P Kane 114 playoff points
3 cups
Scored cup winning goal
Conn smythe

E Kane 0 playoff points


Apparently the last name Kane makes you a D bag....too bad for evander he wasn't named Patrick
- Redmile247

Nobody was talking about points or who is the better player... It was about the character of the player.
Both have character issues.

Nobody was talking about points or who is the better player... It was about the character of the player.
Both have character issues.
- jochfr

Yes ....but if you watch pro sports you'll learn that elite players who can perform on the big stage tend to receive a lot more rope to hang themselves ...P Kane can be a douche and more ppl will look the other way ...evander hasn't done jack poop to allow himself to act the way he is so ppl will jump all over him

Yes ....but if you watch pro sports you'll learn that elite players who can perform on the big stage tend to receive a lot more rope to hang themselves ...P Kane can be a douche and more ppl will look the other way ...evander hasn't done jack poop to allow himself to act the way he is so ppl will jump all over him
- Redmile247

Luckily I've never watched a pro sport and don't know this...

Luckily I've never watched a pro sport and don't know this...
- jochfr

You should probably see the evidence before you go around insulting people. At the least it will give your insults some weight.
- James_Tanner

HAHA! Its like he doesn't even read the post he's quoting! Either he quoted the wrong post or he's just trying to confuse everyone. Who else but Tanner could post something like this while quoting ACTUAL EVIDENCE that proves him wrong?

Luckily I've never watched a pro sport and don't know this...
- jochfr

Just sayin ....it's obvious who the bigger D bag is between the two ...unfortunately for evander he has zero reason to be a douche

Just sayin ....it's obvious who the bigger D bag is between the two ...unfortunately for evander he has zero reason to be a douche
- Redmile247

Nobody ever has a reason to act like a clown, and the problem in society now is that it's not aonly allowed, but it's encouraged by way of reality TV shows etc.

Being allowed to act like a buffoon has gone unchecked for far too long.

It is far past the point of people being called out for it, and further if necessary.

James.

I'm not reading anything you write on your own blogs. I no longer even open them, same with Garth. You have no credibility so I no longer follow you in anyway & the only reason I responded is you've tapped into a chat group just like the rest of us.

Not to shake up the Rangers D vs Oilers D thing too much, but in terms of shots, Fenwick, and Corsi Against - The Rangers were extremely close to the Oilers as a team. They didn't prevent a lot of shots. In terms of "High Danger" scoring chances against the Rangers were also a very middling team. They were definitely in the lower tier of the NHL in those regards. People citing Goals Against as a measure of the defense are missing the point completely. Anyway, it's not crazy to say the Rangers' D was sub-par. It was.

Ristolainen is a stud in the making & yes Pysyk deserves to be in the NHL now. The 3 I was referring to were Donovan, Colaiacovo & Weber.

Unfortunately with youth comes mistakes & this is by far the worst D in the entire NHL currently & that will be reflected in Buffalo's ability to win games, especially close games. Tim Murray has done so much to address the forwards but little to nothing to address the D. This will be an issue baring some significant acquisitions between now & the start of the season.

When you look at the really good teams it starts in net, moves out to the D through to the forwards. Yes you can't win if you can't score but it's easier to win 2-1 games than 5-3 games. Just ask NJ, Nas, etc, who have posted great seasons playing sound defensive hockey with limited offense. Hell NJ won 3 Cups & only 1 of those teams could really score. They won playing 1 of the best goalies ever with a solid D & a significant commitment to boring defensive shut down hockey.

And the Leafs got Mitch Marner.

Luckily, because Marner will have a better NHL career than Eichel.

Nobody ever has a reason to act like a clown, and the problem in society now is that it's not aonly allowed, but it's encouraged by way of reality TV shows etc.

Being allowed to act like a buffoon has gone unchecked for far too long.

It is far past the point of people being called out for it, and further if necessary.
- kingcong39

Be careful you can get banned for talking about bloggers like this.

Not to shake up the Rangers D vs Oilers D thing too much, but in terms of shots, Fenwick, and Corsi Against - The Rangers were extremely close to the Oilers as a team. They didn't prevent a lot of shots. In terms of "High Danger" scoring chances against the Rangers were also a very middling team. They were definitely in the lower tier of the NHL in those regards. People citing Goals Against as a measure of the defense are missing the point completely. Anyway, it's not crazy to say the Rangers' D was sub-par. It was.
- Matt_Henderson

Rangers had 2412 SA
Oilers had 2454 SA

Not to shake up the Rangers D vs Oilers D thing too much, but in terms of shots, Fenwick, and Corsi Against - The Rangers were extremely close to the Oilers as a team. They didn't prevent a lot of shots. In terms of "High Danger" scoring chances against the Rangers were also a very middling team. They were definitely in the lower tier of the NHL in those regards. People citing Goals Against as a measure of the defense are missing the point completely. Anyway, it's not crazy to say the Rangers' D was sub-par. It was.
- Matt_Henderson

Stop stealing Tanner's thunder.

