Do you think Linden and Benning still think this team is contender for a playoff spot?


- PetrolSexual

They are well past it. Even the Aguafeenis will come around on drafting/developing.

No choice.

The Canucks are in big trouble. As I type this, they are down 5-1 against the Wild. The Canucks are failing everywhere, from goaltending to scoring to face-offs. Injuries are not the issue here. Consistency is the problem; from management to the players.

Benning needs to blow this team up. This "re-tooling on the fly" concept isn't working. Yes, the Canucks would like to win now when they have the Sedins still in good form. I don't think they necessarily have to do a full rebuild (that will come after the Sedins retire), but maybe the remainder of this season could be a mini, interim rebuild. Trades need to happen. I have been saying for at least 2 years now that Edler needs to be traded. So does Higgins. And maybe Vrbata and Markstrom. I don't really care for the potential of bringing in Luke Schenn. That rumour has been around for years. I would love to bring in someone like Flyers dman Shayne Gostisbehere or Sabres centreman Sam Reinhart. Other targets could include Canes centre Victor Rask &

Definitely Trade:
----------------------------
1) Edler
2) Higgins
3) Baertschi
4) Burrows
5) Weber
6) Vey
7) Fedun

Possibly Trade:
---------------------------
1) Markstrom
2) Vrbata
3) Jensen
4) Dorsett
5) Jones
6) Gaunce

Targets:
----------------
1) D - Gostisbehere (PHI)
2) C - Reinhart (BUF)
3) C - Rask (CAR)
4) D - Martinez (LAK)
5) D - Faulk (CAR)
6) W - Boedker (ARI)
7) W - Zibanejad (OTT)
8) G - Raanta (NYR)

I hope after tonight they put Higgins on waivers

Do you think Linden and Benning still think this team is contender for a playoff spot?


- PetrolSexual

No

I'd sign stamkos guy just needs someone to get him the puck

That's an opinion I've heard quite a bit, here is my thought. I watched Greztz and Lemiuex, but not Orr. Gretz and Lemieux were unreal, no doubt. But the goaltending was atrocious, let's be honest. I think that the game has never been as skilled, big and fast as it is now. I know it's hard to say, but I honestly think those guys get half the amount of points in today's game.
- neem55

The goaltending was good for the times, those guys just made it look worse than it was. Everything about today's games is better, they were just ahead of the curve.

The Canucks are in big trouble. As I type this, they are down 5-1 against the Wild. The Canucks are failing everywhere, from goaltending to scoring to face-offs. Injuries are not the issue here. Consistency is the problem; from management to the players.

Benning needs to blow this team up. This "re-tooling on the fly" concept isn't working. Yes, the Canucks would like to win now when they have the Sedins still in good form. I don't think they necessarily have to do a full rebuild (that will come after the Sedins retire), but maybe the remainder of this season could be a mini, interim rebuild. Trades need to happen. I have been saying for at least 2 years now that Edler needs to be traded. So does Higgins. And maybe Vrbata and Markstrom. I don't really care for the potential of bringing in Luke Schenn. That rumour has been around for years. I would love to bring in someone like Flyers dman Shayne Gostisbehere or Sabres centreman Sam Reinhart. Other targets could include Canes centre Victor Rask &

Definitely Trade:
----------------------------
1) Edler
2) Higgins
3) Baertschi
4) Burrows
5) Weber
6) Vey
7) Fedun

Possibly Trade:
---------------------------
1) Markstrom
2) Vrbata
3) Jensen
4) Dorsett
5) Jones
6) Gaunce

Targets:
----------------
1) D - Gostisbehere (PHI)
2) C - Reinhart (BUF)
3) C - Rask (CAR)
4) D - Martinez (LAK)
5) D - Faulk (CAR)
6) W - Boedker (ARI)
7) W - Zibanejad (OTT)
8) G - Raanta (NYR)
- monsmaark

This team cannot be fixed through trades.
You demonstrated that perfectly with both the "Definitely Trade" and "Possibly Trade" lists. No depth, no assets (outside the ones we can't afford to move).

