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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Do or Die Time for Utica Comets, Trade Fits for Bieksa
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phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 14 @ 8:03 AM ET
I wanna see the defence next year look like
Edler-Tanev
Hamhuis-Clendening
Sbisa-Corrado
Weber (or anyone else)

No point to trade Hamhuis is anyone could mke Clendening a solid defenceman it would be hamhuis. Would rather trade Edler then Hamhuis (return would be better and edlers hit and miss)
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 14 @ 9:42 AM ET
I wanna see the defence next year look like
Edler-Tanev
Hamhuis-Clendening
Sbisa-Corrado
Weber (or anyone else)

No point to trade Hamhuis is anyone could mke Clendening a solid defenceman it would be hamhuis. Would rather trade Edler then Hamhuis (return would be better and edlers hit and miss)

- phyllee


If they trade Bieksa (or one of the other vets) they need to bring in another veteran D-man. This is too young and too soft. Trading Bieksa and Edler would leave our "toughest" remaining D-man as... um... Sbisa?

They also need a bigger veteran presence than this if you want to develop these young D properly. I don't really consider Edler that guy (is he the guy we want teaching the young guys???). I also don't see Tanev as that guy yet. Still a little young, and he seems pretty quiet. Maybe he is, but this doesn't seem like the optimal development environment.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:29 AM ET
Reports yesterday that Detroit was previously unwilling to trade their 1st or Mantha, but now would be.

Perhaps time to reopen those Edler conversations...
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 14 @ 10:30 AM ET
If they trade Bieksa (or one of the other vets) they need to bring in another veteran D-man. This is too young and too soft. Trading Bieksa and Edler would leave our "toughest" remaining D-man as... um... Sbisa?

They also need a bigger veteran presence than this if you want to develop these young D properly. I don't really consider Edler that guy (is he the guy we want teaching the young guys???). I also don't see Tanev as that guy yet. Still a little young, and he seems pretty quiet. Maybe he is, but this doesn't seem like the optimal development environment.

- KB3Point0

That's OK.

You guys are signing Franson....
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 14 @ 10:31 AM ET
Reports yesterday that Detroit was previously unwilling to trade their 1st or Mantha, but now would be.

Perhaps time to reopen those Edler conversations...

- KB3Point0

..but u need to take back a shatty contract (Weiss) to get him
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:41 AM ET
I'm shopping my Dad's old Sinatra records.
- A_SteamingLombardi

if you find a buyer let me know, i need to get rid of my fathers Sinatra too
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:54 AM ET
I wanna see the defence next year look like
Edler-Tanev
Hamhuis-Clendening
Sbisa-Corrado
Weber (or anyone else)

No point to trade Hamhuis is anyone could mke Clendening a solid defenceman it would be hamhuis. Would rather trade Edler then Hamhuis (return would be better and edlers hit and miss)

- phyllee


i want to see

Edler Tanev
Dillon Franson
Bartowski Clendenning
Pedan Sbisa Corrado

I know you guys dont want Franson but Canucks need someone to shoot the puck
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:55 AM ET
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...hire-gm-before-nhl-draft/

That's how you get sh!t done.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 14 @ 10:55 AM ET
That's OK.

You guys are signing Franson....

- mr.sir

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 14 @ 10:56 AM ET
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-wont-hire-gm-before-nhl-draft/

That's how you get sh!t done.

- Marwood

Talk about power mad.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:57 AM ET
That's OK.

You guys are signing Franson....

- mr.sir


i heard reports last week that Leafs have interest also it is a very weak UFA crop

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 14 @ 11:02 AM ET
i heard reports last week that Leafs have interest also it is a very weak UFA crop
- VANTEL

It seems to get weaker every summer.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:23 AM ET
It seems to get weaker every summer.
- thundachunk

Even more of a reason for proper trades, contracts and development
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:46 AM ET
..but u need to take back a shatty contract (Weiss) to get him
- mr.sir

Edler Sbisa Grenier for Mantha , 19 th overall Weiss
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 14 @ 12:08 PM ET
i want to see

Edler Tanev
Dillon Franson
Bartowski Clendenning
Pedan Sbisa Corrado

I know you guys dont want Franson but Canucks need someone to shoot the puck

- VANTEL


Nothing wrong with having Franson here as long as we move the right DMEN (cough cough) Hamhuis and Bieksa out. If Franson is used properly he will be just fine here.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 14 @ 12:20 PM ET
If they trade Bieksa (or one of the other vets) they need to bring in another veteran D-man. This is too young and too soft. Trading Bieksa and Edler would leave our "toughest" remaining D-man as... um... Sbisa?

They also need a bigger veteran presence than this if you want to develop these young D properly. I don't really consider Edler that guy (is he the guy we want teaching the young guys???). I also don't see Tanev as that guy yet. Still a little young, and he seems pretty quiet. Maybe he is, but this doesn't seem like the optimal development environment.

- KB3Point0


Keeping Bieksa here at this point is redundant...unless MNGT feels the need to give him 'one more shot'. He is unwilling to play the role in which he is needed that was pretty clear last season. He doesn't fight or crash and bang anymore and is basically a turnover machine. I like the guy and what he has done in the past here for us but if he doesn't meet our requirements why keep him?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 12:23 PM ET
Keeping Bieksa here at this point is redundant...unless MNGT feels the need to give him 'one more shot'. He is unwilling to play the role in which he is needed that was pretty clear last season. He doesn't fight or crash and bang anymore and is basically a turnover machine. I like the guy and what he has done in the past here for us but if he doesn't meet our requirements why keep him?
- LordHumungous



This core has been given enough chances. Bring in fresh meat
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 14 @ 12:29 PM ET
This core has been given enough chances. Bring in fresh meat
- VANTEL


Go all in on ROR, tell COL to pick any 2 D.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
Go all in on ROR, tell COL to pick any 2 D.
- VanHockeyGuy

Minus Tanev
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
Go all in on ROR, tell COL to pick any 2 D.
- VanHockeyGuy

Apparently they wanted to do edler for ror last year
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 14 @ 12:46 PM ET
Apparently they wanted to do edler for ror last year
- Retinalz


Which would be fine for both teams.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 14 @ 12:46 PM ET
Apparently they wanted to do edler for ror last year
- Retinalz


It would take more than Edler I think.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 14 @ 12:47 PM ET
This core has been given enough chances. Bring in fresh meat
- VANTEL

Agree 100% I just have a feeling that Bieksa will be given until TDL here...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 12:50 PM ET
It would take more than Edler I think.
- VanHockeyGuy

Throw n Sbisa them
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 12:50 PM ET
Agree 100% I just have a feeling that Bieksa will be given until TDL here...
- LordHumungous

Not a chance . Gone in two weeks
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