Obviously cab you have never been to pokey joes on a saturaday morning and watched a sweet set of square dancing....rookie
- lung3r

White men can't dance
- cabin

Black men can't read (reed, reid)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrsX-qQW9g

if Philly offers pick 29 and either McDonald or Vinny to the Sabres for pick 51 and say Larsson (random prospect), do you make that trade?
- homiedclown

No. It's a lateral move at best if everything goes right, which is a big if. It's not worth the risk.

Black men can't read (reed, reid)
- homiedclown

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- lung3r

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp9DbQgif7w

if Philly offers pick 29 and either McDonald or Vinny to the Sabres for pick 51 and say Larsson (random prospect), do you make that trade?
- homiedclown

Me like Larsson, so no.

No. It's a lateral move at best if everything goes right, which is a big if. It's not worth the risk.
- buffalofan19

what if they package 21, 29 and 31 to move up to the top 6?

Is that really a franking show on TV?

what if they package 21, 29 and 31 to move up to the top 6?
- homiedclown

Yes...we need elite prospects.. we have enough average picks coming up.

Imagine this........

Yotes and Sabres get together to offer Edmonton:

3rd pick in this draft (Oilers need Defense - Hannifan)

Sabres 21st pick this year

Coyotes 1st round pick in 2016

Both Sabres and Coyotes throw in a player (Likely Zadarov for BUF and Coyotes a similar caliper player)

Edmonton loads up and secures D spots they desperately need
Sabres get arguably best player in draft
Coyotes get Eichel (fingers crossed he is not better than McDavid!)

Everyone is a winner?!

what if they package 21, 29 and 31 to move up to the top 6?
- homiedclown

Yes without a question, though I'm not sure you'd find a trade partner

what if they package 21, 29 and 31 to move up to the top 6?
- homiedclown

They don't have 29 & are unlikely to get it.

They don't have 29 & are unlikely to get it.
- haymac

Well there goes my Saturday....jurk

Imagine this........

Yotes and Sabres get together to offer Edmonton:

3rd pick in this draft (Oilers need Defense - Hannifan)

Sabres 21st pick this year

Coyotes 1st round pick in 2016

Both Sabres and Coyotes throw in a player (Likely Zadarov for BUF and Coyotes a similar caliper player)

Edmonton loads up and secures D spots they desperately need
Sabres get arguably best player in draft
Coyotes get Eichel (fingers crossed he is not better than McDavid!)

Everyone is a winner?!
- flyboy716

this is why people shouldn't drink alcohol in the morning, I'll take my chances on Eichel being better than McDavid for us for the Sabres thank you very much

IMO I thing Grigorenko will be fine in time. Yes, we royally screwed up his development, and he did have maturity issues. But, at this point I think both sides have started to mend fences and move forwards. The kid did take a big step last year in the AHL and is on the right path to success in the NHL. He has the skill and the size nobody is denying that. The real problem now is, does he have a spot in Buffalo with all the high quality centers we've accumulated, can he be moved and used as a sniper on the wing?

I think the best thing for both sides would be for him to go back to the AHL for one more year, but that does not look like its going to be an option. KHL might be the best move for a year or two as long as we hold his rights. Bur realistically he'll probably be traded at some point and that might be what's best for him. He can easily still become somebody's #2 center. New Jersey looks like a promising place for that to happen.

Trade wise with his value kind of at a low point I think a realistic trade value would be Grigerenko + #21 + 31 for the #6 pick. It would be a trade that may work well for both sides, we get the quality over quantity that we're looking for and New Jersey gets a high potential center who may not have much more development on his plate, plus they get to still pick in the first round and get the first pick in round two. The trade could fast track the rebuild for New Jersey if they nail the picks.

So Sharp.... Grigs and a 2nd round pick is the offer from Buffalo?
Murray must be deviating from the plan...

So Sharp.... Grigs and a 2nd round pick is the offer from Buffalo?
Murray must be deviating from the plan...
- jochfr

I don't think Chicago would do that as they would be unlikely to give him the time to play in the NHL and they would ultimately lose him when they send him to the minors. I would think it would have to be a team like Arizona, New Jersey, Toronto, who are looking to likely be as bad as possible and need to "develop" players.

EDIT:

If that is the offer, I would gladly agree to it from Buffalo's perspective.

So Sharp.... Grigs and a 2nd round pick is the offer from Buffalo?
Murray must be deviating from the plan...
- jochfr

Where you hear this?

Where you hear this?
- sbroads24

The hookers told him. Or maybe it was the blow telling his brain that the hookers told him.

Per NHL source, CHI currently asking for 1st rd pick, A-level prospect & top 6 forward on entry-level contract for Patrick Sharp

Pretty steep if you ask me..

That would be something like 21st pick Bailey or Baptiste top 6 on entry level??

We don't even really have that. Not top 6 in the eyes of a team like Chicago. Not including Reinhart obviously.

So talking to my cousin another good knowledgeable hockey guy we were talking about a what if. What would be the only way you would trade Girgensons.

We both came up with the same thing. In a package for Tarasenko.

That got us talking more. Would Girgensons 21st and next years first be enough?

Then we started talking about lineups.

Moulson Eichel Tarasenko
Kane Reinhart Ennis
Foligno Larrsson Gionta
Deslauriers McCormick Kaleta

Losing Girgensons would hurt a ton. But just for a discussion piece what would you guys say?

So talking to my cousin another good knowledgeable hockey guy we were talking about a what if. What would be the only way you would trade Girgensons.

We both came up with the same thing. In a package for Tarasenko.

That got us talking more. Would Girgensons 21st and next years first be enough?

Then we started talking about lineups.

Moulson Eichel Tarasenko
Kane Reinhart Ennis
Foligno Larrsson Gionta
Deslauriers McCormick Kaleta

Losing Girgensons would hurt a ton. But just for a discussion piece what would you guys say?
- Stripes77

I'd trade Girgensons for a few pieces but that trade wouldn't be enough to get Tarasenko.. Would likely cost

21st Girgensons and a guy like Baptiste or another one of our top three prospects.

Where you hear this?
- sbroads24

From me, why

So talking to my cousin another good knowledgeable hockey guy we were talking about a what if. What would be the only way you would trade Girgensons.

We both came up with the same thing. In a package for Tarasenko.

That got us talking more. Would Girgensons 21st and next years first be enough?

Then we started talking about lineups.

Moulson Eichel Tarasenko
Kane Reinhart Ennis
Foligno Larrsson Gionta
Deslauriers McCormick Kaleta

Losing Girgensons would hurt a ton. But just for a discussion piece what would you guys say?
- Stripes77

Not close imo. It's not an issue of value, blues are trying to win now so the picks don't really help them. Only way I could see them moving tarasenko is in a 1 for 1 to address a position of need.

I'd give the Nuks a 2nd for Lack and be done with it.