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- vejim

Let's get two more top 6 guys in this draft plz.

The possible reason to keep him for the final year of his deal, is to avoid dead cap money.
- MJL

Its only 2 yrs of about a mill and a half of dead cap space. I think id rather have the roster spot honestly.

I don't care for the changes in the line up at all. Raffl being demoted to 4th line center makes zero scene after having so much success with Couturier and Schenn, especially with Gagner being a consistent healthy scratch. Laughton probably deserves some sit time but so does Umberger. Again no Weal in site, who in my opinion played pretty well in his first game as a Flyer.

Dave Hakstol to me is a knuckle head. Too many questionable decisions. Read really needs to be further up in the line up if any drastic changes are made. If any players are to be swopped, it's gotta be one of Weal or Gagner for Umberger or Laughton, leaving the rest of the chemistry alone.

I just don't understand this guy.
- SuperSchennBros

Also kind of scary to think of Gagner and Schenn going up against the other teams best forwards with coots. Maybe Hakstol will split up the duties between coots and G. If it is the defensive part of gagner that is the issue though, maybe being with coots will be a big help. Schenn and Coots can body enough guys to maintain the puck and hopefully give Gagner space to do what he does best

We all know what depth issues the Flyers have. Your not going to sell me that adding Weal and MacDonald to the lineup is going to change things. That's the point. Maybe they will, maybe the won't. But I'm not going to state that the Flyers are failing to ice the best lineup because they're not playing Colin MacDonald and Weal.
- MJL

Yea I agree with you there, id just like to see what weal can actually do. It cant really be much worse then rj, can it?

Its only 2 yrs of about a mill and a half of dead cap space. I think id rather have the roster spot honestly.
- flyers4487

I'd keep him as a 13th or 14th forward if I could, and avoid dead cap money.

Yea I agree with you there, id just like to see what weal can actually do. It cant really be much worse then rj, can it?
- flyers4487

Yes, it could be worse, it could also be better. From a fan's perspective, I'd like to see him play. It's not a big deal if he doesn't.

Its only 2 yrs of about a mill and a half of dead cap space. I think id rather have the roster spot honestly.
- flyers4487

1 year actually if you consider the year he would still be under contract

Medvedev in for manning, weal in for gagner. That's what I'd like to see
- benjichronic

It's february. Only a few weeks now til the deadline. I say keep gagner in the lineup and give him pp time. Need to get something for him.

I'd like medvedev in also for the same reasons. Need to sell. Flyers are sellers

Unfortunately I feel we've seen this movie before. Flyers play get a huge win over a quality opponent, then head to break only to come back and look lifeless.

Time to write a new script Flyers. Playoffs for you guys are underway.

I'd keep him as a 13th or 14th forward if I could, and avoid dead cap money.
- MJL

I think whats actually going to happen is hexy is going to look at the roster, and the cap space and if he needs the space he buys him out. If he doesnt obviously the smart move is to sit him in the pressbox for the yr.

Also kind of scary to think of Gagner and Schenn going up against the other teams best forwards with coots. Maybe Hakstol will split up the duties between coots and G. If it is the defensive part of gagner that is the issue though, maybe being with coots will be a big help. Schenn and Coots can body enough guys to maintain the puck and hopefully give Gagner space to do what he does best
- YuenglingJagr

I don't think taking Raffl off that line for Gagner is justified. Read is the only player I'd consider the move for.

Medvedev in for manning, weal in for gagner. That's what I'd like to see
- benjichronic

What's funny is a guy I actually don't mind in the lineup is Manning. I think he plays a simple game, moves the puck well, skates well for his size, gives the team a physical edge.

My lineup if I was trying to push for the playoffs.

Voracek - Giroux - Simmonds
Weal - Couturier - Schenn
Raffl - Laughton/Gagner - Read
Umberger/Vandevelde - Bellemore - White

Del Zotto - Gostisbehere
Streit - Gudas
Manning - Medvedev

It's february. Only a few weeks now til the deadline. I say keep gagner in the lineup and give him pp time. Need to get something for him.

I'd like medvedev in also for the same reasons. Need to sell. Flyers are sellers
- Just5

I kinda want to keep ganger in, and flip him at the deadline, or keep him for a playoff push and let him walk. Either way its a win

Medvedev in for manning, weal in for gagner. That's what I'd like to see
- benjichronic

i know Medy hasn't been fantastic in that he hasn't been consistent, but is he really that bad that we sit him so much in favour of Manning?

