I wonder if the CBJ GM is regretting Torts yet

yeah. No dice yet...
- vancity787

Just let me trade for Eichel first!

I wonder if the CBJ GM is regretting Torts yet
- Retinalz

TSN said on insider trading that the teams that had to submit draft picks when they hired new coaches want those picks back when the rule is changed this summer.

The teams that got those picks said NO CHANCE your getting those picks back.

Just let me trade for Eichel first!
- KB3Point0

I need control of my account before that happens

I need control of my account before that happens
- vancity787

That's why I'm no longer in the pool... I went to Mexico and never was able to sign in after that.

Sami Vitanen 5'10"
Tyson Barrie 5'10"

Jordan Subban is 5'9". As you can see players do not need to be over 6'0" on defense to be useful. Subban could be an effective defender, he is also extremely strong with a solid core.
- Retinalz

Jerad spurgeon, Ryan ellis, too... I think he could be a valuable 4-5 guy. The future of is "fast enough to get back after pinching and solid first pass" which Subban seems to have in spades. Still think he's at least a year away.

Ryan Johansen demoted to the 4th line.


Ahhh Torterella, never ceases to amaze me. He probably didn't block a shot on one shift.


I wonder what he would cost?
- classic321

whatever it is, I'd probably pay it.

Jerad spurgeon, Ryan ellis, too... I think he could be a valuable 4-5 guy. The future of is "fast enough to get back after pinching and solid first pass" which Subban seems to have in spades. Still think he's at least a year away.
- neem55

I'd say 2 years in Utica with call ups next year and he'll be ready full time, same with Cassels. The biggest reason I don't like Sutters deal, is that he will be useless when our young guys come up as a t 6 forward and may hurt resigning more useful future players.

I'd say 2 years in Utica with call ups next year and he'll be ready full time, same with Cassels. The biggest reason I don't like Sutters deal, is that he will be useless when our young guys come up as a t 6 forward and may hurt resigning more useful future players.
- Retinalz

Really? Looks to me like a big fast versatile defensive center, which to me means he can play 2nd or 3rd line be a good pk guy and take clutch faceoffs for at least the 4 years he's signed. You do realize he's only 26 right?

TSN said on insider trading that the teams that had to submit draft picks when they hired new coaches want those picks back when the rule is changed this summer.

The teams that got those picks said NO CHANCE your getting those picks back.
- classic321

As the old saying goes, they can wish in one hand and sh!t in the other and see which hand is full first.

Really? Looks to me like a big fast versatile defensive center, which to me means he can play 2nd or 3rd line be a good pk guy and take clutch faceoffs for at least the 4 years he's signed. You do realize he's only 26 right?
- neem55

5 including this one. Versatile yes, but that isn't worth 4.5mil for a player who will be 3rd/4th line in 2 years(still 3 left on contract) and will primarily move up if injuries occur.

5 including this one. Versatile yes, but that isn't worth 4.5mil for a player who will be 3rd/4th line in 2 years(still 3 left on contract) and will primarily move up if injuries occur.
- Retinalz

Depends on what the cap is in two years, little premature to say. If its up 3 or 4 mil, of a sudden its not so bad. Salaries are bound to inflate a bit, just like in any pro sport.

Depends on what the cap is in two years, little premature to say. If its up 3 or 4 mil, of a sudden its not so bad. Salaries are bound to inflate a bit, just like in any pro sport.
- neem55

The Canadian dollar isn't getting any better. If it doesn't the possibility of it going down exists. I just don't want contracts for 5/6 Dmen and 3rd/4th liners preventing us from signing 1st/2nd liners and 1-4 dmen in the future. I could say 4.5 for Sutter isn't bad now, but it will always be a horrible contract due to the unneeded NTC. NTC should have brought it down to 3.5-4mil range.

