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bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 3:49 PM ET
I love Shattenkirk, but I could see then dealing him if they get a big return. His value has to be sky high, especially with two more years cap friendly.

Personally I would rather they look at trading Petro over Shatty, but getting a big return would be nice.

- carcus


Thought about that as well (Petro) but I think over the long haul Pietrangelo has more upside and will eventually develop into a superior defenseman. Right now, I think Shatty is better.

Bottom line for me is they both are slotted into their proper places with the Blues, so I'd rather build around them as opposed to moving one of them.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
On more the sadder news front, Berglund's limited NTC/NMC kicks in today
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:51 PM ET
Thought about that as well (Petro) but I think over the long haul Pietrangelo has more upside and will eventually develop into a superior defenseman. Right now, I think Shatty is better.

Bottom line for me is they both are slotted into their proper places with the Blues, so I'd rather build around them as opposed to moving one of them.

- bcallaway


Petro was the best D in the playoffs by a wide margin. having said that, the bold is spot on.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:53 PM ET
Mike green to the dead wings for 3 yrs 6mm aav....
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 3:54 PM ET
Petro was the best D in the playoffs by a wide margin. having said that, the bold is spot on.
- stljam



I don't put much stock in one stretch of six games.....


bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
Mike green to the dead wings for 3 yrs 6mm aav....
- stljam


Overpaid and somewhat over-rated considering he's broken half the time.

sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
Mike green to the dead wings for 3 yrs 6mm aav....
- stljam


Yikes that is a lot of money for Mike Green
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:27 PM ET
Thought about that as well (Petro) but I think over the long haul Pietrangelo has more upside and will eventually develop into a superior defenseman. Right now, I think Shatty is better.

Bottom line for me is they both are slotted into their proper places with the Blues, so I'd rather build around them as opposed to moving one of them.

- bcallaway

Yes, I would rather keep them both as well.

But if they are looking to make some big changes and need to move a guy for a big return, one of those two makes a lot of sense in that scenerio.

I would hope that they are seriously looking to deal Backes. Lucic just got a pretty big return when you look at the deal the Bruins then flipped with the goalie. (drawing a blank on the name right now)
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:27 PM ET
I don't put much stock in one stretch of six games.....
- bcallaway




Don't remind me.....
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:29 PM ET
On more the sadder news front, Berglund's limited NTC/NMC kicks in today
- stljam

I don't think it is a big deal.

He can name like 6 teams he can't be traded to. I am sure there are at least few locations he really doesn't want to go to based on either the city or the team being bad.

So then the rest of the NHL would be fair game. If the Blues want to move Berglund, I don't think his NTC will keep them from doing it since it is so limited.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:40 PM ET
Now ek is rumoring Oshie to Washington

Kuznetsov

please

We will throw in a prospect or two not named Fabbri or Barbashev
bluenatic411
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 01.14.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:51 PM ET
Now ek is rumoring Oshie to Washington

Kuznetsov

please

We will throw in a prospect or two not named Fabbri or Barbashev

- sycsam


He also just tweeted that the price was "EXTREMELY HIGH" for Shatty and that he was "shocked" by one of the names the Blues asked for in return. Gotta think that was either RNH or Giroux.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:02 PM ET
He also just tweeted that the price was "EXTREMELY HIGH" for Shatty and that he was "shocked" by one of the names the Blues asked for in return. Gotta think that was either RNH or Giroux.
- bluenatic411


McDavid
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:05 PM ET
Oleksy signed by the Pens

Ridiculous potential upside for a guy that only cost $575k. Great risk, reward signing.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 1 @ 5:07 PM ET
Got to say, I am really happy about the Lehtera signing. Partially because I quickly became a fan and got one of the new road white jerseys with his name last November.

And I think him and Tarasenko are going to be very good together for a very long time with the Blues.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:08 PM ET
Got to say, I am really happy about the Lehtera signing. Partially because I quickly became a fan and got one of the new road white jerseys with his name last November.

And I think him and Tarasenko are going to be very good together for a very long time with the Blues.

- carcus


Earlier, I thought it was half a mil or more above market value but today's gm tilts will make me eat those words. Really good player to be certain and a great fit on the team.
Corey Harvey
St Louis Blues
Location: Washington, MO
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 1 @ 5:11 PM ET
Earlier, I thought it was half a mil or more above market value but today's gm tilts will make me eat those words. Really good player to be certain and a great fit on the team.
- stljam


I'm glad I am not alone in thinking most of these contracts are too high for many of the players receiving them. Not all, but many.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 1 @ 5:11 PM ET
Earlier, I thought it was half a mil or more above market value but today's gm tilts will make me eat those words. Really good player to be certain and a great fit on the team.
- stljam

The price goes up when you are no longer in RFA years.

This deal is going to look like a steal if him and Tarasenko continue to play together.

He was a point per game player early in the year with Tarasenko in his first year in the NHL. He hit a wall and slowed down, but going forward he is going to be able to produce at a high level with Tarasenko sniping the way he does.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:16 PM ET
The price goes up when you are no longer in RFA years.

This deal is going to look like a steal if him and Tarasenko continue to play together.

He was a point per game player early in the year with Tarasenko in his first year in the NHL. He hit a wall and slowed down, but going forward he is going to be able to produce at a high level with Tarasenko sniping the way he does.

- carcus


Most Russian, College, etc players hit that wall you are talking about. Expect Eichel to hit it next year. They are not used to the grind of the season and it stalls them at some point in the year. It also shows them that while they thought they were well conditioned, they weren't in good enough shape.
Trust In Jarmo
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: The Columbus Blue Jackets are next in line...
Joined: 07.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:11 PM ET

I would hope that they are seriously looking to deal Backes. Lucic just got a pretty big return when you look at the deal the Bruins then flipped with the goalie. (drawing a blank on the name right now)

- carcus


Martin Jones.

I will be honest Carcus. And I'm not just saying this as a Kings/Dean Lombardi/Darryl Sutter supporter....

The Sharks are desperate. They completely overpaid for Jones. The GMs job is on the line and it shows with this trade and the PAY jones got from San Jose.

Jones is a very good backup and solid at times in net. But the Sharks are a desperate team right now. Ben Scrivens looks like a better NHL goalie....in all honestly.
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