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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
Firefox crashed- duplicate sorry
- Steelmanpa


No worries

As to your point, I do think there is something to being in an organization/on a team that is expecting to win, as opposed to hoping you won't lose

I have no statistics, but I think once you become a perennial loser, it is really difficult to break out of that cycle

You can't win every year, but I do think you can lose many, many years if you are not careful in demanding the proper effort and excellence
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
If I was a team that really matters anted Semin, I would have called Carolina and offered them a 7th pick if they retain 2.5M of his salary.
- nails




Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:12 PM ET
@grantmccagg: 1/ Had a candid chat with a Flyers' scout today...he thinks Provorov can step into the lineup and be one of Philly's best dmen this yr.

Hey MoAT & Crims, hope this makes you happy
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:12 PM ET
One big thing that might be underrated in terms of Gagner on the PP, he can set up along the LW wall like Giroux and QB Avery effectively just because he's a righty shot. A lefty on that wall has fewer easy options, where everything flows easier for a righty.

Gagner was also a very effective ES producer for Arizona

- Jsaquella


I just don't think there was anything better in FA -- it's a really lackluster group this year, and if Gagner gets 40-ish points, I'm not entirely certainly that won't be the most, or close to the most, any of these FAs get
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:13 PM ET
@grantmccagg: 1/ Had a candid chat with a Flyers' scout today...he thinks Provorov can step into the lineup and be one of Philly's best dmen this yr.

Hey MoAT & Crims, hope this makes you happy

- Jsaquella


They will raise hell when he's sent down
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:13 PM ET
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:13 PM ET
@grantmccagg: 1/ Had a candid chat with a Flyers' scout today...he thinks Provorov can step into the lineup and be one of Philly's best dmen this yr.

Hey MoAT & Crims, hope this makes you happy

- Jsaquella



Don't let OB18 see this.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:14 PM ET

- MBFlyerfan

U disagree?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:17 PM ET
@grantmccagg: 1/ Had a candid chat with a Flyers' scout today...he thinks Provorov can step into the lineup and be one of Philly's best dmen this yr.

Hey MoAT & Crims, hope this makes you happy

- Jsaquella


The guy I saw walking to the stage on draft night was a full-grown man

Some kids you send back because they are clearly not physically ready. But Provorov, and Konechny too, looked absolutely freaking ripped

Again: I've not seen any of these kids play a single shift. Not one

But I guess I'd be stunned if Provorov gets rag-dolled out there -- that kid looks ready to rock, physically
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:22 PM ET
U disagree?
- nails



Trading the 7th pick for Semins corpse? Damn right I disagree.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:24 PM ET

- ggunky


Better one.

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:24 PM ET
One big thing that might be underrated in terms of Gagner on the PP, he can set up along the LW wall like Giroux and QB Avery effectively just because he's a righty shot. A lefty on that wall has fewer easy options, where everything flows easier for a righty.

Gagner was also a very effective ES producer for Arizona

- Jsaquella

nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:27 PM ET
Trading the 7th pick for Semins corpse? Damn right I disagree.
- MBFlyerfan

Semin was just an example

Edit
But Semin on a line with G and Jake has potential
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:30 PM ET
Semin was just an example

Edit
But Semin on a line with G and Jake has potential

- nails



Semin is cooked.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:31 PM ET
Semin was just an example

Edit
But Semin on a line with G and Jake has potential

- nails


I completely agree
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:31 PM ET
Crosby with Semin on his wing?
No surprise there

- nails

I figure, why chase Kessel and give up assets. Plus... RUTHERFORD.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:31 PM ET
One big thing that might be underrated in terms of Gagner on the PP, he can set up along the LW wall like Giroux and QB Avery effectively just because he's a righty shot. A lefty on that wall has fewer easy options, where everything flows easier for a righty.

Gagner was also a very effective ES producer for Arizona

- Jsaquella

Playmaker if I'm not mistaken? Maybe can play catch with Del Zotto and hopefully Couturier on the right side where Voracek normally is?
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:31 PM ET


hahahaha funny ass video. pronger was the man.

- benjichronic


"I'm day to day with hurt feelings."
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:32 PM ET
@grantmccagg: 1/ Had a candid chat with a Flyers' scout today...he thinks Provorov can step into the lineup and be one of Philly's best dmen this yr.

Hey MoAT & Crims, hope this makes you happy

- Jsaquella

Yes, yes it does.

Is that a warm welcoming smile I feel emanating from a Comcast Van somewhere near the Jersey coast? I think it is...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:33 PM ET
They will raise hell when he's sent down
- PhillySportsGuy

Nope. I'll raise hell if Morin is sent down.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:33 PM ET
I figure, why chase Kessel and give up assets. Plus... RUTHERFORD.
- mayorofangrytown


I would think Rutherford would stay away after the headache he was in Carolina. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
I just don't think there was anything better in FA -- it's a really lackluster group this year, and if Gagner gets 40-ish points, I'm not entirely certainly that won't be the most, or close to the most, any of these FAs get
- AllInForFlyers


I'm still kind of holding out hope for Chris Stewart. I'm sure many of you aren't high on him and there might not even be a real fit but I like the guy. Toughness, gritty, might help the second unit on the PP.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
Trading the 7th pick for Semins corpse? Damn right I disagree.
- MBFlyerfan

I think he meant "a 7th" not "the 7th"
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:36 PM ET
I think he meant "a 7th" not "the 7th"
- mayorofangrytown



I hope so.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:36 PM ET
I would think Rutherford would stay away after the headache he was in Carolina. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome
- nonpoint22

What makes you think he believes he made a mistake signing that contract? Have you seen what he's done in the Pitt? He's a gift.

Besides, he can now get Semin on a 1yr Ehrhoff contract. He loves those too.
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