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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
Ohhhh yea he is still in the Q and posting better stats each year.

We took what Compher or Hurley instead of him wasn't it?

- JVince11


Lemieux I believe.

You're thinking the wrong draft.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:46 AM ET
Ohhhh yea he is still in the Q and posting better stats each year.

We took what Compher or Hurley instead of him wasn't it?

- JVince11

Lemieux
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:48 AM ET
Ohhhh yea he is still in the Q and posting better stats each year.

We took what Compher or Hurley instead of him wasn't it?

- JVince11


We took that Richard kid last year who I hated so much
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
Lemieux I believe.

You're thinking the wrong draft.

- HonkFortheGoose


ahhhh touche.

Lemieux posted 60 pts in the OHL and 41 goals... that is a weird stat line. wow.
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
Bob McKenzie told me Murray is " ready " and that's all he would say to me. I thought he was taller.
- SABRES 89


How big is his head, it looks massive on TV.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
Not saying I would bend over backward to have him here but I don't get why so many people are completely opposed to Patrick Sharp. When he stays healthy enough to play 70+ games he is always a 60-80 point kind of guy. He is 33 years old so maybe he won't be able to play that many games any more but still.

He has better stats than Hossa for the most part of his career besides one or two. Hossa does seem to have slightly better playoff stats but mostly due to more assists whereas Sharp is more goals.

I don't get it. I'd buyout or deal Hossa at age 36. Maybe just trade Sharp because he is younger and has more value with a better deal?

- JVince11

Hossa is one of the best two way players in the game... Its not all about points when you have guys like kane and toews
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
I had to leave room for nash and ror
- homiedclown


Nash isn't on Garth's wish list.

ROR is 1, Logan Couture is 4.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
Not ready imo
- gerbe75pts


I think he is everything Murray is looking for. I would package 21 and 51 to see if we could move into top 10 for him. I would even put him at the top of the prospect pile in front of Fasching Baptiste and Bailey
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:54 AM ET
Not saying I would bend over backward to have him here but I don't get why so many people are completely opposed to Patrick Sharp. When he stays healthy enough to play 70+ games he is always a 60-80 point kind of guy. He is 33 years old so maybe he won't be able to play that many games any more but still.

He has better stats than Hossa for the most part of his career besides one or two. Hossa does seem to have slightly better playoff stats but mostly due to more assists whereas Sharp is more goals.

I don't get it. I'd buyout or deal Hossa at age 36. Maybe just trade Sharp because he is younger and has more value with a better deal?

- JVince11


Instead of explaining why again, just read this.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...t_id=69503&blogger_id=177
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:55 AM ET
Nash isn't on Garth's wish list.

ROR is 1, Logan Couture is 4.

- TheSabresTaco


There was a time LONG LONG ago... that everything that Garth wrote became a babbling and misspelled joke. This is another one of those moments.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:55 AM ET
I think he is everything Murray is looking for. I would package 21 and 51 to see if we could move into top 10 for him. I would even put him at the top of the prospect pile in front of Fasching Baptiste and Bailey
- Der Kaiser



I just can't see any team giving up a top 10 pick for 21 and 51. The value doesn't even come close to matching. If you're going to ask a team to move down a minimum of 11 spots, you're going to have to give them something special in return.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
Instead of explaining why again, just read this.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...t_id=69503&blogger_id=177

- TheSabresTaco



The flaw in this argument is that the Sabres don't have another winger anywhere near the caliber of Kunitz.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:57 AM ET
There was a time LONG LONG ago... that everything that Garth wrote became a babbling and misspelled joke. This is another one of those moments.
- JVince11


Patrick Sharp is 2. He's 2 spots ahead of Logan Couture. Cause that makes a lot of (frank)ing sense. I had to swig on some pepto just to keep from keeling over.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:57 AM ET
The flaw in this argument is that the Sabres don't have another winger anywhere near the caliber of Kunitz.
- buffalofan19


Let me fix that flaw by saying we don't need neither Kunitz or Sharp. I wasn't really pointing out the comparison, it was more about Sharp's declining play, plus age equals... no.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
Let me fix that flaw by saying we don't need neither Kunitz or Sharp.
- TheSabresTaco



They do, however, need a winger of that caliber, at a minimum.

The brevity of his contract far, far outweighs the negative of his age.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
I think he is everything Murray is looking for. I would package 21 and 51 to see if we could move into top 10 for him. I would even put him at the top of the prospect pile in front of Fasching Baptiste and Bailey
- Der Kaiser


Yeah, moving up 11 spots in this draft would cost 21, 31, 51, and Grigorenko.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
They do, however, need a winger of that caliber, at a minimum.
- buffalofan19


Eventually, who's not declining.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
Yeah, moving up 11 spots in this draft would cost 21, 31, 51, and Grigorenko.
- sskkoo1


At the end of the day, I don't see us having 51 anymore. 21, 31 and a propect or young roster player could most definitely get us into the top 10.. or close to it. 31 is widely seen as another 1st round pick caliber.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
I wouldn't mind giving a few dimes to Soderberg. Would be a nice piece to have at 3C if Girgensons is pushed back to winger if we can't get one via trade or UFA. I like Larsson at winger more any way.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
I just can't see any team giving up a top 10 pick for 21 and 51. The value doesn't even come close to matching. If you're going to ask a team to move down a minimum of 11 spots, you're going to have to give them something special in return.
- buffalofan19


As much as I'd like to see Grigo succeed here, I'd be willing to let him go for Timo. I don't know if he's the "something special" you have in mind.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
As much as I'd like to see Grigo succeed here, I'd be willing to let him go for Timo. I don't know if he's the "something special" you have in mind.
- Der Kaiser



I'd make that move in a second. It could work with some GM's considering he does have first round talent. However, I wouldn't hold my breath either.

You're right, though. Assuming Eichel and Reinhart turn out as good as we all hope they do, Grigorenko is the odd man out.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
I wouldn't mind giving a few dimes to Soderberg. Would be a nice piece to have at 3C if Girgensons is pushed back to winger if we can't get one via trade or UFA. I like Larsson at winger more any way.
- JVince11


I mentioned him the other day. Nobody seemed to really have much to say about it though.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
I'd make that move in a second. It could work with some GM's considering he does have first round talent. However, I wouldn't hold my breath either.

You're right, though. Assuming Eichel and Reinhart turn out as good as we all hope they do, Grigorenko is the odd man out.

- buffalofan19


Grigo is the odd man out at center. Didn't they play him at winger when he came up late last year and he finally looked somewhat comfortable. He had like 6 points in the final 15 games I thought.

if worst comes to worst...

Kane - Eichel - Ennis
Moulson - Reinhart - Grigo
Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta
Deslauriers - McM - Kaleta
Hodgson

isn't AWFUL... for a young team.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
I mentioned him the other day. Nobody seemed to really have much to say about it though.
- HonkFortheGoose


he is a 29 year old 2 way center who is big bodied. I think he'd be a great 3C. I think he had like 13 goals and 30 points for Boston last year.


Problem is... he is actually regarded as one of the best UFAs on the market at C. Someone is gonna throw 2C money at him like we did with Leino.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
I'd make that move in a second. It could work with some GM's considering he does have first round talent. However, I wouldn't hold my breath either.

You're right, though. Assuming Eichel and Reinhart turn out as good as we all hope they do, Grigorenko is the odd man out.

- buffalofan19


To quote a frequent poster on this site, "we don't need Eichel and Reinhart to be GOOD, we need them to be GREAT."

And while I am confident Grigorenko can be good on the wing, I have more confidence that Meier will be GREAT there.
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