kinda steep, especially since i doubt Bieksa will be any good by the time we're ready.

I'm indifferent on Lack for 31.
- Sabresfan-365

Bieksa and lack for 21 and one of your 2nd's pref 31 but likely the higher one.

Bieksa and lack for 21 and one of your 2nd's pref 31 but likely the higher one.
- Retinalz

Can't see pick 21 getting moved for anyone over the age of 25, let alone someone in his mid 30s.

Bieksa's just not a good fit for buffalo unless he's coming in cheap and is willing to take a 1 year deal (which i seriously doubt he would)

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Extension or not, I don't see Bieksa going to Edmonton. They already have Ference. Not that they couldn't use Bieksa too, but I think they'd be more interested in someone a little younger, like Tanev.

And would Bieksa really waive his NTC to go to Edmonton? Why not a contender like Kesler and Garrison demanded? If it's just about the money he'd be best off waiting until he's a UFA.

Just a guess, but I'd agree with Carol that a contender like St Louis is a little more likely.

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Can't see pick 21 getting moved for anyone over the age of 25, let alone someone in his mid 30s.

Bieksa's just not a good fit for buffalo unless he's coming in cheap and is willing to take a 1 year deal (which i seriously doubt he would)
- Sabresfan-365

21 overall would easily be moved for someone over 25. the team has plenty of youth. They need vets to help bring those youth's up. More than a few vets on the team are useless, hence last season before the blow-up. Bieksa has proven to be a leader that young players look up to and can help them develop. Especially someone like Evander Kane.

Can't see pick 21 getting moved for anyone over the age of 25, let alone someone in his mid 30s.

Bieksa's just not a good fit for buffalo unless he's coming in cheap and is willing to take a 1 year deal (which i seriously doubt he would)
- Sabresfan-365

? Bogo, gorges, and ristolainen are better. Could use another vet in there. Threats that if zadorov doesn't improve or he's being sent down.

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- VanHockeyGuy

Eddie lack just became worth a first.

21 overall would easily be moved for someone over 25. the team has plenty of youth. They need vets to help bring those youth's up. More than a few vets on the team are useless, hence last season before the blow-up. Bieksa has proven to be a leader that young players look up to and can help them develop. Especially someone like Evander Kane.
- Retinalz

and those vets will be gone and replaced with better vets who won't cost the 21st pick.

They could go after someone in their prime like O'Reilly but that will likely be 21+

? Bogo, gorges, and ristolainen are better. Could use another vet in there. Threats that if zadorov doesn't improve or he's being sent down.
- manvanfan

Easier to just overpay for one short term in FA then pay a 1st rounder for a guy who won't be around when we're good again.

Easier to just overpay for one short term in FA then pay a 1st rounder for a guy who won't be around when we're good again.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't think it was bieska for 21. I believe is was lack and bieska for a 1st and a 2nd.

and those vets will be gone and replaced with better vets who won't cost the 21st pick.

They could go after someone in their prime like O'Reilly but that will likely be 21+
- Sabresfan-365

O'Reilly has future #1/2 d man written all over him(wish nucks had him tbh) he would be like 21/31/other 2nd and a b prospect. Kid has skills. But you guys have several future top4 and even possible top2 dmen(one could even be a #1 someday if he developes properly). Someone like Bieksa would help tremendously with that. Plus it is not Bieksa for 21 it is lack and Bieksa for 21/the higher of the 2 2nd's(i think it is around 50?)

Easier to just overpay for one short term in FA then pay a 1st rounder for a guy who won't be around when we're good again.
- Sabresfan-365

Bieska can be signed to a cheaper extension for a year or 2 more.

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Blackhawks -245
592 hits given, 837 against

Canadiens -89
Canucks -44

Lightning are +18
- VanHockeyGuy

Awesome.

I don't think it was bieska for 21. I believe is was lack and bieska for a 1st and a 2nd.
- manvanfan

That's how i broke it down though, giving up a 2nd for lack and 1st for bieksa, if they were on the cusp of making the playoffs it'd be one thing but after giving up two good wing prospects in the kane trade i think they could use a 2nd first rounder this year.

