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kygermo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Thin Line 'Tween Heaven & Here, NJ
Joined: 04.07.2015

Feb 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
I think the biggest difference is Bill is an objective writer, as opposed to emotional.
- funmaster18



Absolutely! Its refreshing to know what the other team currently has at stake when they go up against us. Its what separates him from the others. Two sides to the story, you know?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
Full rosters of Friday's Flyers Alumni game (Team Orange vs. Team White) now available: http://www.flyersalumni.o...ebration-of-flyers-hockey
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
Hextall would be foolish to not cash in on Streit now. They will have money to sign a vet D presence for next year if they feel the need to do so. Get another 1st and make some noise this draft.
- hereticpride


Streit isn't having the 50+ point season he had last year so it's unlikely teams are offering a 1st for him right now. And his contract means some contenders can't fit him in even if they wanted to.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
We know Umberger is shot. Any of the following would be an upgrade: Weal, Cousins, Leier etc... They are not a contender this season, it makes no sense keeping a 33 year old has been in the lineup
- BiggE



It's not a fact that any of them would be an upgrade. Umberger still plays well enough away from the puck defensively, and along the wall. Cousins and Leier are certainly more talented at this point, as is Weal, but that's all at this point. What is Weal, is he a skilled player whose offensive ability will translate to the NHL, or is he an AHL player?

Once the playoff picture is clearer towards the deadline, then I would be in favor of limited call ups for some of these players, provided they get enough icetime.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
Who should they replace Umberger with, Weal?

Titanic -chairs

- MJL



But if roles were moved with crew on the titantic maybe they don't hit the iceberg and you get different result.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
Streit isn't having the 50+ point season he had last year so it's unlikely teams are offering a 1st for him right now. And his contract means some contenders can't fit him in even if they wanted to.
- Feanor



Kimmo got two 2nd rounders.

I think you have to start there for Streit. Maybe 2nd, 4th and b level prospect(like Weal)
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
thing to keep in mind is, I have seen numerous reports of lineups and roster decisions before a game, only to find out they are different. Have to wait and see what really happens.
- funmaster18


Yes I know...I didnt even read the lineup bill posted TBH...just discussing what others are saying
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 2 @ 9:59 AM ET
Full rosters of Friday's Flyers Alumni game (Team Orange vs. Team White) now available: http://www.flyersalumni.o...ebration-of-flyers-hockey
- bmeltzer

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 2 @ 10:00 AM ET
I'd be surprised if they could get a first for Streit.
- MJL

I don't think a fringe playoff team makes that move that could very well be bounced in the first round but teams like the Hawks, Bolts, Kings... Why not? I wouldn't even care if Hextall ate some of the money next year to make it work.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 2 @ 10:01 AM ET
so leight bro

EDIT: someone else have the Bleacher Report Team Stream app?

- funmaster18


Haha I was going to say the same thing! Also, we were tied if you look at the time.. Means we'll have to go to a 3 on 3 OT to decide this!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 10:01 AM ET
We know Umberger is shot. Any of the following would be an upgrade: Weal, Cousins, Leier etc... They are not a contender this season, it makes no sense keeping a 33 year old has been in the lineup
- BiggE


So far the Coach disagrees about Weal, and the GM disagrees about Cousins, Leier, etc.

I don't we'll see any major changes unless there's a long losing streak.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 2 @ 10:01 AM ET
It's not a fact that any of them would be an upgrade. Umberger still plays well enough away from the puck defensively, and along the wall. Cousins and Leier are certainly more talented at this point, as is Weal, but that's all at this point. What is Weal, is he a skilled player whose offensive ability will translate to the NHL, or is he an AHL player?

Once the playoff picture is clearer towards the deadline, then I would be in favor of limited call ups for some of these players, provided they get enough icetime.

