Aah. Gotcha. Yeah, never expected the NHL to give us Connor
- walshyleafsfan

Too many fights for top minutes between Stamkos and McDavid

Tallon took over a team ripe for good picks. Benning took over a team on its last legs, this was gonna happen regardless of his best efforts to prolong their compete cycle.

For the Canucks there's just simply nothing there, no vets outside of the twins and Edler, no prospects outside of the 2013 draft onward...not much to work with.
- LeftCoaster

i wholeheartedly agree, I just don't think that trading any of the vets we have or all them is tanking. I think that is just good management at this point as this team is far from contending.

I'd say it started by firing their coach while in a playoff position, then shipping out anything of value for a pick.
- golfingsince

The coach that's still unemployed? I think history shows that the Leafs collapsed annually, so whether they should've waited two games till they were 9th is neither here nor there. They traded guys on expiring deals. All of them had expiring deals. It's not uncommon for a team to trade role players on expiring deals away. A solid tank would've involved trading away JVR, Bozak, Gardiner, Kadri and Polak.

Aah. Gotcha. Yeah, never expected the NHL to give us Connor
- walshyleafsfan

Really, Buffalo did.

You said that if you are selling off vets for picks that is tanking. Both Col and Fla have done that
- VANTEL

To what extent? I'd have to go back and look but I don't remember them selling every possible asset.

The Flames sold off Glencross last year at the TDL, where they tanking....no.

i wholeheartedly agree, I just don't think that trading any of the vets we have or all them is tanking. I think that is just good management at this point as this team is far from contending.
- neem55

Too many fights for top minutes between Stamkos and McDavid
- VANTEL

They'd both be behind Bozak either way

To what extent? I'd have to go back and look but I don't remember them selling every possible asset.

The Flames sold off Glencross last year at the TDL, where they tanking....no.
- LeftCoaster

When they sold off Iginla and asked kiper to waive they were

i wholeheartedly agree, I just don't think that trading any of the vets we have or all them is tanking. I think that is just good management at this point as this team is far from contending.
- neem55

Exactly, it's just good asset management. Selling the Sedins, Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Vrbata etc is tanking.

We both know they would have sold more if the right deals were there. The point is they are selling, not buying. Same with the Kessel deal how many roster players? 0. If they could trade Phaneuf, the most overpaid 4th d-man in the league, they would.
- neem55

How many roster players did we get for Kessel? (I assume that's the question)

2 -Spalling and Harrington (until we got Corrado). So now 1.

To what extent? I'd have to go back and look but I don't remember them selling every possible asset.

The Flames sold off Glencross last year at the TDL, where they tanking....no.
- LeftCoaster

First of all our vets besides the Twins really aren't assets.

I doubt if anyone is interested in Burrows or Higgins

I think there is mild interest in Vrbata Prust Weber Bart or Hamhuis. If we sell two we will be lucky

When they sold off Iginla and asked kiper to waive they were
- neem55

Kipper was retiring and Iginla was asset management, I know it's splitting hairs but it's a fine line for me.

Exactly, it's just good asset management. Selling the Sedins, Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Vrbata etc is tanking.
- LeftCoaster

But selling half of them is good management?

Really, Buffalo did.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Buffalo expected the NHL to give Toronto Conner?

First of all our vets besides the Twins really aren't assets.

I doubt if anyone is interested in Burrows or Higgins

I think there is mild interest in Vrbata Presto Weber Bart or Hamhuis. If we sell two we will be lucky
- VANTEL

I never mention them, I mentioned our good players.

Exactly, it's just good asset management. Selling the Sedins, Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Vrbata etc is tanking.
- LeftCoaster

Agreed. But you guys are tanking anyway right?

Kipper was retiring and Iginla was asset management, I know it's splitting hairs but it's a fine line for me.
- LeftCoaster

Kipper was a 3rd string goalie until he hit Calgary. Agreed good asset management.

I never mention them, I mentioned our good players.
- LeftCoaster

Tank You very much.

How many roster players did we get for Kessel? (I assume that's the question)

2 -Spalling and Harrington (until we got Corrado). So now 1.
- walshyleafsfan

See you are tanking

Kipper was retiring and Iginla was asset management, I know it's splitting hairs but it's a fine line for me.
- LeftCoaster

Shouldn't be any fine line old timer

We are not good enough , dump all the garbage you can and reload in the summer.

We are a bad team .

But selling half of them is good management?
- A_SteamingLombardi

No, selling expiring contracts is good management. Daniel, Henrik, Edler and Tanev don't fit that category.

i wholeheartedly agree, I just don't think that trading any of the vets we have or all them is tanking. I think that is just good management at this point as this team is far from contending.
- neem55

It really depends on if those guys can help you moving forward and what kind of return you get.

A guy like Hamhuis if he'll resign is going to help much more than a late 2nd round pick.

Agreed. But you guys are tanking anyway right?
- walshyleafsfan

No...we just have a poopty GM.

See you are tanking
- A_SteamingLombardi

Mike won't play him cos he's anti tank.

I hope you guys get a 2nd for Vrbata because PAP would return a top 10 pick.

First of all our vets besides the Twins really aren't assets.

I doubt if anyone is interested in Burrows or Higgins

I think there is mild interest in Vrbata Prust Weber Bart or Hamhuis. If we sell two we will be lucky
- VANTEL

Is that JB's fault? No he was handcuffed coming into the job with many sh!t contracts. Hamhuis and Vrbata will garner interest. Prust might possible go back to Montreal for the pick we sent with Kassian. Weber and Bart are washes.