Arghhhhhh

That Nathan Beaulieu signing by makes the Luca Sbisa contract look even more Asinine.

That's how i broke it down though, giving up a 2nd for lack and 1st for bieksa, if they were on the cusp of making the playoffs it'd be one thing but after giving up two good wing prospects in the kane trade i think they could use a 2nd first rounder this year.
- Sabresfan-365

A lot of people agree lack to buf is 31st overall and some people speculate bieksa for a t40 pcik is not out of the questions. So Lack and Bieksa for a 21 and 50(or around there i believe is the other 2ne buf has) is not out of the question.

EDITED 21 as accidentally put 2 in there

A lot of people agree lack to buf is 31st overall and some people speculate bieksa for a t40 pcik is not out of the questions. So Lack and Bieksa for a 21 and 50(or around there i believe is the other 2ne buf has) is not out of the question.

EDITED 21 as accidentally put 2 in there
- Retinalz

Thing is, i don't think the gap between 31-52 is the same as going from a top 40 pick to 21st. The other issue being there's no guarantee he'd waive to come here. even if we offered him an extension i imagine he'd want to be on a contending team.

If they want to add a vet d-man they could try martin short term, may have a shot there with bylsma as hc.

That's how i broke it down though, giving up a 2nd for lack and 1st for bieksa, if they were on the cusp of making the playoffs it'd be one thing but after giving up two good wing prospects in the kane trade i think they could use a 2nd first rounder this year.
- Sabresfan-365

Your 21 pick this year doubtfully will make the NHL. You have a lot of younger good players already. You can become the next edmonton oilers but my suggestion would be to give up the extra picks for players that can actually play in the NHL. Players take time to develop. No matter how many top picks you have.

Thing is, i don't think the gap between 31-52 is the same as going from a top 40 pick to 21st. The other issue being there's no guarantee he'd waive to come here. even if we offered him an extension i imagine he'd want to be on a contending team.

If they want to add a vet d-man they could try martin short term, may have a shot there with bylsma as hc.
- Sabresfan-365

Martin short term would cost 6 per season i'm guessing, same goes with Green.

Your 21 pick this year doubtfully will make the NHL. You have a lot of younger good players already. You can become the next edmonton oilers but my suggestion would be to give up the extra picks for players that can actually play in the NHL. Players take time to develop. No matter how many top picks you have.
- manvanfan

Kane and Bogosian say hi. So do the extra 2nd rounders. They need established players no doubt but 21st overall for a 35 year old just isn't good value unless you're competing for the cup (and even then im not so sure). They need vets, but they also need to keep the cupboard full.

21 and 31 could also be used to move up, lots of options for Murray that probably rank ahead of going after Bieksa.

Martin short term would cost 6 per season i'm guessing, same goes with Green.
- manvanfan

Sabres have the cap to make that happen, short term at least.

Sabres have the cap to make that happen, short term at least.
- Sabresfan-365

Let me put this in perspective for you. Raphael Diaz traded to the rangers, made the stanley cup finals.
Willie Mitchell signs with the LA kings. Wins 2 stanley cups.
Jason Garrison traded from Vancouver to Tampa bay, they are now in the stanley cup finals.

DO YOU NEED A BIGGER REASON TO TAKE A VANCOUVER DEFENCEMEN ON?!?!?!?! hahaha

Let me put this in perspective for you. Raphael Diaz traded to the rangers, made the stanley cup finals.
Willie Mitchell signs with the LA kings. Wins 2 stanley cups.
Jason Garrison traded from Vancouver to Tampa bay, they are now in the stanley cup finals.

DO YOU NEED A BIGGER REASON TO TAKE A VANCOUVER DEFENCEMEN ON?!?!?!?! hahaha
- manvanfan

Now why can't they do that for us while THEY'RE HERE!!!!