I think Sedins Burr Hamhuis and Edler are the only ones with Full NTC /NMC .
- VANTEL

Vantel....it's still really hard to move players of Higgins and Burrows ilk in this cap world, you need a buyer! You always make it sound like it's as simple as a flick of a switch, it absolutely is not.

At the trade deadline someone might take a flyer on Higgins but I guarantee you'll have to eat some money or take money back.

Hey I'd love it if every thing just fell into place, but it rarely does. In my opinion Bo and McCann are at the very least four years from realizing their potential, I just think it takes that long.

The key is to get rid of some older contracts, or let them expire, and make some good signings. While still drafting well.
- LeftCoaster

I agree with most of this but you can try to nudge some of them out the door a little sooner

Correct, and I am sure Burrows and Hammer could be convinced to waive.
- Retinalz

Moving Hamhuis and Vrbata is a no-brainer, Burrows, with one year left at 4.5 million, will be extremely difficult to move.

Vantel....it's still really hard to move players of Higgins and Burrows ilk in this cap world, you need a buyer! You always make it sound like it's as simple as a flick of a switch, it absolutely is not.

At the trade deadline someone might take a flyer on Higgins but I guarantee you'll have to eat some money or take money back.
- LeftCoaster

Higgins is simple and has been suggested over and over here and in MSM , put him on waivers.

Burrows is harder .

I agree with most of this but you can try to nudge some of them out the door a little sooner
- VANTEL

You know I'm all for it, I just think it's a lot harder than you make it out to be.

Just to set the record straight . I mentioned Ladd as an example. I don't expect him on this roster next year. His name is coming up a lot today . I used his name because he is a leader and good team mate.
- VANTEL

And I keep using it because I see him as a good fit for helping our young guys a long. Though w/o a full list of upcoming and likely UFA's next year I wouldn't have anyone else to suggest. I would prefer Ladd to Lucic if similar money/term. Ladd may be a bit older, but more of what we need to help youth. I think Ladd(or someone like him) could teach players like JV a lot about being an NHLer and could help develop properly.

Higgins is simple and has been suggested over and over here and in MSM , put him on waivers.

Burrows is harder .
- VANTEL

Even waiving him means you have 1.6 million in dead cap space for next year, not good for business when I'd like then to sign guys like Ladd or Lucic.

And I keep using it because I see him as a good fit for helping our young guys a long. Though w/o a full list of upcoming and likely UFA's next year I wouldn't have anyone else to suggest. I would prefer Ladd to Lucic if similar money/term. Ladd may be a bit older, but more of what we need to help youth. I think Ladd(or someone like him) could teach players like JV a lot about being an NHLer and could help develop properly.
- Retinalz

http://www.generalfanager...FA=1&freeagents_length=25

Even waiving him means you have 1.6 million in dead cap space for next year, not good for business when I'd like then to sign guys like Ladd or Lucic.
- LeftCoaster

It gives Gaunce his roster spot . Same salary as keeping Higgins

It gives Gaunce his roster spot . Same salary as keeping Higgins
- VANTEL

maybe we end up buying him out in the summer or trade and eat salary next season?

It gives Gaunce his roster spot . Same salary as keeping Higgins
- VANTEL

Yes it does, and I think he's earned a better look. I'm hoping they can move Higgins even if it's for a 5th round pick and they eat a bit of salary.

maybe we end up buying him out in the summer or trade and eat salary next season?
- hillbillydeluxe

Higgins or Burrows?

Yes it does, and I think he's earned a better look. I'm hoping they can move Higgins even if it's for a 5th round pick and they eat a bit of salary.
- LeftCoaster

Best scenario

maybe we end up buying him out in the summer or trade and eat salary next season?
- hillbillydeluxe

Actually costs us more than it saves. we save 900k putting him in Utica and we only save 850k buying him out, only we put that cap hit over 2 years instead of 1

Edit: Higgins

Daniel Henrik Hansen
Ladd/Lucic Sutter Baertschi
Shinkaruk Horvat Virtanen
Gaunce McCann Grenier

Not a Cup wing team but competitive.

Best scenario
- VANTEL

I'd even trade for a 7th

Daniel Henrik Hansen
Ladd/Lucic Sutter Baertschi
Shinkaruk Horvat Virtanen
Gaunce McCann Grenier

Not a Cup wing team but competitive.
- LeftCoaster

Nice tweak. Prefer Ladd over Lucic with this but I would take it. 4th may have issues though, but nothing less play time in tight situations couldn't remedy.

Daniel Henrik Hansen
Ladd/Lucic Sutter Baertschi
Shinkaruk Horvat Virtanen
Gaunce McCann Grenier

Not a Cup wing team but competitive.
- LeftCoaster

I think Sutter should be with the twins. He lets them concentrate on scoring. He can handle the face offs and take care of the D end coverage. Let the twins hang out at the blue line.

Higgins or Burrows?
- VANTEL

I was thinking Higgins... Burrows I still have a little hope for, regarding trade value.

http://www.generalfanager.com/freeagents?expiryyear=2016&position=All&shoots=Both&team=all&RFA=1&UFA=1&freeagents_length=25
- VANTEL

Think Demers would be available to play RHD in #4/5/6 roll next year?

I was thinking Higgins... Burrows I still have a little hope for, regarding trade value.
- hillbillydeluxe

Not worth buying out Higgins . Then you have cap hit two years instead of 1

Think Demers would be available to play RHD in #4/5/6 roll next year?
- Retinalz

Dallas have a few UFAs next year..

Higgins is simple and has been suggested over and over here and in MSM , put him on waivers.

Burrows is harder .
- VANTEL

Putting him on waivers doesn't solve any problems

You would only get 900k relief of his 2.5m salary, and you would have to pay another player, who would probably count more then 900k against the cap. In the end you may end up with a worse player and a higher cap hit.

Burrows actual salary is 3 million next year, which may make it easier to move him...just food for thought.

Dallas have a few UFAs next year..
- VANTEL

I wouldn't mind getting Demers or Benn from them. Sign one of(in this order) Stamkos, Kopitar, Okposo, Boedker, Ladd, Staal(If he'd take a contract based off of his play in recent years instead of his name), Eriksson. For Defense Buf(if good price tag) otherwise Demers, Benn, Schenn. If we could trade Miller and sign Reimer .