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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM ET
Now now...dont encourage the trol
- SMBDragon


Carol is really sensnucksnocups
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
But why are we settling for Miller if we're not contending? Why not keep both of the younger goalies? Miller's sv%has sucked since he's been in the western conference.

Not sure what Gillis has to do regarding Benning. Benning forced Garrison out after he took a discount to sign with his hometown team, he fired a long time equipment manager, I don't think he's as classy or honest as some like to pretend he is.

- Nucker101


We are settling on Miller because of his experience and pedigree, I like you never liked the Miller signing either, but Lack had some questionable outings also....i think golfingsince was the one to point out he leaves huge holes in his playing style and i also don't think he will be a true #1.

My Gillis/Benning comparisons were because you said you can't see the logic in his moves, but you always saw Gillis's logic. I can see the Miller logic like the move or not, did I always see the logic with Gillis...not on your life, will i always see Bennings logic, probably not.

Will i always try to be open minded and objective regarding the canucks...fcuk i really hope so.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
Sounds like some here need a hobby....

Hey guys we will see what happens in a few months.

- SMBDragon

I'm at work
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
I'd make that trade in a second. I like JV too but Ehlers has higher upside imo
- Nucker101

Not disagreeing but the decision was made.
golfingsince
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Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
You sure?
- Nucker101



He looks like a nice pick though. He's played on so many teams the past couple of years it has to be tough. nearly a PPG pace as an 18/19 year old in the AHL.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM ET
The thing I liked about the Sundin signing was Gillis swung for the homer.
- VANTEL

The 2nd year could have (frank)ed us big time if Sundin chose to be a greedy bastard
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM ET
I'm at work
- Nucker101

Nice to see the boss getting his money's worth
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM ET
The 2nd year could have (frank)ed us big time if Sundin chose to be a greedy bastard
- Nucker101

Definitely but at least Gillis took the chance
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM ET


He looks like a nice pick though. He's played on so many teams the past couple of years it has to be tough. nearly a PPG pace as an 18/19 year old in the AHL.

- golfingsince

Agreed but Ehlers is my boy. More feisty than Nylander and more skill than Virtanen. I had him dead even with Dal Colle.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM ET
Nice to see the boss getting his money's worth
- VANTEL

Sbisa's got nothing on me


I'm quitting in like 2 or 3 months anyway
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM ET
Next time we should all go as a group.
Dream theater is another great show ive seen about 4 times. Portnoys old band.

- SMBDragon


Good call - we'll have to keep our eyes peeled for any upcoming gigs which might be worth a look. Always fun to go as a group (also much easier to procure bail funds if required )
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
We are settling on Miller because of his experience and pedigree, I like you never liked the Miller signing either, but Lack had some questionable outings also....i think golfingsince was the one to point out he leaves huge holes in his playing style and i also don't think he will be a true #1.

My Gillis/Benning comparisons were because you said you can't see the logic in his moves, but you always saw Gillis's logic. I can see the Miller logic like the move or not, did I always see the logic with Gillis...not on your life, will i always see Bennings logic, probably not.

Will i always try to be open minded and objective regarding the canucks...fcuk i really hope so.

- Makita


Like it told my friend Thunda Chunk. Lack is a goof, period, but Miller is not a 5 million dollar upgrade over Lack. The trade is over, nothing left to see , so we move on.

That's my take.
golfingsince
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Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
Bold moves.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
Sbisa's got nothing on me


I'm quitting in like 2 or 3 months anyway

- Nucker101

golfingsince
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Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
Agreed but Ehlers is my boy. More feisty than Nylander and more skill than Virtanen. I had him dead even with Dal Colle.
- Nucker101


We should make a friendly wager over who has the more productive career.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
Well even if I was tanking I'd give Sbisa just bisons year qualifying offer and if he somehow has a good season then I'd happily give him a raise or trade him. Or just let him walk and open up more minutes for Clendening/Corrado. Miller has no place on a rebuilding team either, I'd rather see Lack/Markstrom. And again, if we're rebuilding then give Kassian another year to get his act together since the stakes are high but the upside is decent.
- Nucker101


You know, I agree totally with what you are saying in this post about Sbisa. It sounds like it would have been the best way to go about signing him. It is a concern. Not exactly something I'd get wound up and completely bent out of shape over though. He will embarrass you while he contributes to not over achieving. It doesnt have the potential screw up our long term goals.

He signed Miller to market value short term and managed excellent contracts on Vrbada and Tanev which are more what I'm looking at... significant players... JB doesnt look stupid then... I'll let those deals counter Sbisa who in my opinion is a cheaper physical upgrade on the turn over machine Bieksa.

Miller wont be here when the rebuild kicks into high gear. These contracts are all over with the Sedins departure. What is your opinion on that? I really don't see Miller standing in the way of the rebuild with the situation that was left behind by Gillis.

Also, is it possible you are being judgmental on things JB has done that coincide with his work orders given by the owner when he was hired?

You are great with stats... but like mentioned... you don't seem to put much into reasoning outside of your stat crunching.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:55 PM ET
We are settling on Miller because of his experience and pedigree, I like you never liked the Miller signing either, but Lack had some questionable outings also....i think golfingsince was the one to point out he leaves huge holes in his playing style and i also don't think he will be a true #1.

My Gillis/Benning comparisons were because you said you can't see the logic in his moves, but you always saw Gillis's logic. I can see the Miller logic like the move or not, did I always see the logic with Gillis...not on your life, will i always see Bennings logic, probably not.

Will i always try to be open minded and objective regarding the canucks...fcuk i really hope so.

- Makita


Fair enough but goalies will need to start at some point or they'll always be unproven. Lack is definitely no Schneider but it's more about me just thinking Miller isn't that good. He allowed plenty of stinkers himself.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM ET
Fair enough but goalies will need to start at some point or they'll always be unproven. Lack is definitely no Schneider but it's more about me just thinking Miller isn't that good. He allowed plenty of stinkers himself.
- Nucker101

John MacLean is the answer
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM ET
We should make a friendly wager over who has the more productive career.
- golfingsince

I doubt either of us will be posting by the time their prime years are nearly finished
golfingsince
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Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM ET
Remember when people were so pissed off Gillis didn't draft Shinkaruk with the 9th overall pick and blasted the Horvat pick ?

Good times.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM ET
I'm guessing Gilman and Henning weren't big fans of some of Benning's moves.
- Nucker101


Maybe? Or the other way round? Linden and Benning want to part ways with the old management who want to keep holding onto expiring contracts for a better 2nd rounder and eventually watch them walk away.

Money puck... lol.

Then of course there could be other reasons.
golfingsince
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Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM ET
I doubt either of us will be posting by the time their prime years are nearly finished
- Nucker101


God I hope not. Maybe by that time Sbisa will have had a HHOF career.
golfingsince
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Jul 18 @ 9:00 PM ET
Whatever happened to DCT ?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:27 PM ET
The Canucks will be around 7-11 position for the better part of the year as far as I can predict.

Maybe the Nux sign a guy who can Qb the powerplay... Ehrhoff...? He's still out there, as long as he can skate, he might be a better option than what we've had so far.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:39 PM ET
The Canucks will be around 7-11 position for the better part of the year as far as I can predict.

Maybe the Nux sign a guy who can Qb the powerplay... Ehrhoff...? He's still out there, as long as he can skate, he might be a better option than what we've had so far.

- kaptaan

Canucks can wait another year for Subban . If we are going after Free Agents wait until next year, when we have cap space.

Don't stroll down memory lane. Look ahead
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