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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:54 AM ET
just a thought.... with cal getting Hamilton signed, does Giordano become availiable? supposedly he wants 8yrs/72mil. maybe too rich for cal
- SMS4016

Isn't he 31 or 32 yo already?

8 years, woof
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:54 AM ET
I don't think Kane is any better a playmaker than Voracek, but he is a much better finisher, IMO.
- BiggE


Maybe not just a playmaker, but a possession-driver. He's not Forsberg (best stickhandler I've ever seen) but when that guy gets the puck, he can create offense out of thin air, even when he's matched against Byfuglien.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
off topic... was it you that recommended reading Robin Hobbs?
if so thanks, love the Fitz Chivalry and the Fool books, summer entertainment at it's finest

- Marc D


That wasn't me, but I'll gladly take the credit.

Edit: I've recommended Robert E. Howard to many people.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
Maybe not just a playmaker, but a possession-driver. He's not Forsberg (best stickhandler I've ever seen) but when that guy gets the puck, he can create offense out of thin air, even when he's matched against Byfuglien.
- jmatchett383


No doubt. Damn now I think I need to do a top 10 playmakers list.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
Scratch Kari Ramo as possible Flyer back up, re-signed in Calgary
- Jsaquella

1 yr 3.8 M

whoa
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
Was anyone able to listen in on Saad's conference call?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
No doubt. Damn now I think I need to do a top 10 playmakers list.
- BiggE


Just make sure that Rinaldo and Carcillo crack the top-10.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
I did read the whole post, but couldn't fathom even thinking about trading Mason, so the rest didn't stick out.
- ThirdEye



I could.

I think Gibson in Anaheim will be a star. With them having Andersen and Kadhobin now I would see what it takes to get him.

Then I would flip Mason to a team that needs goaltending. Flip Mason, MacDonald and Laughton to Toronto for Phaneuf and something.

The big thing I was trying to point out though is that maybe Hextall sees a different value in certain players since they weren't guys he acquired or drafted.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
That wasn't me, but I'll gladly take the credit.

Edit: I've recommended Robert E. Howard to many people.

- jmatchett383

*googles Robert Howard*
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
Was anyone able to listen in on Saad's conference call?
- JFlyers00


"The Black Hawk, he no want to pay. I say, Mr. Black Hawk, you pay and he say no. So I say to Mr. Black Hawk, you do trades, or I make pooh pooh face. So he do make trades, I wins."
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
I could.

I think Gibson in Anaheim will be a star. With them having Andersen and Kadhobin now I would see what it takes to get him.

Then I would flip Mason to a team that needs goaltending. Flip Mason, MacDonald and Laughton to Toronto for Phaneuf and something.

- J35Bacher


They're not trading Gibson.

http://pucksofafeather.co...ust-listen-to-bob-murray/

And the Flyers aren't trading Mason. Good plan otherwise.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
I could.

I think Gibson in Anaheim will be a star. With them having Andersen and Kadhobin now I would see what it takes to get him.

Then I would flip Mason to a team that needs goaltending. Flip Mason, MacDonald and Laughton to Toronto for Phaneuf and something.

- J35Bacher


I'd love to get American Hero Gibson. Am very high on him. Price would probably be too high, though.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
And for the next thrilling argument topic: Keynesian Economics vs Supply Side Economics.

Pros and Cons, which do you favor, and would Homer be able to screw up either system if he was still GM of the Flyers?

Go!

- wolfhounds




Consumers vs. Producers, which is more important?

ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
I could.

I think Gibson in Anaheim will be a star. With them having Andersen and Kadhobin now I would see what it takes to get him.

Then I would flip Mason to a team that needs goaltending. Flip Mason, MacDonald and Laughton to Toronto for Phaneuf and something.

- J35Bacher


I'm beginning to question your sanity. You want to give up Steve Mason, the first high quality goaltender we've had in over a decade? Khudobin would be our starter??
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
off topic... was it you that recommended reading Robin Hobbs?
if so thanks, love the Fitz Chivalry and the Fool books, summer entertainment at it's finest

- Marc D

Hey Marc, I think I recommended them. Glad you enjoyed them!
Edit: if you haven't read Patrick Rothfuss "the Name of the wind" also well worth it. Much shorter series which will leave you wanting more but well worth it.
If you want a change to excellent Sci Fi I also recommend the Vorkosigan series by Lois McMaster Bujold. So fun to read!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
I'm beginning to question your sanity. You want to give up Steve Mason, the first high quality goaltender we've had in over a decade? Khudobin would be our starter??
- ThirdEye


No, he wanted Gibson. But I agree. But, a 1-2 punch of Mason/Gibson would be nice.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
I'd deal him. 31-yo and his value is probably never going to be higher. Hamilton in hand, young team, etc.
- Tomahawk


JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
"The Black Hawk, he no want to pay. I say, Mr. Black Hawk, you pay and he say no. So I say to Mr. Black Hawk, you do trades, or I make pooh pooh face. So he do make trades, I wins."
- jmatchett383


Its been reported that Saad is very unhappy with the trade. Speculation that there was a disconnect with his agent. Winning was more important than dollars for him.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
I'm beginning to question your sanity. You want to give up Steve Mason, the first high quality goaltender we've had in over a decade? Khudobin would be our starter??
- ThirdEye



I am beginning to question your reading skills. I said Gibson is my target from Anaheim
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:00 AM ET

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 14s15 seconds ago

I think it's down to Philly or Edmonton for Neuvirth
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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:01 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 14s15 seconds ago

I think it's down to Philly or Edmonton for Neuvirth
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- Winning


Be nice to land him; he's a clear upgrade over Razor, who simply ran out of time
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:01 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 14s15 seconds ago

I think it's down to Philly or Edmonton for Neuvirth
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- Winning


If the offers are equal, I like our chances
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:02 AM ET
Be nice to land him; he's a clear upgrade over Razor, who simply ran out of time
- AllInForFlyers


and hips
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:02 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 14s15 seconds ago

I think it's down to Philly or Edmonton for Neuvirth
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- Winning



If he wants playing time he probably will take Edmonton. I know they have Talbot but if he struggles at all Neuvirth would get a chance to play more.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:03 AM ET
Coots is likely Handzus, underrated 40ish points, stellar D.
- Tomahawk


I think coots will become more of a 20g 30a kind of player. While still playing great d. He's still developing. The kid is my age. Thank god no one is giving up on me this quick
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