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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 27 @ 2:39 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Bo Horvat a Potential Youngstar at 2016 Hockey World Cup Daniel Sedin's house has sold, the Prince George Cougars are looking for volunteers for training camp and Bo Horvat's a candidate for the Youngstars Team at the 2016 World Cup of Hockey.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
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Jul 27 @ 2:44 PM ET
Nice read Carol! I think Bo fits the mold of bottom 6 on a stacked (All-Star/Olympic) team very well. His defensive awareness and shutdown capability with offensive upside is basically how those spots are assigned. He has some tough and established competition though. It'll be a big year but also no pressure for him to do anything extra this season as I doubt he will be focused on anything more than getting more icetime in Van
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 27 @ 2:45 PM ET


I hope he gets a look. He's shown quite a bit of promise in his rookie year. A second or third line center role this year could help his chances.
nudge nudge willy....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
Now that it is out in the open , I was the one who bought Daniels house.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 27 @ 3:06 PM ET
Now that it is out in the open , I was the one who bought Daniels house.
- VANTEL

Monoply money doesn't count
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 27 @ 3:07 PM ET
Vantel, when's the house warming party??
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:07 PM ET
I can't see him cracking the roster but you never know.

THN posted their projected roster that looked pretty decent and Horvat was the 5th C on it.

Saad RNH Mackinnon
Gaudreau McDavid Strome
Huberdeau Monahan Jenner
Galchenyuk Couturier Eichel
Drouin Horvat

Jones Trouba
Ekblad Hamilton
Murray Rielly
Severson Ceci

Gibson
Subban
Fucale
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 27 @ 3:15 PM ET
I can't see him cracking the roster but you never know.

THN posted their projected roster that looked pretty decent and Horvat was the 5th C on it.

Saad RNH Mackinnon
Gaudreau McDavid Strome
Huberdeau Monahan Jenner
Galchenyuk Couturier Eichel
Drouin Horvat

Jones Trouba
Ekblad Hamilton
Murray Rielly
Severson Ceci

Gibson
Subban
Fucale

- belcherbd


I think Couturier is his biggest competition for that bottom 6 role. He has experience shutting down the best in the playoffs but hasnt broken through offensively (though Horvat hasnt yet either, but I think he has a better shot to at this point)

EDIT: Also just noticing the lack of NHL experience in net for the U-23 team, obvioulsy given how slow they develop. The position would definitely have to be the weak link on the squad
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 27 @ 3:16 PM ET
The only team I'll cheer for is the one with the most Canucks on it... don't care who that is.
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:25 PM ET
Wow - never realized that Ryan N-H was that old. I always thought that Jagr was the oldtimer in the NHL.....
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
Now that it is out in the open , I was the one who bought Daniels house.
- VANTEL


Darn - I took too long. I was stilling trying to figure out how to place the trade wiith my current house for Daniel's in NHL 2015
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
Now that it is out in the open , I was the one who bought Daniels house.
- VANTEL

Fully stocked with Copper Moon??

nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor Area, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 27 @ 3:42 PM ET
whats a reasonable expectation on horvats offensive ceiling?
50-60 point guy?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:45 PM ET
I think Couturier is his biggest competition for that bottom 6 role. He has experience shutting down the best in the playoffs but hasnt broken through offensively (though Horvat hasnt yet either, but I think he has a better shot to at this point)

EDIT: Also just noticing the lack of NHL experience in net for the U-23 team, obvioulsy given how slow they develop. The position would definitely have to be the weak link on the squad

- WhiteLie


I think Schenn, Scheifele, Wilson, Lowry, Bennett, Pearson, Miller, Lazar, Tierney, Nieto among probably others will be also potential players in the mix.

Many of those guys can play the bottom 6 role very effectively, regardless as long as Horvat plays well he will likely be in consideration.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 27 @ 3:45 PM ET
whats a reasonable expectation on horvats offensive ceiling?
50-60 point guy?

- nightmare3020

Kesler type production in my opinion.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 27 @ 3:48 PM ET
Kesler type production in my opinion.
- pker2theend


I'd say a 50 point defensively responsible player is a good estimation for him.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:50 PM ET
whats a reasonable expectation on horvats offensive ceiling?
50-60 point guy?

- nightmare3020


I think that is very reasonable if not a little optimistic.

Last year the 50-60 point centers were:

Strome, Little, Staal (Eric), Stepan, ROR, Duchene, Bergeron, RNH, Backes, Brassard, Plekanec.

I think he will be more of a 40-50 point guy which I would still be very happy with.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 4:09 PM ET
With players scoring less, is 40 pts the benchmark for a top 6 C?

59 "centermen" scored 40 or more points last year.

13 teams including Vancouver had only 1 40 point center.

8 teams had 2 players with 40 points

7 teams had 3 players with 40 points

1 team (NSH) had 4 players with 40 points.

1 team (NYI) had 5 players with 40 points.
Obviously there will be argument about whether a player always plays C but I looked at only players that NHL listed as C's. For example ROR and Strome were included but played wing as well.

Edit. fixed numbers...
EastVan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 01.07.2015

Jul 27 @ 4:51 PM ET
With players scoring less, is 40 pts the benchmark for a top 6 C?

59 "centermen" scored 40 or more points last year.

14 teams including Vancouver had only 1 40 point center.

10 teams had 2 players with 40 points

5 teams had 3 players with 40 points

1 team (NYI) had 4 players with 40 points.

Obviously there will be argument about whether a player always plays C but I looked at only players that NHL listed as C's. For example ROR and Strome were included but played wing as well.


All of NYI C's played at least 78 games. If Bonino was one point away (39 points, 43 point pace) and missed 7 games last season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 27 @ 5:04 PM ET
All of NYI C's played at least 78 games. If Bonino was one point away (39 points, 43 point pace) and missed 7 games last season.
- EastVan

Are you trying to say we don't suck as bad as we think?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
Vantel, when's the house warming party??
- Marwood

Naked Grape for everyone
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 27 @ 5:18 PM ET
Vantel, when's the house warming party??
- Marwood


"Naked Grape for everyone"

For someone that just bought a $5 million dollar house you sure are a cheap @#$@#$!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 5:19 PM ET
Vantel, when's the house warming party??
- Marwood


"Naked Grape for everyone"

For someone that just bought a $5 million dollar house you sure are a cheap @#$@#$!

- Zogg

I prefer the words Penny Wise


It was actually my life partner Brad Marchand who paid for it
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 5:27 PM ET
All of NYI C's played at least 78 games. If Bonino was one point away (39 points, 43 point pace) and missed 7 games last season.
- EastVan


The top 60 C ranked by points per game and all played over 40 games is a bit different but Bonino still doesn't make the cut.

9 teams with 1 player in the top 60
11 with 2
8 with 3
1 with 4 (NSH)
1 with 0 (ARI)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 5:31 PM ET
The top 60 C ranked by points per game and all played over 40 games is a bit different but Bonino still doesn't make the cut.

9 teams with 1 player in the top 60
11 with 2
8 with 3
1 with 4 (NSH)
1 with 0 (ARI)

- belcherbd

That's 59
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