Which is why I'm one of the few who is still on board with the Hartnell trade. Yes, the short term pain is excruciating, but Hartnell wasnt the difference between missing the playoffs and winning the Cup.
- Doc_Sarcasm

If that's all you look at I can see why you could hop on board. If you think the Flyers could have gotten more for Hartnell then you would be like me, not okay with it.

It's not about the fact that they traded Hartnell, it was the return. It was pathetic the day they made it and it remains one of the more pathetic deals the Flyers have made in the last 10 yrs. The Blue Jackets were rife with prospects and picks. Get me some of those, don't give me cap relief in three seasons.

Not a prayer in my opinion.
- MJL

Alright, let's say the deal came with the Flyers giving up more on top of Schenn, I could also see Brandon Saad's play falling off the face of the earth because of his new landing spot.

So we can get a similar trade return?
- ob18

Nope, Because Saad's riding his rep with Chicago. But he's not a superstar yet.

Nope, Because Saad's riding his rep with Chicago. But he's not a superstar yet.
- Jsaquella

- ob18

Accept it

Hands down. All they got for Ladd was Ivan Vishnevskiy and a 2nd rounder.
- Jsaquella

And Ladd had 2 cups already by that point.

If that's all you look at I can see why you could hop on board. If you think the Flyers could have gotten more for Hartnell then you would be like me, not okay with it.

It's not about the fact that they traded Hartnell, it was the return. It was pathetic the day they made it and it remains one of the more pathetic deals the Flyers have made in the last 10 yrs. The Blue Jackets were rife with prospects and picks. Get me some of those, don't give me cap relief in three season.
- mayorofangrytown

Umberger and his bionic hip will score 30-goals -- book it.

And Ladd had 2 cups already by that point.
- BINGO!

Yep. Strangely, he failed to carry Atlanta or winnipeg the same way he hoisted the Canes and Hawks to glory

Umberger and his bionic hip will score 30-goals -- book it.
- Tomahawk

If he doesn't score 30 points then buy him out, and enjoy $3m in extra cap space in 16-17 and 17-18.

Umberger and his bionic hip will score 30-goals -- book it.
- Tomahawk

Umberger was one of my favoutire players when he was here. If he had come back and played well I'd still be female doging about the Hartnell move.

I'll never get it anymore than selling low on JVR. It's all water under the bridge now.

Brandon Saad, elite winger, had 5 more points than Brayden Schenn last season.
- Jsaquella

But we both know that's not the whole story -- Saad's a two-way player who is a year younger than Schenn

I don't want to tear Schenn down, but no one here would trade Saad for Schenn, straight up, if we had Saad

But we both know that's not the whole story -- Saad's a two-way player who is a year younger than Schenn

I don't want to tear Schenn down, but no one here would trade Saad for Schenn, straight up, if we had Saad
- AllInForFlyers

Your last point doesn't fit the narrative!


The same people who said that they were only 5 points apart, would tell you you're foolish if Saad was on the team we root for, and you suggested trading him for Schenn.

I think Dano and Anisimov will be good in Chicago. Though I expect Saad will end up as the best player in the deal

But we both know that's not the whole story -- Saad's a two-way player who is a year younger than Schenn

I don't want to tear Schenn down, but no one here would trade Saad for Schenn, straight up, if we had Saad
- AllInForFlyers

You could argue that Schenn is poorly used at times. Is he a center or a winger?

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If that's all you look at I can see why you could hop on board. If you think the Flyers could have gotten more for Hartnell then you would be like me, not okay with it.

It's not about the fact that they traded Hartnell, it was the return. It was pathetic the day they made it and it remains one of the more pathetic deals the Flyers have made in the last 10 yrs. The Blue Jackets were rife with prospects and picks. Get me some of those, don't give me cap relief in three seasons.
- mayorofangrytown

Hartnell should have been worth more, but whether or not Hextall actually could have gotten more... I'm not sure. Were there ever any rumors of better offers out there?

You could argue that Schenn is poorly used at times. Is he a center or a winger?
- SuperSchennBros

I think Schenn needs to decide that.

But we both know that's not the whole story -- Saad's a two-way player who is a year younger than Schenn

I don't want to tear Schenn down, but no one here would trade Saad for Schenn, straight up, if we had Saad
- AllInForFlyers

It's not the whole story, but all I'm saying is, the Hawks saw what his salary demands were, decided that in their structure that he was not worth the demands, and made a trade. Saad is an outstanding young player. His point totals to date don't scream superstar and he's also been playing mostly with guys named Toews or Kane.

They landed a good, proven middle six NHL center and a top forward prospect, as well as two good mid-tier prospects and a 4th rounder, rather than risk an offer sheet where another team would have dictated the salary they paid to Saad, or where the CBA would have determined the compensation they received for him

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- Winning

Dude, you should apply to be the new Eklund. You're faster on the re-post for sure.

Your last point doesn't fit the narrative!


The same people who said that they were only 5 points apart, would tell you you're foolish if Saad was on the team we root for, and you suggested trading him for Schenn.
- MJL

Slight exaggeration there considering if you read his other posts, you'd know that isn't true

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YEEEESSSSSS!!!! OH GOOOODDDD!!!!!!!! YESSSS!!!!!!!! YESSS!!!!!!!!

YEEEESSSSSS!!!! OH GOOOODDDD!!!!!!!! YESSSS!!!!!!!! YESSS!!!!!!!!
- SuperSchennBros

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- Winning

Stop laughing, you!

I wanted this to happen!

YEEEESSSSSS!!!! OH GOOOODDDD!!!!!!!! YESSSS!!!!!!!! YESSS!!!!!!!!
- SuperSchennBros

Slight exaggeration there considering if you read his other posts, you'd know that isn't true
- five4fighting10

I disagree, it's very true, and isn't an exaggeration at all.