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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 11:26 AM ET
Yeah. Looks like the Leafs just wanted to dump him. All players they got back are FA after next season. They get a C level prospect and a 2nd as well.
- PhillySportsGuy


You could say the exact same thing about his trade from Calgary.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:26 AM ET
This just looks like some flotsam and jetsam and yeah, here, take Dion's contract.

I guess his presence in the deal makes Ottawa the short term winner, but this just looks like Tank Mode for Toronto.

- johndewar


I think they wanted to clear his salary, so they can start the upswing for 2017-18. They'll have a ton of money and a ton of young talent
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:26 AM ET
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#Sens get Phaneuf, Frattin, Bailey, Rupert and Donaghey in exchange for Cowen, Greening, Michalek, Lindberg and 2nd-rounder in 2017.

- MBFlyerfan


WOW. I didn't think trades like this happened anymore.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
But guys.

Michalek is making 4 mil for the next 2 years
Greening is a 1.5ish mil buried contract
Cowen is like 3 mil

They're not exactly dumping contracts here

- Giroux_Is_God


But they'll lose Phaneuf's term, which gives them long term flexibility to sign a big fish maybe?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
But guys.

Michalek is making 4 mil for the next 2 years
Greening is a 1.5ish mil buried contract
Cowen is like 3 mil

They're not exactly dumping contracts here

- Giroux_Is_God


All clear after next season. Phaneuf on the books for 6 more years I think
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
I think they wanted to clear his salary, so they can start the upswing for 2017-18. They'll have a ton of money and a ton of young talent
- PhillySportsGuy


Yep.

It's not like Toronto is going to be any good anytime soon, so this deal makes a ton of sense for them.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
Since this:



- MBFlyerfan



seriously. they had the one playoff year where they blew it to Boston. outside of that, its been a poop show.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
Yeah. Looks like the Leafs just wanted to dump him. All players they got back are FA after next season. They get a C level prospect and a 2nd as well.
- PhillySportsGuy


So most likely nothing there.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
All clear after next season. Phaneuf on the books for 6 more years I think
- PhillySportsGuy

Stamkos is the FA this year though. That's my point.

Yeah, after next season they fall off the books, but I mean....if they're going after Stammer they'll still have to do some serious finagling.

Gotta sign Kadri too after this season
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
all in for one of the top 3 and Stamkos. can't blame them. they have been mediocre for how long now?
- nastyflyergirl


hmmm....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:31 AM ET
Todd Cordell is saying Lindberg isn't a bad prospect. I like the deal from the Leafs perspective. Ottawa paying a poopload to two guys in Ryan and Phaneuf who likely won't age well. Not a great idea for a team that doesn't like to spend up to the cap ceiling.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:32 AM ET
Stamkos is the FA this year though. That's my point.

Yeah, after next season they fall off the books, but I mean....if they're going after Stammer they'll still have to do some serious finagling.

Gotta sign Kadri too after this season

- Giroux_Is_God


Unless they deal him and JvR at the TDL and take the team completely down to the beams.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:35 AM ET
Stamkos is the FA this year though. That's my point.

Yeah, after next season they fall off the books, but I mean....if they're going after Stammer they'll still have to do some serious finagling.

Gotta sign Kadri too after this season

- Giroux_Is_God


Still more than enough to make it work for Stamkos. Remember they have a bunch of young talent on ELCs that may be ready to play in the NHL next year.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 9 @ 11:36 AM ET
But guys.

Michalek is making 4 mil for the next 2 years
Greening is a 1.5ish mil buried contract
Cowen is like 3 mil

They're not exactly dumping contracts here

- Giroux_Is_God


They are taking on minimal salary commitments in order to get rid of a long term commitment. It is money going the other way so Ottawa can afford Dion. Greening has been buried...Cowen has not lived up to expectations and Michalek has been injured. They will also be offloading contracts at the TDL

I really wanted Cowen and Greening for AMac, but it is what it is.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
I'm going tonight too and my record is ugly... it's 0-2-3 with the game I gave to a friend being another SO loss. But I'll still be there tonight thinking they've got to win soon when I'm there this season.
- dragonoffrost


Good luck tonight, I'm going Thursday. The teams record isn't what I hoped it would be but at least they are entertaining.

PS going to a Saturday game against the pens in April, would like to meet up with some buzzers then.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 9 @ 11:38 AM ET
wow....



To OTT: D. Phaneuf, M. Frattin, Casey Bailey, Ryan Rupert, Cody Donaghey.
To TOR: J. Cowen, C. Greening, M Michlaek, Tobias Lindberg, '17 2d

- opeth_pa


Omg mega turd trade
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 9 @ 11:39 AM ET
The Manning/Medvedev shell game continues tonight.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 9 @ 11:39 AM ET
Since this:



- MBFlyerfan

The quality of JR's absolute (frank)ing snipe often gets forgotten in lieu of Kapanen. Rightfully so...but all I'm saying is that shot was just (frank)ing sweet
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:41 AM ET
Still more than enough to make it work for Stamkos. Remember they have a bunch of young talent on ELCs that may be ready to play in the NHL next year.
- PhillySportsGuy


Man, can't believe TO was able to shed that contract and not take anything worse than Cowen back.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:41 AM ET
Omg mega turd trade
- Just5


"Here, I'll take some of your garbage if you take this overpriced DVD player that I overpaid for and has 6 more years of payments to go. It still works, but you have to assume the payments and it's not as good as a Blue Ray player."
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 9 @ 11:42 AM ET
Still more than enough to make it work for Stamkos. Remember they have a bunch of young talent on ELCs that may be ready to play in the NHL next year.
- PhillySportsGuy

True...but they have to pay Kadri and Reilly I believe. That'll probably add up to what Dion makes.

I'm not doubting the financial advantages here with getting that albatross out of the way...all I'm saying is I'm not too sure this move by itself gives them the means to go after Stamkos
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 9 @ 11:43 AM ET
Unless they deal him and JvR at the TDL and take the team completely down to the beams.
- johndewar

I'd be surprised if they send Kadri out. top pick + stammer or not...he's still gotta be a core player in their eyes, right??
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:45 AM ET
wow....



To OTT: D. Phaneuf, M. Frattin, Casey Bailey, Ryan Rupert, Cody Donaghey.
To TOR: J. Cowen, C. Greening, M Michlaek, Tobias Lindberg, '17 2d

- opeth_pa


Is TO retaining any salary on Phaneuf?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 9 @ 11:46 AM ET
Todd Cordell is saying Lindberg isn't a bad prospect. I like the deal from the Leafs perspective. Ottawa paying a poopload to two guys in Ryan and Phaneuf who likely won't age well. Not a great idea for a team that doesn't like to spend up to the cap ceiling.
- PhillySportsGuy


Not to mention that albatross contract Karlsson has.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 11:46 AM ET
True...but they have to pay Kadri and Reilly I believe. That'll probably add up to what Dion makes.

I'm not doubting the financial advantages here with getting that albatross out of the way...all I'm saying is I'm not too sure this move by itself gives them the means to go after Stamkos

- Giroux_Is_God


They'll likely let Grabner, Matthias, Spaling, and Parenteau go after this year. that's $9M right there. Nylander and Kapenen will turn NA pro next year and they'll buy out Lupul if they have to.
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