James Tanner: Recap of a Huge Week: Elections, Blue Jays, Coyotes, Rinaldos and Carlyle?

MLB really has nothing to gain by favoring the Royals. The WS viewership for a TO-NY series would have been bonkers. Enough with the umps. They weren't responsible for 14-2 game 4 loss.

MLB really has nothing to gain by favoring the Royals. The WS viewership for a TO-NY series would have been bonkers. Enough with the umps. They weren't responsible for 14-2 game 4 loss.
- DoubleDown

No, but there was some pretty drastically bad plays. How that is a home run last night is beyond me, there was the play where the replay showed the guy going off the base and they still called him safe, there was that insane run Texas scored when Russel Martin threw the ball back to the pitcher and some really questionable umpire strike zones. Oh and the time they inexplicably threw the teams starting shortstop out of the game in the seventh inning of a one run game.

Those are the brutal calls made against TO just off the top of my head. Not saying there was a real conspiracy - I'm only saying that with like 9% sincerity - just that maybe the MLB should get some better umps.

James Tanner: Recap of a Huge Week: Elections, Blue Jays, Coyotes, Rinaldos and Carlyle?
- James_Tanner

grossman >gormley. fact

rinaldo with a shoulder to chest hit, yeah lets suspend him

The kids are fun to watch. I'd be interested to see a line of Duclair-Domi-Reider. I can't see too many teams matching that speed. How long before they're forced to move Max to C? I have to think the future 1-2 C's are Max & Strome (not necessarily in that order).

No TV tonight. FAIL. Yet another reason they'll be gone in 18 months. OH! Did I say that out loud?

grossman >gormley. fact

rinaldo with a shoulder to chest hit, yeah lets suspend him
- rinaldo

You keep typing the same thing every day and I'll keep ignoring you. Never gets old.

The kids are fun to watch. I'd be interested to see a line of Duclair-Domi-Reider. I can't see too many teams matching that speed. How long before they're forced to move Max to C? I have to think the future 1-2 C's are Max & Strome (not necessarily in that order).

No TV tonight. FAIL. Yet another reason they'll be gone in 18 months. OH! Did I say that out loud?
- Levit8

I don't think Domi is an NHL centre. But what do you mean no TV?

No TV in Phoenix tonight. Radio only.

I don't think Domi is an NHL centre. But what do you mean no TV?
- James_Tanner

Do you just think he is better suited to wing or is it something specific? He clearly has the skating ability and awareness.

Do you just think he is better suited to wing or is it something specific? He clearly has the skating ability and awareness.
- Levit8

I think he lacks size and defensive awareness to be a good centre. He's quick and has a hell of a shot and is really creative. No sense making him something he's not, I say just let him roam the wing and he'll become a 40 goal scorer eventually.

MLB really has nothing to gain by favoring the Royals. The WS viewership for a TO-NY series would have been bonkers. Enough with the umps. They weren't responsible for 14-2 game 4 loss.
- DoubleDown

Sorry but rich coming from a Habs fan.

Fair enough.
Enjoy the game.

Fair enough.
Enjoy the game.
- Levit8

I hope too. Assuming it's on Centre Ice....I'll be pretty pissed if its not.

I'm not a Jays fan but I did watch the last couple of games, just my opinion, KC was just flat-out a better team.

It is fun to watch kids make the team

I'm not a Jays fan but I did watch the last couple of games, just my opinion, KC was just flat-out a better team.

It is fun to watch kids make the team
- LeftCoaster

I don't see how anyone can call Kansas the better team. Their bullpen is better thats it. They don't even take walks, their offensive is kind of crappy actually.

