By the way, I would love it if Mario Lemieux delivered a statement saying more or less the following:

"With regard to the suspension recently handed out to Brandon Dubinsky, the NHL Department of Player Safety has made it very clear what the appropriate supplemental discipline is for cross checking a player in the back of the neck and then delivering a cross check hard enough to break a stick across the victim's back when the victim lays on the ice. We, as a member of the NHL, would expect the same discipline if one of our players engaged in the same actions against any other player in the NHL, whether the victim or assailant, be the most marketable player in the league or not. We would like to further announce that we are looking forward to future engagement against the Columbus Blue Jackets, including their star players of Ryan Johansen, Boone Jenner, and Ryan Murray. We will have no further comment on the situation."

By the way, I would love it if Mario Lemieux delivered a statement saying more or less the following:

"With regard to the suspension recently handed out to Brandon Dubinsky, the NHL Department of Player Safety has made it very clear what the appropriate supplemental discipline is for cross checking a player in the back of the neck and then delivering a cross check hard enough to break a stick across the victim's back when the victim lays on the ice. We, as a member of the NHL, would expect the same discipline if one of our players engaged in the same actions against any other player in the NHL, whether the victim or assailant, be the most marketable player in the league or not. We would like to further announce that we are looking forward to future engagement against the Columbus Blue Jackets, including their star players of Ryan Johansen, Boone Jenner, and Ryan Murray. We will have no further comment on the situation."
- jmatchett383

I'm pretty sure Mario has made his last public statement with regards to any condition within the NHL.

By the way, I would love it if Mario Lemieux delivered a statement saying more or less the following:

"With regard to the suspension recently handed out to Brandon Dubinsky, the NHL Department of Player Safety has made it very clear what the appropriate supplemental discipline is for cross checking a player in the back of the neck and then delivering a cross check hard enough to break a stick across the victim's back when the victim lays on the ice. We, as a member of the NHL, would expect the same discipline if one of our players engaged in the same actions against any other player in the NHL, whether the victim or assailant, be the most marketable player in the league or not. We would like to further announce that we are looking forward to future engagement against the Columbus Blue Jackets, including their star players of Ryan Johansen, Boone Jenner, and Ryan Murray. We will have no further comment on the situation."
- jmatchett383

I mean yeah that would be super bad ass in that moment but that would all but ensure that the next meeting against CBJ would be a blood bath with players getting hurt on both sides of the puck. The whole point of this dialogue was to prevent injuries from happening.

I'm pretty sure Mario has made his last public statement with regards to any condition within the NHL.
- madmike71

Well, that is a good point. Plus, that rift with Sid...

But really, I'd love it if the Penguins made that sort of statement.

I mean yeah that would be super bad ass in that moment but that would all but ensure that the next meeting against CBJ would be a blood bath with players getting hurt on both sides of the puck. The whole point of this dialogue was to prevent injuries from happening.
- Victoro311

Yes...which the NHL DPS has made abundantly clear it has no intention of preventing.

I'll use the Steelers as a reference. Ben Roethlisberger (spelling?) is the most abused player in the league. Unlike Tom Brady, the NFL does not call 15-yarders when someone breathes on him. So, teams know they can just tee off on him, and the league does nothing about it.

Remember the game where, on the 2nd play from scrimmage, he got punched in the face and broke his nose and nothing was called? How about, on the first Ravens' play, James Harrison put his helmet right onto Flacco's knee and put him out for the year, then pointed right at the guy who punched Ben and said, "That was for you."

Yes, it creates a bloodbath. But at some point, if the league won't protect your star player, you have to make it known that there will be consequences.

Well, that is a good point. Plus, that rift with Sid...

But really, I'd love it if the Penguins made that sort of statement.
- jmatchett383

The larger context of your point is correct however. That's exactly what the NHL is ENCOURAGING when you suspend a guy for one game. I don't think the Pens go that route, but they should. The roster really isn't built to get involved in one of those types of games.

Personally, I'd call up Sestito to do a little "negative reinforcement" on Dubinsky's head........because that is what the NHL wants.

I still maintain that if you watch the hit it was neither dirty or illegal. Doan's a hard hitter and he lined up Letang for one of his bone crunchers when Tanger still had the puck. By the time Letang got that puck off Doane was already on his way. Maybe he could have let up a bit but at full speed that would have been difficult and Letang tried to get cute and swivel around the hit rather than bracing himself. Maybe it's a bit of a grey are but definitely not suspendable.
- Victoro311

I agree, a tad late but no later than the Stepan hit the other night. I dont think the Steckel hit on Crosby was intentional either, Crosby curled into his path, speckle was moving up ice.

Players get paid a ton of money because fans want to see big hits and the best talent in the world. If you remove too much hitting, the casual fans will drop off. Its part of the game they grew up with. They aren't interested in softening it up. If they were, the Doan and Stepen hit would not have happened.

