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Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Jul 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
Nash to the Sharks would be something...
Lash8
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
Wow. Ducks tossing money around.
- Hank3Henshaw


I guess letting Beleskey and Beauchemin walk freed up enough salary that they can throw a bunch of money into the Pacific Ocean and expect a Stanley Cup to wash ashore. Suckers.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
Eric Stephens ‏@icemancometh · 4m4 minutes ago
Kesler's new deal is huge. Six years, $41.25 million. ($6.875M AAV).

Makes Anisimov look like a bargain.

Kesler's last three years: -5, -15, -5; 105 points in 171 games.

Kesler turns 31 next month.

- KingB

First off this is not a 1:1 comparison. Kesler is a sure 2C, AA? Not so sure. Maybe he will be with the 'Hawks. Maybe not. If not? Then '16-'17 they're paying $4.55M for a 3C. A little "oops".

Second, Kesler's last three years were with a team full of douchebags (2yrs) and a team wanting to hit everything in site (1yr). Put him on the 'Hawks the last three years, with the leadership in that dressing room, and all of a sudden you have a much better 2C. No douche-baggery, no running around hitting every player in site (remember this? "we'll wear them down").
KingB
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.24.2011

Jul 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
And by the way, where would that have fit in our current cap hell if we had pulled the trigger on him last summer...and TT would be a Canuck!

Oh, and the ring we have and he doesnt.

- Cmonalready


Yep - AND the Hawks were the oldest team in the playoffs and 4th or 5th oldest in the NHL last year.

Bowman knows that the Hawks have to get younger. Removing Sharp, Oduya, Richards, Vermette, Rosy and another piece or two will help.
Maggie
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 03.06.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
You know I am getting tired of the one after another posts about how they Hawks had to pay Dallas with Stephan Johns.

Did you ever think that Johns may just be a big physical guy who loves to attack, but has still not developed a strong defensive side? Well, that is basically it.

Now if you want to say Bowman traded Johns to ensure landing Trevor Daley, as a cost cut, I have no problems with that assessment.

They will find a way out of Bickell without giving away a precious minor leaguer.

And while I am at it, I am really tired of the "Oh, NO!, Not Danault" posts, about his guaranteed future as an NHLer.
The kid scored THIRTEEN GOALS in the AHL last year, and SIX the year before.

You all have to loosen up on the reigns...

You don't need to buy in completely to my evaluations but don't get too hung up that the folks in charge actually have better evaluations and know what they are doing when trading kids away...

- wiz1901


Wiz, I usually agree with you but I really thing Johns is going to turn in to a top NHL defenseman if he avoids injury. He's not just physical but is an excellent puck mover. My fear is that SB has now lock himself into a top 4 defense and a third sucky group. Are we again going to wear out the top four?



BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:23 PM ET
No thanks to Rozi. His ankle was decimated. No way he's 100% coming back, and was super slow already. Look how a foot injury hurt Oduya for the first 1/2 of the season.
- JRoenick97


My thought process is you let TVR and Rundblah play the first half let Rozy recover and get in shape and ready for next year's playoffs, I hope TVR can stay healthy
KingB
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.24.2011

Jul 15 @ 12:24 PM ET
First off this is not a 1:1 comparison. Kesler is a sure 2C, AA? Not so sure. Maybe he will be with the 'Hawks. Maybe not. If not? Then '16-'17 they're paying $4.55M for a 3C. A little "oops".

Second, Kesler's last three years were with a team full of douchebags (2yrs) and a team wanting to hit everything in site (1yr). Put him on the 'Hawks the last three years, with the leadership in that dressing room, and all of a sudden you have a much better 2C. No douche-baggery, no running around hitting every player in site (remember this? "we'll wear them down").

- blackhawk24


That's your opinion. What if Kesler polluted the clubhouse, which is more likely than Kesler being reformed. Plus - If Kesler can't produce positive +/1 with the Ducks why would he with the Hawks?
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:24 PM ET
Everyone keep in mind...

Ryan Kesler scored 47 pts last year. Everyone has labeled him a "perfect fit"in ANA

Anisimov will be a massive bargain even scratching 50 pts playing with Kane

- FourFeathers773


Kesler will be really good in 2022 as that contract comes to an end.
KingB
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.24.2011

Jul 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
First off this is not a 1:1 comparison. Kesler is a sure 2C, AA? Not so sure. Maybe he will be with the 'Hawks. Maybe not. If not? Then '16-'17 they're paying $4.55M for a 3C. A little "oops".

Second, Kesler's last three years were with a team full of douchebags (2yrs) and a team wanting to hit everything in site (1yr). Put him on the 'Hawks the last three years, with the leadership in that dressing room, and all of a sudden you have a much better 2C. No douche-baggery, no running around hitting every player in site (remember this? "we'll wear them down").

