It's like putting raw meat in a lion's cage
- rangerdanger94

That's how I see it. Remember, us Oilers fans had the ultimate troll blogger, Richard Cloutier , feeding the special education kids sugar for years.

Haven't been watching that closely as I've been on vacation. But it seems like the Pens were a lot more aggressive against EDM than they have been. More stretch passing and more dmen pinching than usual.

"if it weren't sid you would not be talking about it" wääääääää wäääääääääää wäääääääääää all I hear is wäääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääää
- martox

I missed where the blogger titled this blog Oduya assaults Parise. So yeah.

I missed where the blogger titled this blog Oduya assaults Parise. So yeah.
- smellmyfinger

it's a pittsburgh blog...

That Ryan Jabroni does whine and use silly words to exaggerate his position. Like " assault"? Come on....

.....he writes troll bait headlines, so don't be upset when RangerDanger shows up after he posts one of these beauties.
- Jeropotato

What was incorrect about using the word assault to describe any of these actions? If they occurred anywhere else but on an NHL hockey rink they would be facing 7-10 for assault with a deadly weapon but unfortunately the NHL considers them good hockey plays.

And just for reference, their is a local high school playing who has been permanently banned from the league and has a criminal hearing coming in the near future for a very similar play to the one we saw from Oduya last night. If the league isn't going to defend the players they need to start doing it themselves by filing charges against the opposing player when things like those 3 plays occur and watch how fast those plays disappear from the game.

Come on Ryan you are just complaining cus it's Crosby. Plays like this happens 500 times a game.

What was incorrect about using the word assault to describe any of these actions? If they occurred anywhere else but on an NHL hockey rink they would be facing 7-10 for assault with a deadly weapon but unfortunately the NHL considers them good hockey plays.

And just for reference, their is a local high school playing who has been permanently banned from the league and has a criminal hearing coming in the near future for a very similar play to the one we saw from Oduya last night. If the league isn't going to defend the players they need to start doing it themselves by filing charges against the opposing player when things like those 3 plays occur and watch how fast those plays disappear from the game.
- jaydogg1974

Hey man....That's Hockey.....or it least is was when it was a man's game before Bettman decided to make the game more appealing to the American audience.

Hey man....That's Hockey.....or it least is was when it was a man's game before Bettman decided to make the game more appealing to the American audience.
- Jeropotato

if gretzky was on the reciving edge of that instead of sid I think you would react too

if gretzky was on the reciving edge of that instead of sid I think you would react too
- martox

Actually, this guy would have, which is why the instigator penalty sucks.

if gretzky was on the reciving edge of that instead of sid I think you would react too
- martox

Wouldn't happen. There was no instigator rule ( created because polls showed American viewers found the game too violent). Semenko or McSorely ensured that everyone know there was a price to pay.

Actually, this guy would have, which is why the instigator penalty sucks.


- smellmyfinger

100 % Bubba, you are the real.

@rangerdanger you have got to be the most annoying poster on here. Have you nothing better to do then come on a pens blog and troll.

Get a life. Take a long walk off a short pier please.

Right,

Yeah, Dubinsky intentionally cross-checked Crosby in a 0-0 game in front of the CBJ goal, and it may have kept Crosby out of one shift in the game. Pens followers, please stop crying about this, you're better than this.

@rangerdanger you have got to be the most annoying poster on here. Have you nothing better to do then come on a pens blog and troll.

Get a life. Take a long walk off a short pier please.
- pensfan024

I actually think he's one of the best posters on this site.....and you need him during international tournaments. He's the best you have.

Right,

Yeah, Dubinsky intentionally cross-checked Crosby in a 0-0 game in front of the CBJ goal, and it may have kept Crosby out of one shift in the game. Pens followers, please stop crying about this, you're better than this.
- jkumpire

I don't really care about the cross check but I find it amusing seeing a CBJ fan say "you're better than this." I guess your fan base would know this best.

"The stretch pass is also easier for lesser skilled defensemen as it is less time they have to handle the puck and make quick accurate passes in unison with other players."

This is counter-intuitive RW. Instead of an easier/shorter pass to a team-mate, you're suggested lesser skilled players are then somehow competent enough to string a tape-to-tape pass over a much greater distance.

"It's almost as if the players don't really care about these one or two games suspensions the league hands out. The Department of Player Safety is completely failing at their one intended reason for existence."

News Flash - players don't care and neither should we. For decades, the NHL was widely successful as a self-policing league; remove the instigator and F "Player Safety Office". You pointed out a failure of the current system. Dub's 1-game, cost him $31K, but failed to deter OTHER players from engaging in similar behavior. This is the players don't care angle. If Dub's was forced to drop the gloves and got his faced bashed-in however, it could possibly change his mind going forward. Retribution pays off.

Unfortunately, the goon mentality of the NHL does not help grow the game to casual fans in Amer. How savage. Don't like it; don't watch it.