SUCK IT !! SAYBEERS...stinkin Sabres fans

Be careful you can get banned for talking about bloggers like this.
- Cptmjl

Be careful you can get banned for talking about bloggers like this.
- Cptmjl

Matt.

A perfect example of why analytics have a serious degree of variance, as the final #'s in goals for & against don't support the those stats you mention specificly & the degree of variance in real world outcome is significant.

Look at Edler the year before last. His possession #'s were off the charts, he drove possession but he was minus -39 to lead the league. I'm not rejecting new stats but as Rick Dudley said to me. Stats are great but eventually we have to play the games & skill luck & momentum which can't be quantified come into play & determine who wins or loses & oddly enough in hockey, more than any other sport they repeat themselves, whether the #'s support it or not. Skill & abilities trump stats, just ask Carey Price.

That's not to reject them, we take in everything & all, but all have value, you can't just take 1 snap shot & try to justify your argument. When all is said & done the team that scores the most goals wins. Regardless of what the stats say.

Matt.

A perfect example of why analytics have a serious degree of variance, as the final #'s in goals for & against don't support the those stats you mention specificly & the degree of variance in real world outcome is significant.

Look at Edler the year before last. His possession #'s were off the charts, he drove possession but he was minus -39 to lead the league. I'm not rejecting new stats but as Rick Dudley said to me. Stats are great but eventually we have to play the games & skill luck & momentum which can't be quantified come into play & determine who wins or loses & oddly enough in hockey, more than any other sport they repeat themselves, whether the #'s support it or not. Skill & abilities trump stats, just ask Carey Price.

That's not to reject them, we take in everything & all, but all have value, you can't just take 1 snap shot & try to justify your argument. When all is said & done the team that scores the most goals wins. Regardless of what the stats say.
- striker777

Goals against is still a terrible way to rate a team's defense. You might have heard about the position of goalie before?

Nobody ever has a reason to act like a clown, and the problem in society now is that it's not aonly allowed, but it's encouraged by way of reality TV shows etc.

Being allowed to act like a buffoon has gone unchecked for far too long.

It is far past the point of people being called out for it, and further if necessary.
- kingcong39

I can agree with this !
Unfortunately until players actually start losing millions due to their off ice actions there will be rich young D bags in every city

JJ, do you really have any moral ground to stand on when judging the character of other teams' players? Didn't think so.

Ristolainen is a stud in the making & yes Pysyk deserves to be in the NHL now. The 3 I was referring to were Donovan, Colaiacovo & Weber.

Unfortunately with youth comes mistakes & this is by far the worst D in the entire NHL currently & that will be reflected in Buffalo's ability to win games, especially close games. Tim Murray has done so much to address the forwards but little to nothing to address the D. This will be an issue baring some significant acquisitions between now & the start of the season.

When you look at the really good teams it starts in net, moves out to the D through to the forwards. Yes you can't win if you can't score but it's easier to win 2-1 games than 5-3 games. Just ask NJ, Nas, etc, who have posted great seasons playing sound defensive hockey with limited offense. Hell NJ won 3 Cups & only 1 of those teams could really score. They won playing 1 of the best goalies ever with a solid D & a significant commitment to boring defensive shut down hockey.
- striker777

I think all 3 of the ones you mentioned belong in the NHL, but unfortunately for Buffalo it's on the bottom pairing or as the 7th D.

Buffalo will be bad again but not as bad, and perhaps even slightly enjoyable to watch. They will get their D in both the 2016 draft and via a trade or signing.

If I had to watch a team play like NJ did back in the day, I would probably gouge my own eyes out with a fork.

Beyond McDavid, the Oilers have Draisaitl who at this point in his career is killing Reinhart.

I am surprised that nobody mentioned this comment

Every ranking I see has Reinhardt ahead of Draisatl - his play in World Juniors was tremendous

I guess time will tell but I will take Reinhardt to the bank

Beyond McDavid, the Oilers have Draisaitl who at this point in his career is killing Reinhart.

I am surprised that nobody mentioned this comment

Every ranking I see has Reinhardt ahead of Draisatl - his play in World Juniors was tremendous

I guess time will tell but I will take Reinhardt to the bank
- alopinski

He stinks.

Beyond McDavid, the Oilers have Draisaitl who at this point in his career is killing Reinhart.

I am surprised that nobody mentioned this comment

Every ranking I see has Reinhardt ahead of Draisatl - his play in World Juniors was tremendous

I guess time will tell but I will take Reinhardt to the bank
- alopinski

Well in terms of WHL regular season scoring Drai was better. In terms of eP/60 Drai was better (actually the best in the WHL) http://chlstats.pythonany...ere.com/players/WHL/2014/, Drai won the WHL Playoff MVP, and he won the Mem Cup MVP.

I couldn't possibly see how Reinhart is viewed as his superior today.