The Canadian dollar isn't getting any better. If it doesn't the possibility of it going down exists. I just don't want contracts for 5/6 Dmen and 3rd/4th liners preventing us from signing 1st/2nd liners and 1-4 dmen in the future. I could say 4.5 for Sutter isn't bad now, but it will always be a horrible contract due to the unneeded NTC. NTC should have brought it down to 3.5-4mil range.
- Retinalz

Are you an economist? The CAD can only go down? Good to know. For a guy with a horrible contract we sure miss him a lot right now. I don't believe we will regret signing him in the long run. Kids arent ready for shut down minutes

The Canadian dollar isn't getting any better. If it doesn't the possibility of it going down exists. I just don't want contracts for 5/6 Dmen and 3rd/4th liners preventing us from signing 1st/2nd liners and 1-4 dmen in the future. I could say 4.5 for Sutter isn't bad now, but it will always be a horrible contract due to the unneeded NTC. NTC should have brought it down to 3.5-4mil range.
- Retinalz

He would have said no thanks to 3.5 and took his trade elsewhere

The Canadian dollar isn't getting any better. If it doesn't the possibility of it going down exists. I just don't want contracts for 5/6 Dmen and 3rd/4th liners preventing us from signing 1st/2nd liners and 1-4 dmen in the future. I could say 4.5 for Sutter isn't bad now, but it will always be a horrible contract due to the unneeded NTC. NTC should have brought it down to 3.5-4mil range.
- Retinalz

With all due respect, I think you're underrating the amount of intangables this guy has as a 26 year old and treating him like he's not going to be the same at 30. 30 is still in your prime (this just is not me trying to hold on to my lost youth I swear!)
The guy will be playing the same amount of minutes and has been consistent throughout his career in terms of games played. Not only that, but he's a fast player so even as he declines there is a lot less risk(ie because he's not a skill player), as the NHL is getting faster. This is just my opinion, and I agree with Vantel that he would of got 4.5 elsewhere, these types of guys at this age are rare.

Looks like someone else is managing it now
- PetrolSexual

Benning?

The Canadian dollar isn't getting any better. If it doesn't the possibility of it going down exists. I just don't want contracts for 5/6 Dmen and 3rd/4th liners preventing us from signing 1st/2nd liners and 1-4 dmen in the future. I could say 4.5 for Sutter isn't bad now, but it will always be a horrible contract due to the unneeded NTC. NTC should have brought it down to 3.5-4mil range.
- Retinalz

It isn't bad now but it will always be horrible

That's some super Nucker logic there.

Are you an economist? The CAD can only go down? Good to know. For a guy with a horrible contract we sure miss him a lot right now. I don't believe we will regret signing him in the long run. Kids arent ready for shut down minutes
- CanuckDon

I obivously meant the cap. There was a possibility of it going down this year as well.

It isn't bad now but it will always be horrible

That's some super Nucker logic there.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I think we could have gotten that contract done with out an NTC. I am a firm believer that NTC/NMC should only be used on the ones who will be your superstars.

Benning?
- LordHumungous

* Wiser's slow hand clap*

I obivously meant the cap. There was a possibility of it going down this year as well.
- Retinalz

I don't think there was, I think there was speculation... that is based on the fact that Florida, Pheonix and Carolina can't get homeless people to come to their games for free. Let's get real, it is only going up, this is how capitalism functions and I don't see Hockey getting less popular in the US (the fact that NY is the new #1 in Forbes speaks to this trend).

The Canadian dollar isn't getting any better. If it doesn't the possibility of it going down exists. I just don't want contracts for 5/6 Dmen and 3rd/4th liners preventing us from signing 1st/2nd liners and 1-4 dmen in the future. I could say 4.5 for Sutter isn't bad now, but it will always be a horrible contract due to the unneeded NTC. NTC should have brought it down to 3.5-4mil range.
- Retinalz

I believe his NTC has clauses that kick in after the 3rd year and options open up if the Canucks want to move him.

* Wiser's slow hand clap*
- Marwood

You really think Nucker would let Benning into the pool?

I think we could have gotten that contract done with out an NTC. I am a firm believer that NTC/NMC should only be used on the ones who will be your superstars.
- Retinalz

Thats right... Benning wanted the NTC or no deal...

I think I got in trouble for calling you an idiot last time you said this so I'll pass on pointing that fact out this time just to be safe.