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Mr.S_III
Location: AB
Joined: 07.23.2015

Aug 25 @ 3:18 PM ET
The oilers are so improved maybe they'll give up on the season a month later this year... in December
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Aug 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
we already knew Tanner and Henderson would say Edmonton without any justification.

If you're answering the question as it was asked, i.e. "offseason additions", then i think Edmonton does edge out Buffalo....however, if you do as Henderson did and group in the other youngsters/recent additions, then i think it's a wash at best. Buffalo has the better shutdown D corps with the likely promotions of McCabe and Pysk to Risto. and Baggosian, while Sekkera will give a boost to the Offensive prowess of the Oilers D.

Buffalo's additions of Kane and ROR are far better than any Offensive additions made by Edmonton, draft excluded.....though i do agree the Oils take the edge in goal.

Description of Draisaitl as "killing Reinhart" is comical. If you're trying to compare Sam Reinhart to Draisaitl, there's really not much to compare. They BOTH had bad showings for their respective NHL teams last season and were sent back to minors where both put up nearly identical Points/Game, with Draisaitl having about a 0.3 PPG edge.....not sure how that equates into "killing Reinhart".

But the best quote goes to John Jaeckel: "And McDavid seems to be the more mature, proven NHL ready commodity at this point."

How is it again, that either are a "proven NHL ready commodity", when neither of them has played a single NHL game? I would actually argue, based off the results of the NHL combine (Eichel had 7 categories where he finished top 10, McDavid had 2) that physically, Eichel is more ready for the rigors of the NHL. Remember, Eichel also spent his last season playing against guys much older than him in NCAA league, you can't say that for McDavid
oilerfan94
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.15.2012

Aug 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
we already knew Tanner and Henderson would say Edmonton without any justification.

If you're answering the question as it was asked, i.e. "offseason additions", then i think Edmonton does edge out Buffalo....however, if you do as Henderson did and group in the other youngsters/recent additions, then i think it's a wash at best. Buffalo obviously has the better shutdown D corps with the likely promotions of McCabe and Pysk to Risto. and Baggosian, while Sekkera will give a boost to the Offensive prowess of the Oilers D.

Buffalo's additions of Kane and ROR are far better than any Offensive additions made by Edmonton, draft excluded.....though i do agree the Oils take the edge in goal.

Description of Draisaitl as "killing Reinhart" is comical. If you're trying to compare Sam Reinhart to Draisaitl, there's really not much to compare. They BOTH had bad showings for their respective NHL teams last season and were sent back to minors where both put up nearly identical Points/Game, with Draisaitl having about a 0.3 PPG edge.....not sure how that equates into "killing Reinhart".

But the best quote goes to John Jaeckel: "And McDavid seems to be the more mature, proven NHL ready commodity at this point."

How is it again, that either are a "proven NHL ready commodity", when neither of them has played a single NHL game? I would actually argue, based off the results of the NHL combine (Eichel had 7 categories where he finished top 10, McDavid had 2) that physically, Eichel is more ready for the rigors of the NHL. Remember, Eichel also spent his last season playing against guys much older than him in NCAA league, you can't say that for McDavid

- nikel


Kane wasn't an offseason acquisition. ROR is a bit of a headcase, cost probably more than he should have, and the contract hurts the value of the acquisition. Two fine top 6 players, though. ROR will help carry the load.

Edmonton adds Nurse, Reinhart, etc. to Sekera, Klefbom, Fayne, and work-in-progress Schultz. I don't see where BUF's D is any better.

Eichel played against men and 23YOs who will never sniff an ECHL contract. Two sides to that sword. McDavid is unanimously the best prospect in a decade, if not more. Crosby didn't have a hard time adjusting to the rigor of the NHL.

and honestly I see Reinhart and Draisaitl as a wash right now, don't see an argument for SR passing LD
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Aug 25 @ 4:01 PM ET
Kane wasn't an offseason acquisition. ROR is a bit of a headcase, cost probably more than he should have, and the contract hurts the value of the acquisition. Two fine top 6 players, though. ROR will help carry the load.

Edmonton adds Nurse, Reinhart, etc. to Sekera, Klefbom, Fayne, and work-in-progress Schultz. I don't see where BUF's D is any better.

Eichel played against men and 23YOs who will never sniff an ECHL contract. Two sides to that sword. McDavid is unanimously the best prospect in a decade, if not more. Crosby didn't have a hard time adjusting to the rigor of the NHL.

and honestly I see Reinhart and Draisaitl as a wash right now, don't see an argument for SR passing LD

- oilerfan94



NHLers he played against at IIHF would disagree.....
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 25 @ 4:21 PM ET
NHLers he played against at IIHF would disagree.....
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

JakeTech19
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.20.2015

Aug 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
People underrate Talbot because they think the Rangers have a great defense which he benifited from. Not true - the Rangers D wasn't that much greater than the Oilers last year.