How many position players on Kansas would you swap out for the guy the Jays have in the corresponding position? One, because you'd rather have Hosmer over Smoak or Collobello. But after that, you'd take the Blue Jay every time. Also their starting pitching is lightyears better.

the homerun last night is tough to argue. it seemed pretty conclusive that it diodnt leave the park so ill kinda give you that one.

the foot off the base was absolutely not conclusive enough to overturn. in all probability he did lift it off, but we couldn't for sure see space between his foot and the bag in the replay. the only real thing that gave us pause was the foot push back to the bag. but again--not enough evidence to overturn.

the russell martin throw to the pitcher was just called incorrectly by the ump in the first place. the rules say its a live play, it was never a dead ball. point is, it shoulda never even been that much of an issue. its a legal run scored.

some questionable strikes called. but that aint new.

it was there for the taking, and they couldnt make it happen. I think the better team won.

also, whats the issue with gibby? stellar manager

MLB really has nothing to gain by favoring the Royals. The WS viewership for a TO-NY series would have been bonkers. Enough with the umps. They weren't responsible for 14-2 game 4 loss.
- DoubleDown

The Jays could have won that series, blowing that lead in game 2. They had their chance to stomp on the Royals throat with going back to TO for games 3-5.

Royals are a good team but its the cliche saying...The Jays lost that series, The Royal didn't win it.

But the jays will be back, the everyday roster won't be going anywhere next year, just need to pick up another starter and rehaul the bullpen. Lots of quality arms in Free agency for them to add as long as they open their pocket books.

I don't see how anyone can call Kansas the better team. Their bullpen is better thats it. They don't even take walks, their offensive is kind of crappy actually.

How many position players on Kansas would you swap out for the guy the Jays have in the corresponding position? One, because you'd rather have Hosmer over Smoak or Collobello. But after that, you'd take the Blue Jay every time. Also their starting pitching is lightyears better.
- James_Tanner

huh?

theyre way tougher outs. we don't hit the long ball, we lose. period. they can beat you so many more ways.
what was that stat that said when we don't score more than 5 or hit multiple homeruns in a game-we lose pretty much every time.

I dunno how their offence can be called "crappy". they scored 14 in a game.
even the one we went off and scored 11, they actually made a game of and scored 8.
they did the same in game 2.

escobar over tulo.
perez over either martin or navvaro
zobrist every day over goins
u already mentioned hosmer over colabello.
that's half the field right there. at least imo

the last 2 aint even debateable imo. I suppose most of the time id take tulo whos one of the best players in the league. but escobar was the best player in the series, so I gotta take him in this instance

as far as the starting pitching- I dunno about that one either.
we had price whos an ace, but they have 4 pretty solid starters.

the homerun last night is tough to argue. it seemed pretty conclusive, but ill kinda give you that one.

the foot off the base was absolutely not conclusive enough to overturn. in all probability he did lift it off, but we couldn't for sure see space between his foot and the bag in the reply. the only real thing that gave us pause was the foot push back to the bag. but again--not enough to overturn.

the russell martin throw to the pitcher was just called incorrectly by the ump in the first place. the rules say its a live play, it was never a dead ball. point is, it shoulda never even been that much of an issue. its a legal run scored.

some questionable strikes called. but that aint new.

it was there for the taking, and they couldnt make it happen. I think the better team won.

also, whats the issue with gibby? stellar manager
- HB77

Gibbons is a cool guy but probably the worst manager in baseball. He doesn't manage pitchers properly and you can count on at least one awful call per game. Perfect example again last night. Runners on first and second no outs with their worst hitter up to bat. There's no reason to tell him to take the first pitch.

huh?

theyre way tougher outs. we don't hit the long ball, we lose. period. they can beat you so many more ways.
what was that stat that said when we don't score more than 5 or hit multiple homeruns in a game-we lose pretty much every time.

I dunno how their offence can be called "crappy". they scored 14 in a game.
even the one we went off and scored 11, they actually made a game of and scored 8.
they did the same in game 2.

escobar over tulo.
perez over either martin or navvaro
zobrist every day over goins

the last 2 aint even debateable imo. I suppose most of the time id take tulo whos one of the best players in the league. but escobar was the best player in the series, so I gotta take him in this instance

as far as the starting pitching- I dunno about that one either.
we had price whos an ace, but they have 4 pretty solid starters.
- HB77

You'll need to forgive JT, he just discovered baseball in September.

