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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:52 PM ET
fixed that for you
- ob18

It was a Freudian slip
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:53 PM ET
Drafting for need in the 76ers situation would be impossible. They need everything. They also need 2 of these top picks to turn into stars.
- jstross


He knows nothing of the NBA, but thinks he has the answers to building the Sixers. Don't even bother
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:53 PM ET
Drafting for need in the 76ers situation would be impossible. They need everything. They also need 2 of these top picks to turn into stars.
- jstross


You're right, they do need everything. So far Hinkie has just collected a bunch of players, and hasn't put any semblance of an actual team in place. There is an equal chance of his plan being a complete bust as there is of becoming a top team.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:54 PM ET

- mayorofangrytown

c'mon i know how much u loved primeau
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:54 PM ET
Going to be tough to get top end FAs for a while until they are more legit.
- jstross


Possibly next year because they'll have the money to sign two max players along with having the young supporting cast already
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:54 PM ET
Here's the thing: If it's true an offer sheet was out there, and you wanted roster players back, then maybe that's the best you could get with less than a day until FA starts

But at the same time, I don't know that they managed this very well -- they had to know what Saad was looking for, they were just at the draft last week, and they should've tried a little harder to move 34-year-old Patrick Sharp than betting on Marko Dano

That's just how I see that one -- if you're gonna play with fire like this with those high-end salaries, then you'd better be ready to move old players and not be Richarding around

- AllInForFlyers




Remember the rumors of an offer sheet for Hamilton and a 7M salary request? What did he sign for in Calgary?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 30 @ 5:55 PM ET
Getting a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd would've been a better deal than what they got from Columbus.
- MJL


I'm not so sure. Dano seems like a really good player.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:55 PM ET
You're right, they do need everything. So far Hinkie has just collected a bunch of players, and hasn't put any semblance of an actual team in place. There is an equal chance of his plan being a complete bust as there is of becoming a top team.
- MJL


Is working him winning a title or him just making them a contender?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:56 PM ET
I'm not so sure. Dano seems like a really good player.
- Feanor


He better get a lot better for this deal to even make sense. He's the key.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:57 PM ET
Here's the thing: If it's true an offer sheet was out there, and you wanted roster players back, then maybe that's the best you could get with less than a day until FA starts

But at the same time, I don't know that they managed this very well -- they had to know what Saad was looking for, they were just at the draft last week, and they should've tried a little harder to move 34-year-old Patrick Sharp than betting on Marko Dano

That's just how I see that one -- if you're gonna play with fire like this with those high-end salaries, then you'd better be ready to move old players and not be Richarding around

- AllInForFlyers


Perhaps they did try to move Sharp and found no takers. He's got a few years left and is getting older.

It's not a great deal, it's a risky one. Dano could be a fantastic player, and soon. He was really good for the Jackets in the second half and just turned 20. Pop him on a line with Toew or Kane and he could post huge numbers. But he's definitely not as established as Saad.

Anisimov is a solid middle six guy, who could be helpful to a good team. Morin was kind of stuck in a 4th line role with the Hawks before, but if there's more trades to come, they might find a spot for him. Tropp is a decent depth prospect.

I'd rather have Dano than a late first rounder in an average draft class, and they can probably flip the other pieces to land an equivalent to 2nd and 3rd rounders, if not more.
Tomahawk
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:57 PM ET
I'm not so sure. Dano seems like a really good player.
- Feanor


Dano's also got 2-years of development under his belt... a 1st in the 2016 draft is not gonna really fit into their likely window to win again.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:58 PM ET
Dano's also got 2-years of development under his belt... a 1st in the 2016 draft is not gonna really fit into their likely window to win again.
- Tomahawk


Teams, even championship teams need to keep the young talent rolling in.
Tomahawk
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:59 PM ET
Teams, even championship teams need to keep the young talent rolling in.
- MJL


