitz77
He has 2 goals in 20 something games. He isn't that good and never was |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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DVRd the game, so I just started watching.
Callahan is Tampa's leading points guy in the Cup, but he gets a bad rep BC he's "overpaid"
I just don't get all this hate for him?
Sure, Tampa would've like for him to score like this all playoffs, but he did have an emergency appendectomy early in round 1
And he's managed to be their leading hitter
Also, Cooper put an "A" on his sweater
Meanwhile,
Sharp hasn't scored since GAME TWO of the 2ND ROUND
And some on here want us to trade for him?
I really hope we do not (not that he's horrible)
Is Callahan overpaid?
Probably
But he's still a really good player
And he contributes in big ways, even when he's not scoring - jdfitz77
The reason people want Sharp is not only is he a good player, his contract is very short. Right now, with this kind of cap room, any "good" player with a contract of 3 years or less is a great fit for this team, assuming you don't have to give up an arm or a leg to get him. |
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Slump Buster
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Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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The reason people want Sharp is not only is he a good player, his contract is very short. Right now, with this kind of cap room, any "good" player with a contract of 3 years or less is a great fit for this team. - buffalofan19
I think most here would take him if it didn't involve giving up valuable assets. That's why in the end I think he will go to a team like the caps who have a need rather than a "nice to have".
Would #51 get Talbot? I'm thinking that wouldn't be enough. |
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The reason people want Sharp is not only is he a good player, his contract is very short. Right now, with this kind of cap room, any "good" player with a contract of 3 years or less is a great fit for this team, assuming you don't have to give up an arm or a leg to get him. - buffalofan19
Don't want Sharp, don't need Sharp, he doesn't fit in the rebuild and his ship has sailed. Nice name 2-3 years ago. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Why do some think we have to give up a lot for a goalie? we don't and we don't need a 5 mill a yr goalie either. I think 4 mill a year is a lot to pay a goalie, that should be the least of our worry. - SABRES 89
Bylsma disagrees
He said on the radio the other day that you need a very good one, and u build from the goalie out
Then you need a good top 4
Then u need to be strong down the middle
Those were his words
I agree
This notion that teams win the Cuo with average goaltending is nonsense
You at least need a "good" goalie who is capable of going on a "great" run
That's not a guy like Neuvirth or Lindback, or any other goalie we're likely to get on the cheap
Ya, they looked good for small stretches. But I don't trust that sample size.
But for us to go anywhere,
We're gonna need better. Much better
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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He has 2 goals in 20 something games. He isn't that good and never was - sbroads24
You're wrong
And always were |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Don't want Sharp, don't need Sharp, he doesn't fit in the rebuild and his ship has sailed. Nice name 2-3 years ago. - GilPerreault11
I fail to see how an experienced veteran with championship experience on a short term deal doesn't fit a rebuild. A guy like that is perfect for a rebuild in every aspect. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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You're wrong
And always were - jdfitz77
The numbers speak for themselves.
His even strength scoring put him with the likes of Chris Kelly and many other 3rd liners before his trade to TB. Travis Yost wrote a great article on how incredibly over rated he is. And his performance in the playoffs, which by the way isn't just underwhelming this season, proves it |
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I fail to see how an experienced veteran with championship experience on a short term deal doesn't fit a rebuild. A guy like that is perfect for a rebuild in every aspect. - buffalofan19
Gionta fills that void |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Bolts stink - homiedclown
They have spark.
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Gionta fills that void - GilPerreault11
In every way but the talent part. This team should be stockpiling themselves with that kind of player. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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The reason people want Sharp is not only is he a good player, his contract is very short. Right now, with this kind of cap room, any "good" player with a contract of 3 years or less is a great fit for this team, assuming you don't have to give up an arm or a leg to get him. - buffalofan19
Idk
We got our "leaders" last year
Sharp is too inconsistent with the scoring now. And he's been a 3rd liner for them for most of the season
He's still decent, just not worth what I think we'd have to give up for him
And he's on the downswing. By the time we're competing for the Cup he prob won't even be here still anyways.
I guess I don't really see the point |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Bylsma disagrees
He said on the radio the other day that you need a very good one, and u build from the goalie out
Then you need a good top 4
Then u need to be strong down the middle
Those were his words
I agree
This notion that teams win the Cuo with average goaltending is nonsense
You at least need a "good" goalie who is capable of going on a "great" run
That's not a guy like Neuvirth or Lindback, or any other goalie we're likely to get on the cheap
Ya, they looked good for small stretches. But I don't trust that sample size.
But for us to go anywhere,
We're gonna need better. Much better - jdfitz77
We don't need a 4 mill a year goalie |
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