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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Review/Game Day: Time to Put Out the Flames? After a 4-1 road loss to Calgary on Friday night, the Vancouver Canucks will ice a more experienced lineup for Saturday's rematch at Rogers Arena.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
Tonight will be a better showing
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Sep 26 @ 1:39 PM ET
It is time to win a game and start looking like a team. Hope B. Gaunce has a good game and earns a spot. Give him a shot with the twins, it is only exhibition but I like his work along the boards.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
It's pre season. Wins and losses count for nothing. Sending shinkaruk down is a bit of a head scratcher, same with pedan. Unless it's because of the France game, I don't get it. Both looked good and deserved 1 more game?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 26 @ 1:51 PM ET
It's pre season. Wins and losses count for nothing. Sending shinkaruk down is a bit of a head scratcher, same with pedan. Unless it's because of the France game, I don't get it. Both looked good and deserved 1 more game?
- Codes1087



Well put
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 26 @ 1:56 PM ET
It's pre season. Wins and losses count for nothing. Sending shinkaruk down is a bit of a head scratcher, same with pedan. Unless it's because of the France game, I don't get it. Both looked good and deserved 1 more game?
- Codes1087


Perry Pearn has lots of nice things to say about Shinkaruk today:

Steve Ewen ‏@SteveEwen 8m8 minutes ago
#Canucks AC Perry Pearn on Hunter Shinkaruk going to Utica: "Hunter was much, much better in this training camp than he was last year."

Says it is about them needing a full team to send to France.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:58 PM ET
It's pre season. Wins and losses count for nothing. Sending shinkaruk down is a bit of a head scratcher, same with pedan. Unless it's because of the France game, I don't get it. Both looked good and deserved 1 more game?
- Codes1087

Everybody can't make the team. It's as simple as that.

Tomorrow's cuts

Biega
Grenier
Cannata
Jones
Jensen
Fedun
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Sep 26 @ 2:00 PM ET
It's pre season. Wins and losses count for nothing. Sending shinkaruk down is a bit of a head scratcher, same with pedan. Unless it's because of the France game, I don't get it. Both looked good and deserved 1 more game?
- Codes1087


Neither is starting the season in Vancouver. Even if they played great in the next pre-season game they'd both be in Utica. No room for them.

Make them play so well in Utica that they force a call up. That's how to develop players successfully (see the Detroit Red Wings).
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Sep 26 @ 2:00 PM ET
Unless Grenier gets like 12 goals with the sedins... bye bye Grenier.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
Perry Pearn has lots of nice things to say about Shinkaruk today:

Steve Ewen ‏@SteveEwen 8m8 minutes ago
#Canucks AC Perry Pearn on Hunter Shinkaruk going to Utica: "Hunter was much, much better in this training camp than he was last year."

Says it is about them needing a full team to send to France.

- Carol Schram


France is a crazy country. They love comedy and their idol is Jerry Lewis. We should have sent Sbisa. They would love him and probably build a hockey arena right after.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
Unless Grenier gets like 12 goals with the sedins... bye bye Grenier.
- Retinalz



He seems like one of Benning's boys(I doubt it was WD alone who came up with the decision to play him with the Twins) so I actually think a good showing could keep him up to live another day.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:11 PM ET
Perry Pearn has lots of nice things to say about Shinkaruk today:

Steve Ewen ‏@SteveEwen 8m8 minutes ago
#Canucks AC Perry Pearn on Hunter Shinkaruk going to Utica: "Hunter was much, much better in this training camp than he was last year."

Says it is about them needing a full team to send to France.