I actually think he's one of the best posters on this site.....and you need him during international tournaments. He's the best you have.
- Jeropotato

You aren't any better. And why exactly is he needed? Is he gonna coach the US team in international tournaments?

Right,

Yeah, Dubinsky intentionally cross-checked Crosby in a 0-0 game in front of the CBJ goal, and it may have kept Crosby out of one shift in the game. Pens followers, please stop crying about this, you're better than this.
- jkumpire

If it was accidental then why did he proceed to cross check him 3 more times while he was laying defenseless on the ice? Seriously that was the dumbest post I've seen on the subject yet.

"The stretch pass is also easier for lesser skilled defensemen as it is less time they have to handle the puck and make quick accurate passes in unison with other players."

This is counter-intuitive RW. Instead of an easier/shorter pass to a team-mate, you're suggested lesser skilled players are then somehow competent enough to string a tape-to-tape pass over a much greater distance.

"It's almost as if the players don't really care about these one or two games suspensions the league hands out. The Department of Player Safety is completely failing at their one intended reason for existence."

News Flash - players don't care and neither should we. For decades, the NHL was widely successful as a self-policing league; remove the instigator and F "Player Safety Office". You pointed out a failure of the current system. Dub's 1-game, cost him $31K, but failed to deter OTHER players from engaging in similar behavior. This is the players don't care angle. If Dub's was forced to drop the gloves and got his faced bashed-in however, it could possibly change his mind going forward. Retribution pays off.

Unfortunately, the goon mentality of the NHL does not help grow the game to casual fans in Amer. How savage. Don't like it; don't watch it.
- out_of_market

The mentality of the players has changed and removing the instagitor is pointless, you can't force a player to drop the gloves so a player like Dubinsky will still run wild and will simply refuse to drop the gloves when confronted, he'll turtle if a guy throws anyway and will laugh his ass of as that guy heads to the box and his team gains an advantage. We saw this during that exact game when Hornqvist ran Calvert with an unnecessary hit and then refuse to go when several guys including Calvert challenged him.

The only thing that is going to deter players is heavy hits to their check books, losing 31K going to deter a player like Dubinsky who gets paid millions to do exactly what he did but 20 games and 600k will certainly open his eyes.

What was incorrect about using the word assault to describe any of these actions? If they occurred anywhere else but on an NHL hockey rink they would be facing 7-10 for assault with a deadly weapon but unfortunately the NHL considers them good hockey plays.
- jaydogg1974

Yes...and if you ran up to some random guy on the street and ran him over with a shoulder to the chest, you'd get locked up for aggravated assault.

I'm not forgiving Dubinsky, Oduya, or other random guy or saying the Dubi suspension was fair. Simply stating that actions that are arrestable offenses off-ice are allowable on-ice. Different set of rules (to an extent). Lastly, I don't think a "good hockey play" is usually followed up by a suspension, so the NHL didn't deem the Dubi cross-check a "good hockey play."

Hey man....That's Hockey.....or it least is was when it was a man's game before Bettman decided to make the game more appealing to the American audience.
- Jeropotato

I'm sorry I thought hockey was skating, passing, shooting and checking, I've been around the sport a long time and have been blessed enough to meet many great hockey minds in my life and not 1 of them ever told me attacking an opposing player with your stick was a good hockey play.

That Malkin goal made me nut
- rangerdanger94

That was insane!

The mentality of the players has changed and removing the instagitor is pointless, you can't force a player to drop the gloves so a player like Dubinsky will still run wild and will simply refuse to drop the gloves when confronted, he'll turtle if a guy throws anyway and will laugh his ass of as that guy heads to the box and his team gains an advantage. We saw this during that exact game when Hornqvist ran Calvert with an unnecessary hit and then refuse to go when several guys including Calvert challenged him.

The only thing that is going to deter players is heavy hits to their check books, losing 31K going to deter a player like Dubinsky who gets paid millions to do exactly what he did but 20 games and 600k will certainly open his eyes.
- jaydogg1974

Bullpoop. Remember when Boyle was running/punching Erik Karlsson in game 1 of the playoffs a few years back? The next game, Matt Carkner went out, grabbed Boyle and just unloaded on him (Dubi got thrown out as a 3rd man in). Oddly enough, Boyle stopped going after EK for the rest of the series. Must have been a strange coincidence.

I'm sorry I thought hockey was skating, passing, shooting and checking, I've been around the sport a long time and have been blessed enough to meet many great hockey minds in my life and not 1 of them ever told me attacking an opposing player with your stick was a good hockey play.
- jaydogg1974

Don Cherry would approve as long as the attacker is Canadian.

You aren't any better. And why exactly is he needed? Is he gonna coach the US team in international tournaments?
- jfkst1

He's good at battling gloating trolls when Canada is laying the usual beating on the US team.
I respect him as a rival.