Dano's 20.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 5:59 PM ET
Remember the rumors of an offer sheet for Hamilton and a 7M salary request? What did he sign for in Calgary?
- MJL


Exactly -- these teams aren't handling these situations correctly

Yeah, the Bruins were jacked up against the Cap. Everybody in the world knew that

But you flipped Lucic on Friday and for some reason, ate $2.75 million of his salary -- why? There were teams out there who you could've moved him to and saved the cash, then you'd have been ready for whatever offer sheet that would've came Hamilton's way

Paul Holmgren said it once: You can't be scared of offer sheets. These teams are panicking when there are plenty of moves to make instead of dealing first-line wingers and top pair defensemen
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 6:01 PM ET
Anaheim Ducks ‏@AnaheimDucks 27s27 seconds ago

BREAKING: #NHLDucks acquire Kevin Bieksa from the @VanCanucks for a 2016 second-round draft pick.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 6:01 PM ET
Bieksa to Anaheim for a 2nd rounder
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 30 @ 6:01 PM ET
Bieksa to Ducks for 2nd
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 30 @ 6:02 PM ET
(frank)ing winning
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:02 PM ET
Dano's 20.
- Tomahawk


Yes, I know that. My point was more about continuing to draft and add talent then the actual trade. If Dano doesn't excel, it's a really bad trade.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 6:02 PM ET
(frank)ing winning
- PhillySportsGuy

nails
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:02 PM ET
J

What is Butts' twitter handle?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
Perhaps they did try to move Sharp and found no takers. He's got a few years left and is getting older.

It's not a great deal, it's a risky one. Dano could be a fantastic player, and soon. He was really good for the Jackets in the second half and just turned 20. Pop him on a line with Toew or Kane and he could post huge numbers. But he's definitely not as established as Saad.

Anisimov is a solid middle six guy, who could be helpful to a good team. Morin was kind of stuck in a 4th line role with the Hawks before, but if there's more trades to come, they might find a spot for him. Tropp is a decent depth prospect.

I'd rather have Dano than a late first rounder in an average draft class, and they can probably flip the other pieces to land an equivalent to 2nd and 3rd rounders, if not more.

- Jsaquella


They may not even be looking to move Sharp... he's the third most marketable face off that team... his face is everywhere in Chicago.

They've been looking for a big-bodied 2C/3C for the longest time... AA seems to fit that bill... and upgrade over what they had in Handzus, if you will.

It's interesting that they went out of their way to get Morin back -- always thought he'd be a good player for them.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
Perhaps they did try to move Sharp and found no takers. He's got a few years left and is getting older.

It's not a great deal, it's a risky one. Dano could be a fantastic player, and soon. He was really good for the Jackets in the second half and just turned 20. Pop him on a line with Toew or Kane and he could post huge numbers. But he's definitely not as established as Saad.

Anisimov is a solid middle six guy, who could be helpful to a good team. Morin was kind of stuck in a 4th line role with the Hawks before, but if there's more trades to come, they might find a spot for him. Tropp is a decent depth prospect.

I'd rather have Dano than a late first rounder in an average draft class, and they can probably flip the other pieces to land an equivalent to 2nd and 3rd rounders, if not more.

- Jsaquella


I've been reading that they just won't move off their price, from MTL and/or Washington, and that's just crazy -- yeah, you don't want to get brutalized, but you're up against it.

Because of your management of the Cap -- Saad being restricted wasn't a surprise. They've been talking about moving the Sharps, Bickells and whoevers all season

Again: I've got nothing against Marko Dano. Nothing at all. Maybe he does exactly what you said he could do.

But I KNOW what Brandon Saad is -- he's your 22-year-old, two-time Cup winning 1LW!

He's got to go? Seriously? That's crazy
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
(frank)ing winning
- PhillySportsGuy


It's not a race.

But you lost.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
the the ducks got faster and tougher to play against
all while losing a guy who has potted double digit goals once?
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