- Carol Schram



The Subban thing still annoys me. Why couldn't they have given him a game or two and done the same with him? Even if he has like a 1% chance of making it, playing with some NHL'ers against a few NHL'ers would have been better for him and made him feel like they actually believed that he could make the team this year even if it wasn't the plan.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 26 @ 2:14 PM ET
It is time to win a game and start looking like a team. Hope B. Gaunce has a good game and earns a spot. Give him a shot with the twins, it is only exhibition but I like his work along the boards.
- flyerdude17

Much stronger on the puck and he has developed 4-5 stride speed with his skating...much improved. Looking for a good showing at home.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
It is time to win a game and start looking like a team. Hope B. Gaunce has a good game and earns a spot. Give him a shot with the twins, it is only exhibition but I like his work along the boards.
- flyerdude17


Agree on Gaunce, he looks so much better suited for the 4LC spot than Vey.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Sep 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
The Subban thing still annoys me. Why couldn't they have given him a game or two and done the same with him? Even if he has like a 1% chance of making it, playing with some NHL'ers against a few NHL'ers would have been better for him and made him feel like they actually believed that he could make the team this year even if it wasn't the plan.
- Nucker101


It's probably about sending a message as to how close he is and how hard he's going to have to work still to make the team. He's got some great skills, and hopefully he's on the right track, but has a ways to go still.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
The Subban thing still annoys me. Why couldn't they have given him a game or two and done the same with him? Even if he has like a 1% chance of making it, playing with some NHL'ers against a few NHL'ers would have been better for him and made him feel like they actually believed that he could make the team this year even if it wasn't the plan.
- Nucker101

I have to admit this is a bit baffling. I get the fact that Utica needs players for France but not really at the expense of the big clubs development. Would have been real good to see Subban play against the Men to see where he stacks up. Shink and Pedan are down a game or two too soon.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Sep 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
Agree on Gaunce, he looks so much better suited for the 4LC spot than Vey.
- Nucker101


Putting Vey on the 4th line is just putting him in a position to fail.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
It's probably about sending a message as to how close he is and how hard he's going to have to work still to make the team. He's got some great skills, and hopefully he's on the right track, but has a ways to go still.
- KB3Point0

But why single him out?

Hutton/JV/McCann/Cassels are all first year pros and got games. I'm sure they said something similar to him, but I'm sure that if he's even half as competitive as PK that he's wondering why he didn't even get to lace em up for one game....I mean didn't he play in one last year and score a goal and then get sent down after?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
It's probably about sending a message as to how close he is and how hard he's going to have to work still to make the team. He's got some great skills, and hopefully he's on the right track, but has a ways to go still.
- KB3Point0

All true...but not one game out of 8 pre season games?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Sep 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
I'm not upset, I think the players were told well ahead what the plan was, which is why alot of the Utica players (or bubble players like Shink/Subban/Pedan etc) knew they were going to France which is why you didn't see them stick around or try harder. I think if they didn't have to go to France (which is a stupid idea as it is) you'd have seen them all stay another week closer to final cuts.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
I'm not upset, I think the players were told well ahead what the plan was, which is why alot of the Utica players (or bubble players like Shink/Subban/Pedan etc) knew they were going to France which is why you didn't see them stick around or try harder. I think if they didn't have to go to France (which is a stupid idea as it is) you'd have seen them all stay another week closer to final cuts.
- DariusKnight


Yeah, I'm shocked that they agreed to it. Tampa's doing it too, but their NHL roster spot is much more set in stone so it makes way more sense for them.

Not sure why Linden/Benning said yes, it's a cool experience and all but not sure if it's the best move for the franchise.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:25 PM ET

- Marwood

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 26 @ 2:26 PM ET

- Nucker101

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 26 @ 2:29 PM ET
The Subban thing still annoys me. Why couldn't they have given him a game or two and done the same with him? Even if he has like a 1% chance of making it, playing with some NHL'ers against a few NHL'ers would have been better for him and made him feel like they actually believed that he could make the team this year even if it wasn't the plan.
- Nucker101


Moot.

I'm sure these feeling you are talking about are your own and not his. If these prospects were down as easy as you over this stuff they wouldnt even try and be a NHL player.

You have to trick Subban into thinking he's has a chance to make the team this year??? You think he is that stupid?
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