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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 31 @ 9:16 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Couturier to IR, ASG, All-Decade 3-on-3, Phantoms, Prospects, Alumni & More
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 9:23 AM ET
My sweet Coots.

Playoffs are really unlikely now with this development. Time to put some D men on the block.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 31 @ 9:23 AM ET
cooter.
I hope he has a speedy recovery for whatever his injury is (thank you nhl specificity).
redcoat75
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jan 31 @ 9:27 AM ET
No offense Bill, but Ghost, Giroux, Voracek would destroy any of your other 3-3 combos.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 31 @ 9:30 AM ET
This is so not an elite newsbreak
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 31 @ 9:35 AM ET
Couturier out for more than 5-6 games likely means that we are looking at a top 10 pick, and perhaps top 3 if we get some luck. As long as he can be 100% by the start of next season, I can live with it. They weren't going anywhere this season anyway.
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jan 31 @ 9:37 AM ET
I was at the latest Phantoms game against the little penguins. Hagg never has impressed me, and he just continues to look mediocre at best. Morin seems a ways off from the NHL as well. Not as physical as I'd like to see. MacDonald got out muscled numerous times. Cousins and Leier impressed me with their play. I really couldn't stand the fact that the team allowed a useless POS named Tom Sestito to try and bully smaller players and do whatever he wanted too physically. Why you didnt have a Rosehill activated against a hated rival, with a useless door stop like Sestito running your players is beyond me.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 31 @ 9:39 AM ET
No offense Bill, but Ghost, Giroux, Voracek would destroy any of your other 3-3 combos.
- redcoat75


Probably, though here are some others that could have done some damage:

mid 70's: Clarke, Barber & Macleish

mid 80's: Howe, Propp, Sinisalo

96-97: Lindros, Coffey & Brind'amour

03-04: Roenick, Recchi, Gagne

09-10: Giroux, Carter, Pronger
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jan 31 @ 9:45 AM ET
Couturier out for more than 5-6 games likely means that we are looking at a top 10 pick, and perhaps top 3 if we get some luck. As long as he can be 100% by the start of next season, I can live with it. They weren't going anywhere this season anyway.
- BiggE

I'm sorta ready to pack it in as well. Hate to give up at the half way point, but we knew this was a rebuild when Hexy took over. Get A good return for Streit and Schultz. Buy out Umberger after the season. Let's start to funnel a few of the kids up for a look after the TDL.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 9:51 AM ET
At twpguy

Looks like the phantoms dominated the weekend series against the baby pens. Sestito ran goulbourne right into their goalie for a phantom goal, so I'd say let them dress the goons. Morin and ghoul though young should provide enough muscle.

Hagg has been disappointing. Don't know if he has the style for north American hockey. He just doesn't seem to want to get his nose dirty. It's only going to be tougher to impress as the d prospects start to filter in
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 31 @ 9:53 AM ET
Probably, though here are some others that could have done some damage:

mid 70's: Clarke, Barber & Macleish

mid 80's: Howe, Propp, Sinisalo

96-97: Lindros, Coffey & Brind'amour

03-04: Roenick, Recchi, Gagne

09-10: Giroux, Carter, Pronger

- BiggE


All combos by Kyle's setup are 2F, 1D.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 9:53 AM ET
I'm sorta ready to pack it in as well. Hate to give up at the half way point, but we knew this was a rebuild when Hexy took over. Get A good return for Streit and Schultz. Buy out Umberger after the season. Let's start to funnel a few of the kids up for a look after the TDL.
- section32

Yeah I would love a repeat of last years draft. Our own pick in the top 10 and another in the 20's for Streit. This year though I would strongly consider a package to move up.

I'd really like to see them keep the core in place, add Konecny to line two and get the best LW they possibly can for line one.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 31 @ 9:56 AM ET
No offense Bill, but Ghost, Giroux, Voracek would destroy any of your other 3-3 combos.
- redcoat75



Disagree. I think Team 80s would beat them 8 of 10 times. And most likely combos vs. Lindros would be a mismatch if 88 got the puck.... Good luck getting it off him.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:05 AM ET
Yeah I would love a repeat of last years draft. Our own pick in the top 10 and another in the 20's for Streit. This year though I would strongly consider a package to move up.

I'd really like to see them keep the core in place, add Konecny to line two and get the best LW they possibly can for line one.

- hereticpride

I'm really disappointed in our bottom two lines. Not so much the Bellmare line, but they were actually the 4th line and now the third has become the 4th. Do you think we try to acquire that LW in FA this summer? We have a bit of space now. Not sure who is coming available this summer that would be a top line guy. I think Ladd and Lucic are the top names out there.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:05 AM ET
Disagree. I think Team 80s would beat them 8 of 10 times. And most likely combos vs. Lindros would be a mismatch if 88 got the puck.... Good luck getting it off him.
- bmeltzer


You'd never get the puck from Lindros. Sometimes I forget how dominate he was.

And desjardins is still the best most well rounded flyer dman I've seen
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:07 AM ET
Love how a "maintenance day" turned into IR.

Well with Couturier out long term, the playoffs are now a pipe dream. Play some kids, trade some d-men for assets. And for the love of god stop playing RJ Umberger.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 31 @ 10:09 AM ET
Love how a "maintenance day" turned into IR.

Well with Couturier out long term, the playoffs are now a pipe dream. Play some kids, trade some d-men for assets. And for the love of god stop playing RJ Umberger.

- PLindbergh31



One thing though. The continual play of RJ could effectively help with a better overall draft position.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:22 AM ET
I'm sorta ready to pack it in as well. Hate to give up at the half way point, but we knew this was a rebuild when Hexy took over. Get A good return for Streit and Schultz. Buy out Umberger after the season. Let's start to funnel a few of the kids up for a look after the TDL.
- section32

I feel like the flyers need some kind of veteran defensive leadership. If you trade Schultz and Streit who's left?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:25 AM ET
One thing though. The continual play of RJ could effectively help with a better overall draft position.
- 3flyerkids



Yes Sir. Keep the corpse Plus I wouldn't mind the youngsters for the phantoms staying for a playoff push down there :thumbs up:
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 10:29 AM ET
I feel like the flyers need some kind of veteran defensive leadership. If you trade Schultz and Streit who's left?
- Dkos

The coaches to do their job.

So sick of hearing this tbh. Streit can't be on the ice with all the kids and its not worth turning down a 1st rounder for. There is Vet D available every offseason if need be.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:29 AM ET
NHL locked Bettman up through 2022. Apparantely NHL brought Holmer in as a special adviser to get the deal done
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 31 @ 10:32 AM ET
I don't think Shultz gets dealt. Streit may be the only tradeable piece on the defensive side that has any value.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:38 AM ET
The more years we put between today and the Lindros era ...the more I think people forget how dominant he was.....3 on 3...... I go with Lindros, Leclair and Desjardin.... Although Recchi is a nice plan B.



Edit: the most dominant of all the ages....
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 10:39 AM ET
I don't think Shultz gets dealt. Streit may be the only tradeable piece on the defensive side that has any value.
- Pelle31Forever

Schultz could get picked up as a 6/7 guy for a competing team. I wouldn't expect anything more than a 4th in return. I'd still make that deal though.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 31 @ 10:50 AM ET
Schultz could get picked up as a 6/7 guy for a competing team. I wouldn't expect anything more than a 4th in return. I'd still make that deal though.
- hereticpride


It's a toss up. But who knows? You could get lucky and find a gem in the later rounds.
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