I'd keep him as a 13th or 14th forward if I could, and avoid dead cap money.
- MJL

$1.5m in dead space for 17-18 will not be an issue. An Umberger buyout would allow the Flyers to upgrade their top 6 for 16-17 and I'll be surprised if Hextall doesn't take advantage of it.

It's february. Only a few weeks now til the deadline. I say keep gagner in the lineup and give him pp time. Need to get something for him.

I'd like medvedev in also for the same reasons. Need to sell. Flyers are sellers
- Just5

I agree with this. Especially Medvedev. The more NHL experience under his belt the better.

Would love to pick up a 3rd for each of these guys. That or 4ths and later picks.

Hextall can very realisticly head into this draft with a slew of picks and a ton of options with some very realistic moves at this deadline.

Medvedev in for manning, weal in for gagner. That's what I'd like to see
- benjichronic

Manning playing over Medvedev is nonsense. Manning getting PP time over Del Zotto is worse. Manning doesn't even collect very many points, makes questionable decisions offensively and doesn't even have an NHL goal yet.

$1.5m in dead space for 17-18 will not be an issue. An Umberger buyout would allow the Flyers to upgrade their top 6 for 16-17 and I'll be surprised if Hextall doesn't take advantage of it.
- Feanor

Your right. It's a non issue. There's no way the flyers are flirting with the ceiling for a long time anyway.

Also kind of scary to think of Gagner and Schenn going up against the other teams best forwards with coots. Maybe Hakstol will split up the duties between coots and G. If it is the defensive part of gagner that is the issue though, maybe being with coots will be a big help. Schenn and Coots can body enough guys to maintain the puck and hopefully give Gagner space to do what he does best
- YuenglingJagr

thing to keep in mind is, I have seen numerous reports of lineups and roster decisions before a game, only to find out they are different. Have to wait and see what really happens.

What's funny is a guy I actually don't mind in the lineup is Manning. I think he plays a simple game, moves the puck well, skates well for his size, gives the team a physical edge.
- J35Bacher

He doesn't move the puck well or provide a physical edge outside of getting beat up once in a while.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st.../hits/position/defensemen

He's an offensive black hole who hasn't managed to produce a single point all season without Ghost next to him doing all the work.

Giving all those ES OZ starts and PP time to an AH-calibre plug like Manning is part of why the Flyers are near the bottom of the league in scoring.

I agree with this. Especially Medvedev. The more NHL experience under his belt the better.

Would love to pick up a 3rd for each of these guys. That or 4ths and later picks.

Hextall can very realisticly head into this draft with a slew of picks and a ton of options with some very realistic moves at this deadline.
- hereticpride

They are sellers, it's february. Their sellers

Manning playing over Medvedev is nonsense. Manning getting PP time over Del Zotto is worse. Manning doesn't even collect very many points, makes questionable decisions offensively and doesn't even have an NHL goal yet.
- SuperSchennBros

Del Zotto has never been a great PP guy. I would rather see Couturier at the point. He played it in junior and with the Phantoms.

He doesn't move the puck well or provide a physical edge outside of getting beat up once in a while. He's an offensive black hole who hasn't managed to produce a single point all season without Ghost next to him doing all the work.

Giving all those ES OZ starts and PP time to an AH-calibre plug like Manning is part of why the Flyers are near the bottom of the league in scoring.
- Feanor

If the MDZ-ghost pair is working. Which I still have my doubts about that, but why not dress medvedev to pair with gudas?

i know Medy hasn't been fantastic in that he hasn't been consistent, but is he really that bad that we sit him so much in favour of Manning?
- Hextall271

I don't think he's been any worse than any of Flyers defenseman. They've all had less than consistent games on their slates. He should be playing regularly.

He doesn't move the puck well or provide a physical edge outside of getting beat up once in a while. He's an offensive black hole who hasn't managed to produce a single point all season without Ghost next to him doing all the work.

Giving all those ES OZ starts and PP time to an AH-calibre plug like Manning is part of why the Flyers are near the bottom of the league in scoring.
- Feanor

I would say that is more a product of the bottom 6 not producing. I think Manning does his job and role well.

I saw the Avalanch lost Stuart for the season. Wonder if they could use a MacDonald.