I'm sure people will call that ridiculous, so my next blog will be about that later today.

- James_Tanner


Still waiting on that blog, Tanner.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 25 @ 5:25 PM ET
Still waiting on that blog, Tanner.
- JakeTech19



It's out!
Mr.S_III
Location: AB
Joined: 07.23.2015

Aug 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
It's out!
- James_Tanner


Then how is Yandle second paring in NY yet he would be the best dman by a long shot in Edmonton?
Redemption17
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 25 @ 7:05 PM ET
I don't know, to me Buffalo's future is not as promising as it was before. Don't get me wrong, it's still very promising, but that future defense that was head and shoulders above so many teams, fell back into the pack. And the forward core got slightly better, but it didn't make up for the difference on defensive promise that they loss.
Still very promising, just not as promising as before. But this is all speculation anyway, so I could be totally wrong. They could become a juggernaut for all I know, or maybe be a little bit worse than I expect. Nobody knows at this point.
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Aug 25 @ 7:22 PM ET
Kane wasn't an offseason acquisition. ROR is a bit of a headcase, cost probably more than he should have, and the contract hurts the value of the acquisition. Two fine top 6 players, though. ROR will help carry the load.

Edmonton adds Nurse, Reinhart, etc. to Sekera, Klefbom, Fayne, and work-in-progress Schultz. I don't see where BUF's D is any better.

Eichel played against men and 23YOs who will never sniff an ECHL contract. Two sides to that sword. McDavid is unanimously the best prospect in a decade, if not more. Crosby didn't have a hard time adjusting to the rigor of the NHL.

and honestly I see Reinhart and Draisaitl as a wash right now, don't see an argument for SR passing LD

- oilerfan94



Exactly, that's why I elaborated with: "if you're answering the question as it was asked, i.e. "offseason additions", then i think Edmonton does edge out Buffalo....however, if you do as Henderson did and group in the other youngsters/recent additions..."

and again, Exactly.....I'm not necessarily arguing that Buffalo's D is that much better than Edmonton's, just that Edmonton's is NOT drastically better than Buffalo's either, as the post would have you believe.
oilerfan94
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.15.2012

Aug 25 @ 7:51 PM ET
NHLers he played against at IIHF would disagree.....
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


what 7 games? guess McD played against men at biosteel, whoopdeedoo. Not like JE blew the doors off. 30% possession player against Russia

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 25 @ 8:30 PM ET
what 7 games? guess McD played against men at biosteel, whoopdeedoo. Not like JE blew the doors off. 30% possession player against Russia
- oilerfan94



Im curious where you got this from?
kessellover69
Joined: 08.20.2014

Aug 25 @ 10:23 PM ET
Im curious where you got this from?
- Sabresfan-365

Doesn't matter either way. Possession doesn't work when you try to use it game by game. Basically 30% in one game is you were in the ice for 3 shots for and 7 against. In one game I don't see how this stat is relevant
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Aug 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
Oiler fan here.

Both did very well. I don't know if you can really say who did better at this point. I prefer where Edmonton is right now considerably but that is primarily because Buffalo was that much worse last year.
Dr3aMWeav3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Human Paraquat, VA
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 25 @ 11:10 PM ET
and honestly I see Reinhart and Draisaitl as a wash right now, don't see an argument for SR passing LD
- oilerfan94

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/
this should clear it up for you.
Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 26 @ 10:28 AM ET
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/
this should clear it up for you.

- Dr3aMWeav3r


Trolololololololo
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:44 AM ET
So if Tanner says the Oilers does that mean Buffalo actually had the better off-season?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
I don't know, to me Buffalo's future is not as promising as it was before. Don't get me wrong, it's still very promising, but that future defense that was head and shoulders above so many teams, fell back into the pack. And the forward core got slightly better, but it didn't make up for the difference on defensive promise that they loss.
Still very promising, just not as promising as before. But this is all speculation anyway, so I could be totally wrong. They could become a juggernaut for all I know, or maybe be a little bit worse than I expect. Nobody knows at this point.

- Redemption17


Every Buffalo fan would agree regarding their D in losing Zadorov, however, they are very high on Ristolainen, Pysyk, and Mccabe, along with having high hopes for both Brycen Martin and Anthony Florentino.

What they did means the D will take a little longer to develop and likely require both drafting a D with a high pick in the 2016 draft and signing an FA impact D.
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