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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:36 PM ET
Luongo, Schneider, Kesler, Bieksa, Lack = Markstrom, Horvat, Sbisa, Sutter, Dorsett, McCann, 3rd, 3rd, 7th, retained salary on Luongo.
- BoTtLePoLiCe

Schneider for Horvat doesn't look terrible now. Let's hope McCann has a similar effect on the Kesler deal.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 28 @ 12:36 PM ET
Luongo, Schneider, Kesler, Bieksa, Lack = Markstrom, Horvat, Sbisa, Sutter, Dorsett, McCann, 3rd, 3rd, 7th, retained salary on Luongo.
- BoTtLePoLiCe


Youth mother (frank)er!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:37 PM ET
Do we have our original second?
Annnnnnnnnd any cap space

- Whiskey-Tango

Yes we have next year's second. We traded the Anaheim second today. We can make room with a trade
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 28 @ 12:37 PM ET
How is Benning supposed to sign Sven now?
- Whiskey-Tango

They have 4 million in cap space don't they? Sven isn't worth more than just over a million per year.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:37 PM ET
That 3 Rd round pick was originally the Canucks which means they can offer sheet a player
- VANTEL

Wait, so it's not Buffalo's?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:37 PM ET
Youth mother (frank)er!
- Whiskey-Tango

Kassian for Prust
Miller over Lack
Clendening gone, traded a 2nd for a 3rd


Dat youth
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
Still looks pretty bad. Just break down piece by piece.
- Nucker101

It's not that simple....Kesler wanted out, how do you measure that?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
Is it?

If you wanted Markstrom to be the guy, then why not let him battle Lack for the starting job? He'll learn more that way than watching Ryan Miller not give a poop for 60 games this year.

I mean, if you want to get younger, get younger. Don't half-ass it.

- BINGO!


Don't bother. It will fall on deaf ears.

You are 100% correct.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
Luongo, Schneider, Kesler, Bieksa, Lack = Markstrom, Horvat, Sbisa, Sutter, Dorsett, McCann, 3rd, 3rd, 7th, retained salary on Luongo.
- BoTtLePoLiCe




Speaking of retained salary
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
#PrayForNucker
- DDM-Coga

(frank)ing Benning
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
Kassian for Prust
Miller over Lack
Clendening gone, traded a 2nd for a 3rd


Dat youth

- Nucker101

I think it was Markstrom over Lack not Miller over Lack. Kassian was traded because he's a cancer, not for youth purposes.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
Sven should be signed for 1 mil max or traded
- VANTEL


For a third.

If Sutter comes at the expense of Sven i will be severely disappointed.
Then again, the two of them on the same line would be perfect.
Both have speed, one is great defensively while hopefully the other gets things going in the opposing zone.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
It's not that simple....Kesler wanted out, how do you measure that?
- LeftCoaster


Do you think Gillis would have done worse, the same or better?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
Don't bother. It will fall on deaf ears.

You are 100% correct.

- bloatedmosquito

No he's not!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
Wait, so it's not Buffalo's?
- Nucker101

Buffalo traded that pick with Pitt
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 28 @ 12:40 PM ET
Do you think Gillis would have done worse, the same or better?
- Nucker101

Let me look at Florida's lineup then get back to you.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:40 PM ET
Let me look at Florida's lineup then get back to you.
- LeftCoaster

Seriously though...
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 28 @ 12:40 PM ET
Kassian for Prust
Miller over Lack
Clendening gone, traded a 2nd for a 3rd


Dat youth

- Nucker101


I doubt any of those four players were in the teams long term vision.
Then again, if you figure that Lack and/or Kassian were building blocks then that's on you.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 28 @ 12:40 PM ET
Lateral move, with the cap space being what it is, obviously Benning isn't done. I'm guessing he's going to be moving some salary out via Higgins/Burrows/Hansen so that he can resign Baertschi.

Horvat is obviously the 2LC now, and I agree with Vantel, Sutter is a decent bottom 6 C and is UFA and could be flipped at the deadline. I admit it looks strange with how close we are to the cap with Baertschi still to sign.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:41 PM ET
You know it's bad when the guy who traded Despres for Lovejoy gets good value in a trade with you.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 28 @ 12:42 PM ET
Seriously though...
- Nucker101

Well - I think they're both poopty at trading to be honest. But I do think Benning has a better long range vision than Gillis. Hard to say though. Gillis was dealing with a different set of circumstances than Benning presently is.

Apples and Oranges to me...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 12:42 PM ET
I doubt any of those four players were in the teams long term vision.
Then again, if you figure that Lack and/or Kassian were building blocks then that's on you.

- Whiskey-Tango


So by that line of thinking it's fine if they lose anyone who's not Horvat/Virtanen/McCann/Boeser no matter what kind of value they get back?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 28 @ 12:42 PM ET
You know it's bad when the guy who traded Despres for Lovejoy gets good value in a trade with you.
- Nucker101

classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 28 @ 12:42 PM ET
(frank)ing Benning
- Nucker101




Don't think Linden is innocent in all of this.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 28 @ 12:43 PM ET
Don't bother. It will fall on deaf ears.

You are 100% correct.

- bloatedmosquito



I just cannot comprehend what the plan here is. Unless he's banking on being able to pick up some big UFA's next season, but even then there's a good chance he'll get (frank)ed by the expansion draft.
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