I didn't want delzotto back and I don't need schenn AND Gudas.
- JoeRussomanno

But all 3 can play, realistically.

did he have the same agent as vinny and amac?
- JoeRussomanno

the agent isn't what's in common there

i said last year, ghost needed to play up here, he made some gaffs but so do the guys here now... most here said oh no he needs another year in the ahl, not he needs to recover from anacl amd watch games.
- JoeRussomanno

ghost is physically a different person than he was last year. a lot of young players development is as much about growing into their bodies as it is learning how to play...but you played a sport one time so you already knew that

I think the Penguins like Read...trade Read and Schenn
- vejim

LOL sure...lets just take rob scuderi off their hands...we can take back their 2022 first rounder

But all 3 can play, realistically.
- puckhead17

true I'm just saying in terms of my personal preference.

I personally think he is the force that has changed that mindset. I think it is for the better as well. Hextall has already shown how the model works, and he is executing the plan. He doesnt care what others think is the right way to do things because he feels he knows what is best, and has seen it work. I trust him more than people clueless about pro athlete training and rehabilitation, and use the fact that they had surgery a few times and lifted in high school as their argument
- YuenglingJagr

I don't know, it's much easier doing his job when you know your plan is to just draft, suck, wait. If he felt like he had to win now then we'd see what he could do.
I'm not saying he's not a good GM, but some teams can make moves, stay competitive, and integrate young players at the same time.
I don't think, (deep down), he cares about what the teams record is now, because his plan will stay intact no matter what. Much easier when you know you don't have to show results now.

out of those 8 veterans how many in your opinion should really be here?
- JoeRussomanno

My preference would have been to not resign Nick Schultz...obviously would like AMac to not have the contract he does as well...that is realistically about it. I wish Manning was AHL or scratched instead of Medvedev

ghost is physically a different person than he was last year. a lot of young players development is as much about growing into their bodies as it is learning how to play...but you played a sport one time so you already knew that
- YuenglingJagr

yup recovering from an acl, an injury which often times takes athletes a year or two to fully recover from was the answer. Somebody get on the phone with McCrossin....

fyi actual experience trumps any little articles u or anybody here can come up with

No one said all of them are ready, how would we know that?
If someone is better than a player already here, why hurt the team not playing the best players you have?
"If" mind you.
- puckhead17

Joe absolutely is insinuating that with the logic of his posts. Many are assuming that they are better players, and are confusing more talented with better currently. If the young players are ready, bring them up. If they aren't then don't. Simple formula.

My preference would have been to not resign Nick Schultz...obviously would like AMac to not have the contract he does as well...that is realistically about it. I wish Manning was AHL or scratched instead of Medvedev
- YuenglingJagr

i would not have resigned amac knowing a guy like niskanen was about to hit the market

Another game against a beatable team, another shutout loss for the Flyers.

Oh wait, they won? I thought only 5v5 production counted for anything.

strange place

I don't know, it's much easier doing his job when you know your plan is to just draft, suck, wait. If he felt like he had to win now then we'd see what he could do.
I'm not saying he's not a good GM, but some teams can make moves, stay competitive, and integrate young players at the same time.
I don't think, (deep down), he cares about what the teams record is now, because his plan will stay intact no matter what. Much easier when you know you don't have to show results now.
- puckhead17

I dont think many teams would be competitive if they had Umberger/Vinny/AMac contracts on their books. Nick Schultz is the only move he has made that I completely disagree with. I think the players share some of the responsibility as well. Everyone is having below average years offensively...why I am not completely sure...but I think the team is worse than Hextall predicted

I don't completely disagree. However, sometimes the player isn't ready until they're called upon to be ready. I'm not saying rush every prospect, but I don't think it makes sense when the rest of our roster is in the dumps to not give some of these guys an opportunity (mostly Morin) to show what they can do.
- ThirdEye

That's completely wrong in my opinion, and is not how you manage and develop prospects. You don't call up Morin because you don't like how the current defenseman are playing. You only call up Morin in that situation, because you think he's ready to play in the NHL. Prospect development first. Morin may need a half season in the AHL, maybe a full, or maybe 2 AHL seasons. I don't want any young player rushed just because I want to see him play as a fan. What I want is irrelevant.

All those really good teams that have 3.6 million dollars in cap space over the next 2+ seasons
- YuenglingJagr

Rosters change, do they not?

i would not have resigned amac knowing a guy like niskanen was about to hit the market
- JoeRussomanno

Because Holmgren, (despite his mistakes), had a win now attitude, and did not want to, or enjoy losing, & rebuilding.
If Hextall was told by Snider, "I'm 84, I don't like this slop, fix it now", then we'd see what Hextall could do.
I'm not saying he's not "all that", but I'm sorry, when you play the "lose now, and be patient thing", its much easier than producing wins now.

I truly believe that the Flyers could have got TJ Oshie for what Washington gave up by including Read instead of Brouwer.
- SuperSchennBros

Brouwer had 43 points last season, Read had 30.

Brouwer has 13 points this season, Read had 5.

Brouwer only had one year left at $3.66m, Read had three years left at 3.625m.

Brouwer was more valuable to St Louis.

the problem with what hextall is saying is you're not rushing them by playing them now, the team sucks, they're not going anywhere. you sit them down and tell them, look this is on the job training, work on getting better, if we lose its not ok but it's less important than wirking on your game. they get ruined by rushing them i to a high expectations situation. are the fans gonna boo? yes but if they can't handle they'll never be ready.
- JoeRussomanno

Expectations have zero to do with if a player is rushed or not. Absolutely zero. What determines if a player is rushed or not, is if he is able to handle the situation he is placed in as a player. The current state of the team also has zero to do with it.

Tell me more about high school wrestling.

That was goddamned fascinating.
- johndewar

I want to hear more about the drugs Ghost took.

Never! Just look how dumb we all look regarding AMac!
- PLindbergh31

Thats not fair. He conceded Amac was overpaid.......by 500k

out of those 8 veterans how many in your opinion should really be here?
- JoeRussomanno

That depends on perspective. Right now the Flyers shouldn't do anything in terms of the defense.

I dont think many teams would be competitive if they had Umberger/Vinny/AMac contracts on their books. Nick Schultz is the only move he has made that I completely disagree with. I think the players share some of the responsibility as well. Everyone is having below average years offensively...why I am not completely sure...but I think the team is worse than Hextall predicted
- YuenglingJagr

Sorry, I'm in the minority here, I'm not excepting the dead weight contracts & no cap space crap.
This team has tons of money, Lecavalier is bought out as a start.
Bam, there's $3m in space just as a start.
If your not playing, and not good enough, your gone, done.
Because he has zero pressure to win, (Hextall), is why this guy, and a few others are still here.
Seriously, when's the last time you saw them playing this poorly, and NOTHING from Snider?

strange place
- -davies-

strange days indeed

That depends on perspective. Right now the Flyers shouldn't do anything in terms of the defense.
- MJL

They aren't doing anything in terms of defense based on the games I've watched this season.

yup recovering from an acl, an injury which often times takes athletes a year or two to fully recover from was the answer. Somebody get on the phone with McCrossin....

fyi actual experience trumps any little articles u or anybody here can come up with
- JoeRussomanno

You have absolutely 0 experience as a pro athlete recovering from and injury and what you did to recover from an injury means absolutely nothing to me. The physical recovery from an ACL injury is much shorter than a year or two, and the "full recovery" you speak of is more often mental.

I dont feel the need to cite actual sources as a rebuttal to you because your argument is so completely wrong and everyone knows it. I am sure if you spent as much as 30 seconds googling this issue you would realize you are clueless.