I'm just glad all my friends, who told me "baseball sucks" so many times over the years, will finally put away their shiny new Jays caps and stop trying to talk to me about "the game". The bandawagon sure fills up quick, every 20 years or so.

Gibbons is a cool guy but probably the worst manager in baseball. He doesn't manage pitchers properly and you can count on at least one awful call per game. Perfect example again last night. Runners on first and second no outs with their worst hitter up to bat. There's no reason to tell him to take the first pitch.
- Hunkulese

wtf??

exaggeration does nothing to further your point bro.
no insult intended, but you cant even name all 30 managers, let alone say gibbons is for sure worse than 29 of em. I seriously don't mean that as an attack, im just making a pretty safe assumption.

AA thinks hes effin brilliant and one of the best baseball minds out there. Ill grant you that being in the biz does not make one infallible. but in this case, ima defer to AA.

as far as the pitchers, I think its mostly a case of hindsight that makes the calls easy to question.
Price in the second game I hear a lot about. the guy was cruising. of course u keep your ace in to get out of that 6th. its silly to say otherwise.
putting him in game 4. you don't get to game 5 if you dont lock that down. and I think he had every right to have dikey on a very short leash. we saw that in game 4.

a few were questionable, but none of them are completely unexplainable nor totally out of the realm of baseball logic

I'm not gonna go into a long detailed explanation James, but a prime example is the Jays having a guy on third last night and they couldn't even get him home without anyone out. Like Jesus, play small-ball, pinch-hit, bunt, whatever, just manufacture a run that isn't via the long ball.

Top to bottom the Royals are just better. The Jays are probably the best power team in baseball but that won't win you jack if you can't do all the other things reasonably well.

huh?

theyre way tougher outs. we don't hit the long ball, we lose. period. they can beat you so many more ways.
what was that stat that said when we don't score more than 5 or hit multiple homeruns in a game-we lose pretty much every time.

I dunno how their offence can be called "crappy". they scored 14 in a game.
even the one we went off and scored 11, they actually made a game of and scored 8.
they did the same in game 2.

escobar over tulo.
perez over either martin or navvaro
zobrist every day over goins
u already mentioned hosmer over colabello.
that's half the field right there. at least imo

the last 2 aint even debateable imo. I suppose most of the time id take tulo whos one of the best players in the league. but escobar was the best player in the series, so I gotta take him in this instance

as far as the starting pitching- I dunno about that one either.
we had price whos an ace, but they have 4 pretty solid starters.
- HB77

Man Tulowitzki is better than Escobar in the way that Ray Bourque is better than me. There isn't even a chance Esbobar is better. I'd also say that Goins D (on a team with 8 great bats) makes him better than Zobrist. As for Perez, he's good, but Martin is also better.

I'm not gonna go into a long detailed explanation James, but a prime example is the Jays having a guy on third last night and they couldn't even get him home without anyone out. Like Jesus, play small-ball, pinch-hit, bunt, whatever, just manufacture a run that isn't via the long ball.

Top to bottom the Royals are just better. The Jays are probably the best power team in baseball but that won't win you jack if you can't do all the other things reasonably well.
- LeftCoaster

I don't agree with this. The Royals don't walk and small-ball is vastly overrated. Just my opinion, but if you replay this series over and over I think the Jays win most of the time.

You'll need to forgive JT, he just discovered baseball in September.

I'm just glad all my friends, who told me "baseball sucks" so many times over the years, will finally put away their shiny new Jays caps and stop trying to talk to me about "the game". The bandawagon sure fills up quick, every 20 years or so.
- Vanoxy

Nothing is worse than people who try to act like they're somehow "superior" fans. I'm not into baseball like I am into hockey, but I still follow it and attend games every year so gimme a break with this BS.