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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jan 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
Why should playoff results matter for goalies and not skaters? Especially when considering regular season awards?
- BINGO!


Logically, you are absolutely correct.

But reputations do matter. And they matter in Vezina voting. They matter to a degree in a lot of NHL awards. Should they? No. But they do to a degree..

ALL I was saying was a general statement about how Lu is perceived.

Honest.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
Logically, you are absolutely correct.

But reputations do matter. And they matter in Vezina voting. They matter to a degree in a lot of NHL awards. Should they? No. But they do to a degree..

ALL I was saying was a general statement about how Lu is perceived.

Honest.

- John Jaeckel


I agree with that. There is east biased voting when it comes to awards. Lu should have won it in 2006-07 season, lost by 8 votes to brodeur.

Lu should have also won the Hart that year but thats a different argument.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jan 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
I agree with that. There is east biased voting when it comes to awards. Lu should have won it in 2006-07 season, lost by 8 votes to brodeur.

Lu should have also won the Hart that year but thats a different argument.

- SRam19



I would agree, he is better than his reputation.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jan 26 @ 1:32 PM ET
Logically, you are absolutely correct.

But reputations do matter. And they matter in Vezina voting. They matter to a degree in a lot of NHL awards. Should they? No. But they do to a degree..

ALL I was saying was a general statement about how Lu is perceived.

Honest.

- John Jaeckel



So Stamkos should never win anything for the regular season then... If we are basing this off of reputation in the playoffs.
TheRollingPuck
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "All things considered (defense) I'd put a prime Kunitz on par with one way kessel."
Joined: 04.10.2010

Jan 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
Crawford
Luongo
Schneider
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Midseason Vezina Favorite?
- ToddCordellVAN

no love for Mrazek?


perhaps most under-rated goalie in nhl right now
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jan 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
CC is a 2 time Cup winner.. A 2 time Jennings winner and is leading the league in shutouts and yet... no AS game invite and not really being talked about for the Vezina. Its being bantered about in here but not in the real NHL circles. Thats fine... all it does is motivate him.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 26 @ 3:17 PM ET
holtby 2.01 gaa .930 save %
crawford 2.08 gaa .932 save %
luongo 2.11 gaa .930 save %
schneider 2.03 gaa .928 save %
mrazek 2.03 gaaa .932 save %
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 26 @ 3:19 PM ET
CC is a 2 time Cup winner.. A 2 time Jennings winner and is leading the league in shutouts and yet... no AS game invite and not really being talked about for the Vezina. Its being bantered about in here but not in the real NHL circles. Thats fine... all it does is motivate him.
- z1990z

SteveJ123
New Jersey Devils
Location: Tedenby over Carlson every single time - David Conte, NJ
Joined: 08.22.2014

Jan 26 @ 3:28 PM ET
Similar to every player, different teams= different players contribution. I'm sure if you put Schneider on the Hawks, he would be doing the same if not better than CC. I'm not so sure how Crawford would be doing on the Devils. But that's just my opinion. Obviously CS could be trash on the hawks, I mean who knows, I just think he'd be dirty considering how he's playing on a team clearly much worse than the Hawks. I'm just happy Schneider is being mentioned, he certainly deserves to be involved.
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jan 26 @ 3:44 PM ET
I'm sorry, but not to mention Holtby is simply criminal.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 26 @ 3:53 PM ET
Nazem Kadri
MrBeanTown
Boston Bruins
Location: Garth blogs make me regret my literacy, NF
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 26 @ 3:57 PM ET
Nazem Kadri
- sbroads24


Calm down, Tanner
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jan 26 @ 4:18 PM ET
So Stamkos should never win anything for the regular season then... If we are basing this off of reputation in the playoffs.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



No, man, LOL, all I said was reputation can play into the voting, not that it should, relax.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:20 PM ET
holtby 2.01 gaa .930 save %
crawford 2.08 gaa .932 save %
luongo 2.11 gaa .930 save %
schneider 2.03 gaa .928 save %
mrazek 2.03 gaaa .932 save %

- homiedclown

No love for James Reimer?
Yeah yeah, I know, he won't win. But still, those numbers are pretty good
1.97gaa
.937sv%

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:23 PM ET
no love for Mrazek?


perhaps most under-rated goalie in nhl right now

- homiedclown

Mrazek is 16-1-1 when his team scores more than 1 goal.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:23 PM ET
No, man, LOL, all I said was reputation can play into the voting, not that it should, relax.
- John Jaeckel



Just giving you a hard time
camfor
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Complete mis-use of stats, Is now called the Jimmy "T" special.
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jan 26 @ 5:53 PM ET
Tanner,
You are out to lunch on the Panthers being a 5-6 man team!
They are what the Oilers should strive to be!
conkey
Location: except it, NS
Joined: 09.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 8:37 PM ET
Right. Got it. Thanks.

It was really more a comment on Lu in general, specifically "Underrated goalie for sure but often underperforms in the playoffs."

Not this year, since the playoffs haven't happened yet. And they don't matter as far as the Vezina, in theory, but in reality, as everyone knows, reputations do matter.

- John Jaeckel

well maybe there's a thread where that's what the blog is about.
Bigern4MVP
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 05.08.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
ramo
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:44 PM ET
Victor Hedman. He is going to win save of the year, too.
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