- MJL

Whatever, not going to debate this all day, especially since I'm in Key West! We aren't going to agree, oh well.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 10:02 AM ET
I don't think a fringe playoff team makes that move that could very well be bounced in the first round but teams like the Hawks, Bolts, Kings... Why not? I wouldn't even care if Hextall ate some of the money next year to make it work.
- hereticpride


He can't retain anything on Streit till the summer. The Flyers are already retaining on three contracts, which is the max.

Teams like the ones you mentioned may be able to use Medvedev, though, since he's a UFA with a $3m cap hit.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 2 @ 10:04 AM ET
Whatever, not going to debate this all day, especially since I'm in Key West! We aren't going to agree, oh well.
- BiggE



Was there this past summer.

Loved it. My brother got married there. Rolled all over that place with the moped.

My brother had a guy Skyler Anderson play at his ceremony who plays at the one country bar there. With the mechanical bull
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 2 @ 10:05 AM ET
He can't retain anything on Streit till the summer. The Flyers are already retaining on three contracts, which is the max.

Teams like the ones you mentioned may be able to use Medvedev, though, since he's a UFA with a $3m cap hit.

- Feanor

Ah, gotcha.

Well he could certainly still retain salary next year on him still.

I just think with what we see guys end up going for every deadline Streit could still quite possibly yeild us a 1st.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
Was there this past summer.

Loved it. My brother got married there. Rolled all over that place with the moped.

My brother had a guy Skyler Anderson play at his ceremony who plays at the one country bar there. With the mechanical bull

- J35Bacher

Wild Bills, sadly it was sold this fall and turned into just your basic island joint. Shame, as it was truly a local icon and unique place
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
I don't think a fringe playoff team makes that move that could very well be bounced in the first round but teams like the Hawks, Bolts, Kings... Why not? I wouldn't even care if Hextall ate some of the money next year to make it work.
- hereticpride


Certainly possible but the extra year on his deal will limit his value. The Flyers currently cannot retain salary on any more deals.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
Kimmo got two 2nd rounders.

I think you have to start there for Streit. Maybe 2nd, 4th and b level prospect(like Weal)

- J35Bacher


I would do Streit for Pirri. Florida is one of the few contenders who could take Streit's contract without any problem.

http://www.rotoworld.com/...nt/nhl/3381/brandon-pirri
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
I would do Streit for Pirri. Florida is one of the few contenders who could take Streit's contract without any problem.

http://www.rotoworld.com/...nt/nhl/3381/brandon-pirri

- Feanor


Not a big Pirri fan, but I would be okay with this type of deal
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
Ah, gotcha.

Well he could certainly still retain salary next year on him still.

I just think with what we see guys end up going for every deadline Streit could still quite possibly yeild us a 1st.

- hereticpride


They'd have to wsit to trade him until the off season to retain salary for next season in a Streit deal.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
I would do Streit for Pirri. Florida is one of the few contenders who could take Streit's contract without any problem.

http://www.rotoworld.com/...nt/nhl/3381/brandon-pirri

- Feanor

I would also certainly consider a deal like this.

Hextall could probably also take on an expiring contract to help out other teams.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 2 @ 10:09 AM ET
They'd have to wsit to trade him until the off season to retain salary for next season in a Streit deal.
- MJL

Oh, that's strange. Oh well.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 2 @ 10:09 AM ET
Wild Bills, sadly it was sold this fall and turned into just your basic island joint. Shame, as it was truly a local icon and unique place
- BiggE



That sucks.

We went bar hoping all night. Ended up there and watched some slutty girls on the bull.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 2 @ 10:09 AM ET

Hextall could probably also take on an expiring contract to help out other teams.

- hereticpride


This is the ideal situation IMO...if we are sellers, we should take advantage of the cap and maximize return.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 2 @ 10:11 AM ET
I would do Streit for Pirri. Florida is one of the few contenders who could take Streit's contract without any problem.

http://www.rotoworld.com/...nt/nhl/3381/brandon-pirri

- Feanor



I wouldn't mind a deal where they take a guy like Bickell back from Chicago if it means they get a 1st rounder or better prospect(hartmen or teravanien).

I think Bickel would be an upgrade over Umberger or Vandevelde.
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