- BiggE

From now on, I'll refer to him as MLJ. I don't think it matters too much, right?

no it doesn't mean they all can, but when they're beating out vets in camp, the team is barely a playoff team, it does little harm to bring them up and let them learn on the job. sorry but this whole ghost situation shows some major flaws in logic with some ppl here... an acl injury rehab turned him into an nhler but playing nhl games would not... yea makes total sense
- JoeRussomanno

Speaking of flaws in logic. Gostisbehere is ready to play in the NHL, so that means all of the top Flyers defense prospects are ready also.

So what is everyone having for lunch?

Speaking of flaws in logic. Gostisbehere is ready to play in the NHL, so that means all of the top Flyers defense prospects are ready also.
- MJL

You can only shelter so many defensemen at a time

Well you saw people in high school lift some weights...I am just waiting for you to cite wikipedia

Please tell us when your book comes out so we can buy it and learn all about the human body and how weight is gained. You are so delusional about how pro athletes recover from injuries
- YuenglingJagr

ok you cite me something from an actual medical study where gaining 20 pounds of muscle after puberty is normal.

Wow, you can just never be wrong, can you?

- BiggE

Like I said
Drop all opinions into the shredder before entering.

Speaking of flaws in logic. Gostisbehere is ready to play in the NHL, so that means all of the top Flyers defense prospects are ready also.
- MJL

MLJ... I don't agree with Joe about it meaning that they're all ready because Ghost is... but isn't it possible that maybe some could be? If we don't give them a shot, then how can we know?

Obviously Ghost has matured and developed quite a bit since his last call-up. Isn't it possible though that if Hexy hadn't sent the message for him to do as little as possible, he may have stood out even back then?

Every player is an individual. Just because Hanifan is ready, doesn't mean that Morin is.

Drew Doughty came right to the NHL. PK Subban and Duncan Keith played significant time in the AHL.
- MJL

Also Carolina has the benefit of allowing younger guys to play. They are rebuilding. They can live with the mistakes and feel it was better to have him with the team developing then playing back in college.

Flyers already had plenty of contracts and defenseman. Their window I believe starts I believe in two years. So allowing provorov and other prospects to play in ahl or juniors is better for the flyers long term

I dont think trading Read at the deadline is as easy as most people think. I agree that Leier isnt getting much ice time and I have no problem with him being sent back down. I think they could use him in some other roles while up here though
- YuenglingJagr

I don't think trading Read would be hard. He would be a valuable player to a good team.

Speaking of flaws in logic. Gostisbehere is ready to play in the NHL, so that means all of the top Flyers defense prospects are ready also.
- MJL

honestly i need to see them in some nhl games, but being that some were beating out nhl level players, you're not exactly throwing an i fant into artic waters by letting them play.

MLJ... I don't agree with Joe about it meaning that they're all ready because Ghost is... but isn't it possible that maybe some could be? If we don't give them a shot, then how can we know?

Obviously Ghost has matured and developed quite a bit since his last call-up. Isn't it possible though that if Hexy hadn't sent the message for him to do as little as possible, he may have stood out even back then?
- ThirdEye

You give them the shot when the time is right for the player. There will be plenty of time to give them a shot.

Also Carolina has the benefit of allowing younger guys to play. They are rebuilding. They can live with the mistakes and feel it was better to have him with the team developing then playing back in college.

Flyers already had plenty of contracts and defenseman. Their window I believe starts I believe in two years. So allowing provorov and other prospects to play in ahl or juniors is better for the flyers long term
- J35Bacher

and we're not rebuilding?

Wow, you can just never be wrong, can you?

- BiggE

Never! Just look how dumb we all look regarding AMac!

Thanks Bill. Salute to Brind'Amour for his speech, and his style of play. I am glad to hear that he is still fond of Philly, and it's fans.
Crazy hit on Gagner. Two games in a row with questionable hits. I guess that I am holding my breath for the league to review such stupid plays. Maybe you have to be a "league favorite" to get any attention to bad hits. I say bring up Rosehill, or someone else to keep those idiots in line. It's one thing to hit, and play hard, but to hit dirty is another. Good for Bellemare to respond, however we don't have a real tough guy to counter the other teams dirt bags. I am thinking that the word is getting out that the Flyers are soft, and aren't willing to push back. We better put our big boy pants on, or this will be even a longer season.
The Flyers had a big let down in the third period. I don't know if they thought that the Canes would give up, or that it was going to be an easy win, but they had better wake up, and realize that in order to win games, and be competitive, they have to play a complete game, and not just parts of one. Raffl was one player that had a really bad third period; he stood out when he wasn't playing D in his own end, and when he made some bad turnovers.

