Thats exactly what I said in my post Earlier. Vrbata is worth a 2nd and Hammer is worth a third. There is no way either will draw a first no matter how drunk the GM is. Hammer's value I would say slightly trumps Bieksa's at this point last year. I don't think they are players worthy of letting go for nothing, or letting go for 5th rounders, but in no way are they worth 1st round picks or multiple picks by any stretch.
- Codes1087

Your posts about our players value are purely idiotic. Hammer is worth much more than Bieksa any day. Defensive den are heavily needed in playoffs. You think Vrbata is worth more than Hammer? Put down the pipe. You have had enough. Feel free to respond to this but I am done responding and reading garbage posts.

This is probably true, except if that GM has been watching Canucks games and notices that he is second in powerplay goals and first in game winning goals this year for a pretty bad team. I think playing with Sedins makes anyone look pretty good though, and agree with you that he is a versatile 3rd liner. Could be a valuable part of a package though, Last year Franson/Santorelli did fetch a first. Hammer/Hansen? Hammer/Prust(god I hope this second one)
- neem55

According to NHL stats, Hansen has only 1 career powerplay goal. He was quoted I think by Botchford recently as saying he never asks to be on the PP because he is happy with his icetime and knows that there are many more players with high skill levels than him

Undervalue/ overvalue? We will find out in a few weeks what other GMs think of our roster.

Ryan Johansen traded.

Now we can stop with those rumors.

According to NHL stats, Hansen has only 1 career powerplay goal. He was quoted I think by Botchford recently as saying he never asks to be on the PP because he is happy with his icetime and knows that there are many more players with high skill levels than him
- WhiteLie

Right-o he's second in even strength, my bad. Either way, you see my point.

RJ for Seth done

RJ for Seth done
- VANTEL

where is this coming from?

The way you under value our players is amazing. Worse players have gotten more in years past.
- Retinalz

The way you over value our players is amazing.

Ryan Johansen traded.

Now we can stop with those rumors.



- classic321

Good trade for both teams

That's it boys trade away all those big names now . This way when TDL comes along and no one left to move , the mighty Higgins will be looking pretty sweet.

RJ for Seth done
- VANTEL

Good deal for both teams but I can't believe Columbus gave up on Johansen so quick after two good seasons….the Torts effect.

I used to like them, but now I hope they fumble around for the next 50 years without a Cup appearance, just like the Leafs.

RJ for Seth done
- VANTEL

Nashville just got scary. Good deal for both teams. Bad deal for 28 other teams!

RJ for Seth done
- VANTEL

LA/Nashville WCF, book it. Whoever wins that series wins the Cup.

Good deal for both teams but I can't believe Columbus gave up on Johansen so quick after two good seasons….the Torts effect.

I used to like them, but now I hope they fumble around for the next 50 years without a Cup appearance, just like the Leafs.
- LeftCoaster

We need Torts back here

Nashville needs scoring Vrbata for 2nd+3rd and Hammer to Mt for 2x2nds. Burrows who knows. Rangers don't have cap unless we take a salary back.
- Retinalz

They've addressed some of that I believe

Your posts about our players value are purely idiotic. Hammer is worth much more than Bieksa any day. Defensive den are heavily needed in playoffs. You think Vrbata is worth more than Hammer? Put down the pipe. You have had enough. Feel free to respond to this but I am done responding and reading garbage posts.
- Retinalz

Have a Snicker's.

Ek got a RUMOR right

Ek got a RUMOR right
- VANTEL

e(5)

We need Torts back here
- VANTEL

Flagged.

They've addressed some of that I believe
- walshyleafsfan

RJ is decent but he's no Vrbata

Have a Snicker's.
- Marwood

Flagged.
- Marwood

The way you over value our players is amazing.
- Marwood

My value is closer to the consensus. Most Van fans value them there. Fans from other teams offer around there or more on trade forums. But we won't know true value until they are traded. If at all.

They've addressed some of that I believe
- walshyleafsfan

Yes. My post was before the trade.

General Fanager reporting Lecavallier won't be subject to recapture fines. That rule only applies to contracts signed in 2012. Vinnys contract was 2013