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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:33 AM ET
I don't believe that. I beleive the Flyers feel that Laughton has offensive upside, and could be a 2nd line center caliber player in this league, along with his strong overall game. I feel if they felt he would be a 3rd line checking center, they would not have used a first round pick on him. Flyers draft BPA, not where they feel a player will fit in on the current lineup.
- MJL



I think they thought he was BPA, and I think they saw a chance to fill a need, strengthen a position, and draft BPA all in one.

It seems you are minimizing the importance of a shut down center (not third line center), we can agree to disagree.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:35 AM ET
Does Vinny 2m kick in at 12 ?
- Winning

Midnight. He has to deposit the check and make sure the funds clear before he flips anyone off.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:35 AM ET
Does he ever pass coots or giroux ? No? Than he's not necessary part the future.
- Tfaehner


Giroux, ofc not.

But Coots, yeah. From what I've seen of his assertive attacking style in the ozone, I'd say he has a fair chance of passing up Coots at some point for that 2C/2nd line slot.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:36 AM ET
I would not include Laughton in a deal for Byfuglien. Do you think the Flyers drafted Laughton with a first round pick thinking he would only be a 3rd line center in the league?
- MJL


Back to the original question. No, I do not think the Flyers drafted him to only be a 3rd line center. When he was drafted there were comparisons of Mike Richards, so I expect the Flyers thought he'd be of that caliper of a player. I don't think he has reached those expectations nor do I think he will reach them. Not saying he is a bad player, but I don't see him playing any more minutes than a 3rd line center.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:36 AM ET
And for the next thrilling argument topic: Keynesian Economics vs Supply Side Economics.

Pros and Cons, which do you favor, and would Homer be able to screw up either system if he was still GM of the Flyers?

Go!
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:37 AM ET
tbo... if hexy can get a backup goalie for 2 years and just move 1 or 2 bad contracts today id be absolutely estatic
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:37 AM ET
And for the next thrilling argument topic: Keynesian Economics vs Supply Side Economics.

Pros and Cons, which do you favor, and would Homer be able to screw up either system if he was still GM of the Flyers?

Go!

- wolfhounds


Yes.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:37 AM ET
Giroux, ofc not.

But Coots, yeah. From what I've seen of his assertive attacking style in the ozone, I'd say he has a fair chance of passing up Coots at some point for that 2C/2nd line slot.

- Tomahawk


Honestly, I'm not sure that either one has what it takes to be a 2nd line center on a contending team.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:38 AM ET
And for the next thrilling argument topic: Keynesian Economics vs Supply Side Economics.

Pros and Cons, which do you favor, and would Homer be able to screw up either system if he was still GM of the Flyers?

Go!

- wolfhounds


I like turtles
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
I like turtles
- BiggE


You mad man.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
Back to the original question. No, I do not think the Flyers drafted him to only be a 3rd line center. When he was drafted there were comparisons of Mike Richards, so I expect the Flyers thought he'd be of that caliper of a player. I don't think he has reached those expectations nor do I think he will reach them. Not saying he is a bad player, but I don't see him playing any more minutes than a 3rd line center.
- Streit2ThePoint



I read comparisons to John Madden. Either way, a shut down center, is different in my estimation that a generic third line center designation.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
And for the next thrilling argument topic: Keynesian Economics vs Supply Side Economics.

Pros and Cons, which do you favor, and would Homer be able to screw up either system if he was still GM of the Flyers?

Go!

- wolfhounds

Homer will give a 2nd rounder to change the subject
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:40 AM ET
Honestly, I'm not sure that either one has what it takes to be a 2nd line center on a contending team.
- BiggE


I don't have confidence that either of them will be in that upper-echelon Brind'Amour class of 2C... but I could see either/both becoming serviceable ones w/ the right linemates.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:40 AM ET
Maybe Holmgren did but maybe Hextall thinks he is just a 3rd line center and expendable.
- J35Bacher



Maybe he does, who knows. One method of building a team is to trade from excess to shore up a weaker area. The Flyers have a lot of young depth at center. If Laughton is traded, it doesn't neccessarily mean that they don't think highly of him.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 1 @ 10:41 AM ET
I don't have confidence that either of them will be in that upper-echelon Brind'Amour class of 2C... but I could see either/both becoming serviceable ones w/ the right linemates.
- Tomahawk


Agreed. I'd just like, if possible, a stronger 2C by the time they are a contender.

Edit: Clarke/Macleish, Sakic/Forsberg, Yzerman/Federov, Datsyuk/Zetterberg

That's the kind of 1-2 punch I want up the middle.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
Honestly, I'm not sure that either one has what it takes to be a 2nd line center on a contending team.
- BiggE

Line 1 G
Line 3a Coots
Line 3b Laughts

who cares if it results in a cup

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
Agreed. I'd just like, if possible, a stronger 2C by the time they are a contender.
- BiggE


Maybe... it's this guy?

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
I don't have confidence that either of them will be in that upper-echelon Brind'Amour class of 2C... but I could see either/both becoming serviceable ones w/ the right linemates.
- Tomahawk


I wouldn't mind seeing how Laughton handles LW
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
I think they thought he was BPA, and I think they saw a chance to fill a need, strengthen a position, and draft BPA all in one.

It seems you are minimizing the importance of a shut down center (not third line center), we can agree to disagree.

- MBFlyerfan



My comments don't have anything to do with minimizing the importance of a shut down center, in fact on the last couple of pages I've twice posted that you need 3-4 quality lines to compete in today's NHL. My comments were on Laughton as an individual player, and how I think the Flyers see him and what potential he has.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
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Jul 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
Maybe... it's this guy?


- Tomahawk


Could well be.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
I don't have confidence that either of them will be in that upper-echelon Brind'Amour class of 2C... but I could see either/both becoming serviceable ones w/ the right linemates.
- Tomahawk



Brind'Amour in his prime was really a first line center caliber player.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
I wouldn't mind seeing how Laughton handles LW
- PhillySportsGuy


I wouldn't mind them trying that.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Could well be.
- BiggE


Or this guy:



Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
I wouldn't mind seeing how Laughton handles LW
- PhillySportsGuy

good chance we may see this with the current line up

maybe SG plays LW a bit too this year
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
Maybe he does, who knows. One method of building a team is to trade from excess to shore up a weaker area. The Flyers have a lot of young depth at center. If Laughton is traded, it doesn't neccessarily mean that they don't think highly of him.
- MJL



And that could go for a lot of players. Guys might have been viewed one way by Holmgren but Hextall might have a different feeling on them. That's why I think there could be a move where we look and might be surprised. Not Giroux or Voracek but maybe Simmonds, Read, Streit and even Mason
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