Draft, develop. Outside of Gaunce who we should keep, best we can hope for is picks and outcast projects.

The Canucks are in big trouble. As I type this, they are down 5-1 against the Wild. The Canucks are failing everywhere, from goaltending to scoring to face-offs. Injuries are not the issue here. Consistency is the problem; from management to the players.

Benning needs to blow this team up. This "re-tooling on the fly" concept isn't working. Yes, the Canucks would like to win now when they have the Sedins still in good form. I don't think they necessarily have to do a full rebuild (that will come after the Sedins retire), but maybe the remainder of this season could be a mini, interim rebuild. Trades need to happen. I have been saying for at least 2 years now that Edler needs to be traded. So does Higgins. And maybe Vrbata and Markstrom. I don't really care for the potential of bringing in Luke Schenn. That rumour has been around for years. I would love to bring in someone like Flyers dman Shayne Gostisbehere or Sabres centreman Sam Reinhart. Other targets could include Canes centre Victor Rask &

Definitely Trade:
----------------------------
1) Edler
2) Higgins
3) Baertschi
4) Burrows
5) Weber
6) Vey
7) Fedun

Possibly Trade:
---------------------------
1) Markstrom
2) Vrbata
3) Jensen
4) Dorsett
5) Jones
6) Gaunce

Targets:
----------------
1) D - Gostisbehere (PHI)
2) C - Reinhart (BUF)
3) C - Rask (CAR)
4) D - Martinez (LAK)
5) D - Faulk (CAR)
6) W - Boedker (ARI)
7) W - Zibanejad (OTT)
8) G - Raanta (NYR)
- monsmaark

You want a rebuild, but trading away prospects, sure Baertchi hasnt been lighting the lamp but what canuck has other then sedins

If we get first pick, I'm all for Matthews. You don't pass up on generational guys, even if they are from pheonix.

Edit: if we won the lotto though, I wouldn't mind sending Matthews to Nashville for Jones+
- neem55

Flames and Sharks move ahead of Canucks tonight

The goaltending was good for the times, those guys just made it look worse than it was. Everything about today's games is better, they were just ahead of the curve.
- LeftCoaster

Maybe, or maybe 10-20 guys getting 50 goal seasons was just a reflection of awful and less trained goaltending that relied on reflexes and athleticism much more. That's the position that has evolved the most, not to mention the size of the pads, the attention to detail for goalies in terms of position/watching tape ect. is just way beyond anything in the 80/early 90's IMO

Do you think Linden and Benning still think this team is contender for a playoff spot?


- PetrolSexual

They think what FA tells them to think.

Markstrom played well. Goalie controversy?

They think what FA tells them to think.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Maybe, or maybe 10-20 guys getting 50 goal seasons was just a reflection of awful and less trained goaltending that relied on reflexes and athleticism much more. That's the position that has evolved the most, not to mention the size of the pads, the attention to detail for goalies in terms of position/watching tape ect. is just way beyond anything in the 80/early 90's IMO
- neem55

Listen, if Steve Yzerman, Joe Sakic, Mark Messier, Mike Bossy and Ramond Bourque aren't generational talents, then guys like Stamkos aren't even in the same ballpark.

It's really a matter of systems play and attention to detail in terms of playing a 200 foot game.

Losing sucks....for the first time in my life I feel for the Leafs, because they've sucked for my whole life

Avs just went up 3-0 with two minutes to play, the streak looks to be over.

Avs just went up 3-0 with two minutes to play, the streak looks to be over.
- LeftCoaster

Over

Over
- VANTEL

Yup...

We are now in 25 th

We are now in 25 th
- VANTEL

Is that good?

Is that good?
- LeftCoaster

Yes only 2 pts out of 28 th

Why is Doormat such a D bag?

Over
- VANTEL

I love it!

Anyone want to join me in the Hawks thread?

Yes only 2 pts out of 28 th
- VANTEL

Think Miller would go to Arizona for Lindback+
Thatd help vans tanking chances