The larger context of your point is correct however. That's exactly what the NHL is ENCOURAGING when you suspend a guy for one game. I don't think the Pens go that route, but they should. The roster really isn't built to get involved in one of those types of games.

Personally, I'd call up Sestito to do a little "negative reinforcement" on Dubinsky's head........because that is what the NHL wants.
- madmike71

100% all for it

But really though, one of these days a player is going to end up a vegetable. Maybe then the league will change it's ways. But until then, expect more of this type of play league wide.

One more:

http://www.mynhltraderumo...le-spear-and-a-slew-foot/
- TheUltimateJet

what is your point? we already said crosby can do some bad stuff. but he also gets so much harass it is pathetic. all you are doing is coming around as a troll and nobody likes them so go die will ya

I agree, a tad late but no later than the Stepan hit the other night. I dont think the Steckel hit on Crosby was intentional either, Crosby curled into his path, speckle was moving up ice.

Players get paid a ton of money because fans want to see big hits and the best talent in the world. If you remove too much hitting, the casual fans will drop off. Its part of the game they grew up with. They aren't interested in softening it up. If they were, the Doan and Stepen hit would not have happened.
- sammy87

And softening up the NHL isn't what I've ever advocated. I love big hits when they're clean. Watching Orpik lay down the boom stick was one of the best parts of watching the Penguins the last decade or so. If players get injured from a clean hit it's unfortunate but it happens. It's the dirty illegal plays that lead to injuries often that I want got. If guys like Potato want to call me a wussy American because of that then do be it.

100% all for it

But really though, one of these days a player is going to end up a vegetable. Maybe then the league will change it's ways. But until then, expect more of this type of play league wide.
- Pens_Burgh

With everything coming out in the NFL, those guys are already veggies and they dont seem too interested in doing anything about it. Theres still a long list of guys waiting to sign up. I mean they are cool with Wes Welker coming back and the fact that he even wants back is amazing. I dont see the NHL doing anything different.

And softening up the NHL isn't what I've ever advocated. I love big hits when they're clean. Watching Orpik lay down the boom stick was one of the best parts of watching the Penguins the last decade or so. If players get injured from a clean hit it's unfortunate but it happens. It's the dirty illegal plays that lead to injuries often that I want got. If guys like Potato want to call me a wussy American because of that then do be it.
- Victoro311

I agree, but I think the players need to police themselves. Guys like McSorley and Brasher existed for a reason. You just dont see that enforcement any more.

With everything coming out in the NFL, those guys are already veggies and they dont seem too interested in doing anything about it. Theres still a long list of guys waiting to sign up. I mean they are cool with Wes Welker coming back and the fact that he even wants back is amazing. I dont see the NHL doing anything different.
- sammy87

It's actually a huge problem for the NFL and it's only getting bigger. Will Smith is even starring in a movie about it... They've implemented "concussion watchers" or something along those lines. They stand on the sideline and if they see a big hit to the head, or if a player looks woozy they stop play and take the player out and make them go through the concussion protocol.

Welker must either love the game or be broke, one more shot to the head and we'll be reading about him committing suicide in the next 5 years. Also probably 80-85% of the guys going into the NFL literally have no other skill set for a career. Why be a car salesman or sell drugs when you can make millions and hopefully retire early and healthy?

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what is your point? we already said crosby can do some bad stuff. but he also gets so much harass it is pathetic. all you are doing is coming around as a troll and nobody likes them so go die will ya
- martox

I think his point is obvious...Crosby has done so many cheap things in his career that players don't forget. what goes around comes around, Dubi always got in Sid's grill. Sid reaps what he sows. It comes with the Star Player territory. What Dubi did was vicious and deserves suspension.

I agree, but I think the players need to police themselves. Guys like McSorley and Brasher existed for a reason. You just dont see that enforcement any more.
- sammy87

I have no issue with the players policing themselves and enforcing some version of "The Code". As I stated earlier, the instigator rule is garbage and should be done away with. However, enforcing "The Code" is strictly reactionary and only serves to make the locker room and the fans feel like justice was served. It doesn't actually deter anything and causes its own circle of violence when there's nothing else but "The Code" to arbitrate punishment. A locker room full of guys ready to go to war for each other is a great thing, but there should be no need for old style goonish enforcers who's only purpose is to fight players that run their super stars and run other teams' super stars when the opponent is taking liberties because the NHL should be acting as a more effective deterrent by taking chunks out of pay checks

It's actually a huge problem for the NFL and it's only getting bigger. Will Smith is even starring in a movie about it... They've implemented "concussion watchers" or something along those lines. They stand on the sideline and if they see a big hit to the head, or if a player looks woozy they stop play and take the player out and make them go through the concussion protocol.