- blackhawk24


Anisimov is 2.75 years younger than Kesler, who is also injury prone. Good luck with that contract in another year or two!
CanOCorn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The OP, IL
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
My thought process is you let TVR and Rundblah play the first half let Rozy recover and get in shape and ready for next year's playoffs, I hope TVR can stay healthy
- BetweenTheDots


Worked with Timonen!
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 15 @ 12:26 PM ET
Wiz, I usually agree with you but I really thing Johns is going to turn in to a top NHL defenseman if he avoids injury. He's not just physical but is an excellent puck mover. My fear is that SB has now lock himself into a top 4 defense and a third sucky group. Are we again going to wear out the top four?
- Maggie

If SB projected Johns to be a top NHL defenseman I'm sure he wouldn't have traded him. All $1.30 and a prospect ensures is I can get a medium coffee at Tim Hortons.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 15 @ 12:27 PM ET
@icemancometh: Kesler's new deal is huge. Six years, $41.25 million. ($6.875M AAV).

LOL, ryan kesler...

- FourFeathers773

Great! We have seven more seasons to listen to: "No way they can survive all the hits we're putting on them!"
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
Eric Stephens ‏@icemancometh · 4m4 minutes ago
Kesler's new deal is huge. Six years, $41.25 million. ($6.875M AAV).

Makes Anisimov look like a bargain.

Kesler's last three years: -5, -15, -5; 105 points in 171 games.

Kesler turns 31 next month.

- KingB


Soderberg contract 4.75aav
94pts in 161 games 29years old +4+10

So when you take a Keslers deal, and look at Soderbergs. Anisimov is a really good deal
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
If SB projected Johns to be a top NHL defenseman I'm sure he wouldn't have traded him. All $1.30 and a prospect ensures is I can get a medium coffee at Tim Hortons.
- paulr



That's a $1.30 CDN, right?
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jul 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
I guess letting Beleskey and Beauchemin walk freed up enough salary that they can throw a bunch of money into the Pacific Ocean and expect a Stanley Cup to wash ashore. Suckers.
- Lash8

Anaheim was at the bottom of the league in salary spent already.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
Eric Stephens ‏@icemancometh · 4m4 minutes ago
Kesler's new deal is huge. Six years, $41.25 million. ($6.875M AAV).

Makes Anisimov look like a bargain.

Kesler's last three years: -5, -15, -5; 105 points in 171 games.

Kesler turns 31 next month.

- KingB


Carl Soderberg's deal makes him look like a bargain too
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 15 @ 12:29 PM ET


That's a $1.30 CDN, right?

- blackhawk24

Yeah about $.27 U.S I think ....
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
Carl Soderberg's deal makes him look like a bargain too
- stljam


leave Yeti out of this, hes awesome. He did what he did playing with Kelly and Erickson as his wingers. Now he gets Landy and Mack. He will have a big year
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:30 PM ET
@icemancometh: Kesler's new deal is huge. Six years, $41.25 million. ($6.875M AAV).

LOL, ryan kesler...

- FourFeathers773


Yet Niemi is a free agent and they don't sign him? WOW
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 15 @ 12:30 PM ET
Everyone keep in mind...

Ryan Kesler scored 47 pts last year. Everyone has labeled him a "perfect fit"in ANA

Anisimov will be a massive bargain even scratching 50 pts playing with Kane

- FourFeathers773


By that you mean a donkey like Boudreau and Perry?
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
I'll take a top-4 d-man over "picks and prospects" every single day of the week. No brainer.
- TommyHawk


Actually that isn't a no brainer. If the Hawks were not picking up any significant salary, then Oduya and most likely Kruger is resigned by now with Sharp's $5.9M off the books. Probably no talk of Shaw getting traded. No Garbutt on the team. Johns is the #6 dman.

As I said earlier, Bowman (frank)ed this one up royally.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
Yet Niemi is a free agent and they don't sign him? WOW
- BetweenTheDots


he signed with the stars before he hit UFA (traded rights)
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
Meant to say was a free agent
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
leave Yeti out of this, hes awesome. He did what he did playing with Kelly and Erickson as his wingers. Now he gets Landy and Mack. He will have a big year
- DDM-Coga


Stat wise it might be ok but when it matters most I have a feeling he will disappear.... just saying. I don't have a ton of experience watching him but just what I have noticed. I think Wiz said something similar a while back too.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
Anisimov is 2.75 years younger than Kesler, who is also injury prone. Good luck with that contract in another year or two!
- KingB


LMAO. Other than 1 year, Kesler has played 77 or more games every year since 2006. Kesler is one of the 3 or 4 best two-way center in the NHL. Comparing Anisimov to him is laughable.
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