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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:40 PM ET
Thats right... Benning wanted the NTC or no deal...

I think I got in trouble for calling you an idiot last time you said this so I'll pass on pointing that fact out this time just to be safe.

- boonerbuck


Or... for guys that are 26 and will have a productive 4 years based on their sample of play at a reasonable salary given the fact that the cap will likely rise (as it has every year since the new CBA) perhaps?
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Nov 24 @ 11:43 PM ET
Benning?
- LordHumungous


I don't think so; I'd imagine that he has all his 2nd and 3rd round draft picks left
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:43 PM ET
Thats right... Benning wanted the NTC or no deal...

I think I got in trouble for calling you an idiot last time you said this so I'll pass on pointing that fact out this time just to be safe.

- boonerbuck

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 24 @ 11:50 PM ET
Thats right... Benning wanted the NTC or no deal...

I think I got in trouble for calling you an idiot last time you said this so I'll pass on pointing that fact out this time just to be safe.

- boonerbuck

I think it just goes to show Benning is bad at contract negotiations. I've really only seen him play hard ball(or seem to play hardball) with Yannick Weber. Sbisa and Dorsett's agents said that the contract talks were very easy, same with Miller(if i remember correctly).
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:51 PM ET
Moving along, I hope if we land a top ten pick we pick Jake Bean or Dante Fabbro, based purely on the fact that they have sweet names and are d-men
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:57 PM ET
I think we could have gotten that contract done with out an NTC. I am a firm believer that NTC/NMC should only be used on the ones who will be your superstars.
- Retinalz


Sutter wasn't going to sign without one. He was very emphatic because he's already uprooted his family a few times very recently. What you think is wrong.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:01 AM ET
I think it just goes to show Benning is bad at contract negotiations. I've really only seen him play hard ball(or seem to play hardball) with Yannick Weber. Sbisa and Dorsett's agents said that the contract talks were very easy, same with Miller(if i remember correctly).
- Retinalz


No reason to play hardball with every contract. That is not the sign of a good negotiator. The sign of a good negotiator is actually to make the other party feel happy while getting what you want.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 25 @ 12:02 AM ET
No reason to play hardball with every contract. That is not the sign of a good negotiator. The sign of a good negotiator is actually to make the other party feel happy while getting what you want.
- KB3Point0

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 12:02 AM ET
I think it just goes to show Benning is bad at contract negotiations. I've really only seen him play hard ball(or seem to play hardball) with Yannick Weber. Sbisa and Dorsett's agents said that the contract talks were very easy, same with Miller(if i remember correctly).
- Retinalz



Benning is actually doing some decent contracts. Sbisa is not making the same screw ups as last year, is the only Dman will guts and that can make a decent hit. 3.6 for two more years for the only sandpaper on the back end, I'll take it.

Bartowski, 1.7 brings speed and some offence , still young and can on occassion be abrasive .

Sutter top 6 plays all situations , young and part of the future core. 4.3

Last year people on here said if Dorsett wanted 4 mil sign him. We signed him at 2.6 . To me that's his worst signing.

Prust . People laughed. We are a more difficult team with him in the line up

He is nowhere near as bad as some fans think he is.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 12:03 AM ET
No reason to play hardball with every contract. That is not the sign of a good negotiator. The sign of a good negotiator is actually to make the other party feel happy while getting what you want.
- KB3Point0

Well said
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:05 AM ET
Benning is actually doing some decent contracts. Sbisa is not making the same screw ups as last year, is the only Dman will guts and that can make a decent hit. 3.6 for two more years for the only sandpaper on the back end, I'll take it.

Bartowski, 1.7 brings speed and some offence , still young and can on occassion be abrasive .

Sutter top 6 plays all situations , young and part of the future core. 4.3

Last year people on here said if Dorsett wanted 4 mil sign him. We signed him at 2.6 . To me that's his worst signing.

Prust . People laughed. We are a more difficult team with him in the line up


He is nowhere near as bad as some fans think he is.

- VANTEL


I agree, I've liked Prust and clearly we made the right call letting Kassian be a f-up in another city (much as I liked Ogre from the nerds movies being on our team). Dorsett for 2.6.... big stretch for me, much more than Sutter or Sbisa, Sbisa's been alright so far and he is young.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 12:09 AM ET
I agree, I've liked Prust and clearly we made the right call letting Kassian be a f-up in another city (much as I liked Ogre from the nerds movies being on our team). Dorsett for 2.6.... big stretch for me, much more than Sutter or Sbisa, Sbisa's been alright so far and he is young.
- neem55

Sbisa has a big Meat a Balls . He do a fine
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:18 AM ET
Really? Looks to me like a big fast versatile defensive center, which to me means he can play 2nd or 3rd line be a good pk guy and take clutch faceoffs for at least the 4 years he's signed. You do realize he's only 26 right?
- neem55



I wish he was big. He may be tall, but he is not BIG, he is 15 pounds too light, thats probably why he gets knocked off the puck pretty easily.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:20 AM ET
I wish he was big. He may be tall, but he is not BIG, he is 15 pounds too light, thats probably why he gets knocked off the puck pretty easily.
- classic321

Are we watching the same player?! I haven't seen him get knocked off the puck much at all, in fact he looks annoying as frank to play against due to his speed long reach and defensive acumen. He may not hit, I'll give you that, but he battles and IMO seems to win a lot of puck battles.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:22 AM ET
Sutter wasn't going to sign without one. He was very emphatic because he's already uprooted his family a few times very recently. What you think is wrong.
- KB3Point0



Sutter isn't even married, and he doesn't have any kids.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:27 AM ET
Sutter isn't even married, and he doesn't have any kids.
- classic321


This is accurate, I don't really care personally though. I wasn't sold on Sutter when we got him but IMO he's a gamer and brings a lot of things to the table for a 26 year old pro. I'm happy to have him for his prime, good role model for the kids as he clearly is a "anything to win" type guy.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:28 AM ET
Here's some irony: Sutter would have been Torts favorite player
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:32 AM ET
Sbisa has a big Meat a Balls . He do a fine
- VANTEL

Heya Luca, whya you no make a no more dumb plays, ah?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 25 @ 12:49 AM ET
What a pass from benn to benn tonight.

https://amp.twimg.com/v/b...7b-408d-b0a5-ed3e595946fe
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 25 @ 12:49 AM ET
Heya Luca, whya you no make a no more dumb plays, ah?
- neem55



A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 25 @ 12:53 AM ET
What a pass from benn to benn tonight.

https://amp.twimg.com/v/b...7b-408d-b0a5-ed3e595946fe

- Scooby_Doo

WOW
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 25 @ 12:54 AM ET
WOW
- A_SteamingLombardi


"Double Bennatration"
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 25 @ 12:59 AM ET
"Double Bennatration"
- Scooby_Doo

KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Nov 25 @ 1:15 AM ET
Sutter isn't even married, and he doesn't have any kids.
- classic321




Well, he still earned the right to demand not to be moved to his 4th city in a few years. And demand he did.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Nov 25 @ 1:34 AM ET
"Double Bennatration"
- Scooby_Doo


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