Speaking of flaws in logic. Gostisbehere is ready to play in the NHL, so that means all of the top Flyers defense prospects are ready also.
- MJL

No one said all of them are ready, how would we know that?
If someone is better than a player already here, why hurt the team not playing the best players you have?
"If" mind you.

You give them the shot when the time is right for the player. There will be plenty of time to give them a shot.
- MJL

I don't completely disagree. However, sometimes the player isn't ready until they're called upon to be ready. I'm not saying rush every prospect, but I don't think it makes sense when the rest of our roster is in the dumps to not give some of these guys an opportunity (mostly Morin) to show what they can do.

MLJ... I don't agree with Joe about it meaning that they're all ready because Ghost is... but isn't it possible that maybe some could be? If we don't give them a shot, then how can we know?

Obviously Ghost has matured and developed quite a bit since his last call-up. Isn't it possible though that if Hexy hadn't sent the message for him to do as little as possible, he may have stood out even back then?
- ThirdEye

Hextall has said multiple times that it is better to be wrong about taking prospects too slowly, than being wrong about rushing them. It could be a little outdated way of thinking (as the NHL is ever evolving) but I do not think he is wrong. We won't know if he wouldve been better (I think he has over his short time last season) we can only be happy that he is playing well now. He has scored 2 goals and looked great on the PP but is still not taking on much defensively. Lets not act like he is a stud defenseman

No one said all of them are ready, how would we know that?
If someone is better than a player already here, why hurt the team not playing the best players you have?
"If" mind you.
- puckhead17

because the koolaid would spoil, that's why.

and we're not rebuilding?
- JoeRussomanno

No, cough cough, we expect to, cough compete now

How in the hell did he miss an entire gaping open net?
- MJL

That pretty well sums up his entire time as a Hurricane. He's always 3 steps to the left of where he should be.

I don't think trading Read would be hard. He would be a valuable player to a good team.
- MJL

I truly believe that the Flyers could have got TJ Oshie for what Washington gave up by including Read instead of Brouwer. I think we need something else that sees us leaning less on to Giroux and Voracek. Simmonds, Schenn, Couturier and Read should be enough but they're not.

and we're not rebuilding?
- JoeRussomanno

I think we are in a way.

But we also have contracts that need to move. There was no reason to have Provorov playing 10-15 minutes a night in a manning role. I want him playing PP, PK and 20+ minutes in junior. Then next season if players are moved then see where he is at. Same with Sanheim. Morin and hagg could see action after the deadline if vets are moved off the blueline.

Hextall has said multiple times that it is better to be wrong about taking prospects too slowly, than being wrong about rushing them. It could be a little outdated way of thinking (as the NHL is ever evolving) but I do not think he is wrong. We won't know if he wouldve been better (I think he has over his short time last season) we can only be happy that he is playing well now. He has scored 2 goals and looked great on the PP but is still not taking on much defensively. Lets not act like he is a stud defenseman
- YuenglingJagr

By the modern definition of a stud d-man in the NHL, I think he's well on his way.

I don't think trading Read would be hard. He would be a valuable player to a good team.
- MJL

All those really good teams that have 3.6 million dollars in cap space over the next 2+ seasons

Hextall has said multiple times that it is better to be wrong about taking prospects too slowly, than being wrong about rushing them. It could be a little outdated way of thinking (as the NHL is ever evolving) but I do not think he is wrong. We won't know if he wouldve been better (I think he has over his short time last season) we can only be happy that he is playing well now. He has scored 2 goals and looked great on the PP but is still not taking on much defensively. Lets not act like he is a stud defenseman
- YuenglingJagr

the problem with what hextall is saying is you're not rushing them by playing them now, the team sucks, they're not going anywhere. you sit them down and tell them, look this is on the job training, work on getting better, if we lose its not ok but it's less important than wirking on your game. they get ruined by rushing them i to a high expectations situation. are the fans gonna boo? yes but if they can't handle they'll never be ready.