Welker must either love the game or be broke, one more shot to the head and we'll be reading about him committing suicide in the next 5 years. Also probably 80-85% of the guys going into the NFL literally have no other skill set for a career. Why be a car salesman or sell drugs when you can make millions and hopefully retire early and healthy?


- Pens_Burgh[/img]

LOL that helmet is ridic! Still doesn't stop the brains impact inside the skull. I've heard about "concussion" lots of big names in it. The money might be great, but not worth living a crippled life from 35 on. I know a family member of a famous NFL HOFer QB and the stories are pretty sad how beat down he now is. ESPN did a report on Manning a few weeks ago, dude can't even put on his shoes or pads anymore. Still wants 1 more year though.

BTW it would literally have to take someone dying on the field for the NFL to take it seriously.

I don't understand you, the pathology of what it is to be you. I don't understand dropping all these comments like anyone gives any kind of a $hit what you say. Most of us hate the fact that you even exist and yet here you are every day chiming in like everyone is waiting for your opinion. I have no idea what is going on with the Rangers, not one clue, because I don't care one bit. I'm devoted to one team, well 2 to be honest but the second not near as much. Yet here you are every day saying the same dumb thing in the same dumb order like a broken record of a
Song no one wants to hear playing at half the speed it's supposed to be. What makes you tick? How do you have time to go on Rangers boards and spew your moronic opinions that if they could look like something they would look like a 96 year old, decrepid penis ejaculating some kind of moist dust and blood? And then go places you are hated and share your unwanted opinions with people that despise you? And we can't be the only board that you do this to? Do you do nothing else, do you have nothing else? I come on here when I'm having a few drinks and talk about my team that I have loved for 30 years and tell pukes like you to F off. But you will never catch me on the Rangers board because I hate that team and I don't care anything about them. Talking about Girardi and Marchand, I have no idea what happened. I just don't care. Hopefully they killed eachother in some way because they are both talentless hacks but it's not enough to make me care about them. One time I went on the Oilers one and I'll never do it again, not because of what I said or what they said, truth is I didn't even go back and see if anyone replied. I just don't have time to waste like you apparently do. You need attention, you want to feel special. And here you are still pontificating as if the worlds axis is rotated by your thoughts alone? Why? I don't get you, I can't stand you, but I also don't get why? So go ahead and find a picture with someone else's joke on it and say it's about me. It's a shortcut to thinking and you take a lot of shortcuts. You have nothing else going on in your life? This is it for you? That's sad, and pathetic. Go away, and take potato and epilepsy lights picture with you because no one cares about you.
- Dcoms

ok hardo that explains why you're always sounding like a tough guy

LOL that helmet is ridic! Still doesn't stop the brains impact inside the skull. I've heard about "concussion" lots of big names in it. The money might be great, but not worth living a crippled life from 35 on. I know a family member of a famous NFL HOFer QB and the stories are pretty sad how beat down he now is. ESPN did a report on Manning a few weeks ago, dude can't even put on his shoes or pads anymore. Still wants 1 more year though.
- sammy87

Yeah that helmet isn't stopping anything at all. Maybe it will help give him a mental edge that he'll be more protected, but that's all.



Now imagine head on collisions at full speed with other 6' and over 230-400lb men.

There have been a few guys who have played 1-2 years and retired. Make whatever you can and get out ASAP. Chris Borland from the 49ers is a smart man. He could have been a stud for years to come.

Quick opinion question - DK/Yohe's site - worth the $$ or bunch of homers spouting homerisms?

Quick opinion question - DK/Yohe's site - worth the $$ or bunch of homers spouting homerisms?
- chimpira

I have heard it is worth it but I am extremly carefull with my money so your call

ok hardo that explains why you're always sounding like a tough guy
- mrn22

He's much more calm when he's posting as dcoms77. He musta been dropping a grumpy during that post.

By the way, I would love it if Mario Lemieux delivered a statement saying more or less the following:

"With regard to the suspension recently handed out to Brandon Dubinsky, the NHL Department of Player Safety has made it very clear what the appropriate supplemental discipline is for cross checking a player in the back of the neck and then delivering a cross check hard enough to break a stick across the victim's back when the victim lays on the ice. We, as a member of the NHL, would expect the same discipline if one of our players engaged in the same actions against any other player in the NHL, whether the victim or assailant, be the most marketable player in the league or not. We would like to further announce that we are looking forward to future engagement against the Columbus Blue Jackets, including their star players of Ryan Johansen, Boone Jenner, and Ryan Murray. We will have no further comment on the situation."
- jmatchett383

Mario would never write a letter to the league.

He's much more calm when he's posting as dcoms77. He musta been dropping a grumpy during that post.
- j.boyd919

I've always felt like Dcoms was the reasonable one and dcoms77 was the hardo, but I guess Dcoms was just in a bad mood this time around.

I have heard it is worth it but I am extremly carefull with my money so your call
- martox

And that's a lot of krona!