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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 9 @ 11:46 AM ET
True...but they have to pay Kadri and Reilly I believe. That'll probably add up to what Dion makes.

I'm not doubting the financial advantages here with getting that albatross out of the way...all I'm saying is I'm not too sure this move by itself gives them the means to go after Stamkos

- Giroux_Is_God


They were going to have to pay them anyway. They have enough coming off to sign Stamkos easily
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:46 AM ET
Is TO retaining any salary on Phaneuf?
- BiggE


No salary retained by either side.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 9 @ 11:47 AM ET
Is TO retaining any salary on Phaneuf?
- BiggE


no
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 9 @ 11:47 AM ET
The Manning/Medvedev shell game continues tonight.
- PLindbergh31



I have no problem with Manning being in but I would have him in for Gudas. Gudas has been a turnover machine lately. I guess with Anaheims big forwards they want Gudas in (not that Medvedev is small) but still, if it were me Gudas would take a seat for a game or two.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:47 AM ET
Since this:



- MBFlyerfan

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:48 AM ET
So TO's gotten rid of Kessel, Phaneuf and Clarkson.... I guess GM's can always count on other GM's to be (frank)ing stupid.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 9 @ 11:49 AM ET
So TO's gotten rid of Kessel, Phaneuf and Clarkson.... I guess GM's can always count on other GM's to be (frank)ing stupid.


- Tomahawk


Who is taking Umberger and Amac?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 9 @ 11:49 AM ET
So TO's gotten rid of Kessel, Phaneuf and Clarkson.... I guess GM's can always count on other GM's to be (frank)ing stupid.


- Tomahawk


The ability to afford salary dumps makes a huge difference
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:52 AM ET
Who is taking Umberger and Amac?
- PLindbergh31


Unless someone hires Milbury, probably no one.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:53 AM ET
wow....



To OTT: D. Phaneuf, M. Frattin, Casey Bailey, Ryan Rupert, Cody Donaghey.
To TOR: J. Cowen, C. Greening, M Michlaek, Tobias Lindberg, '17 2d

- opeth_pa


This looks like poop for Toronto.

JvR for 5 Phantom players we never talk about and Robert Hagg being the center piece.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 9 @ 11:54 AM ET
This looks like poop for Toronto.

JvR for 5 Phantom players we never talk about and Robert Hagg being the center piece.

- SuperSchennBros


Huh?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 9 @ 11:54 AM ET
This looks like poop for Toronto.

JvR for 5 Phantom players we never talk about and Robert Hagg being the center piece.

- SuperSchennBros


Toronto clearing salary for Stamkos is what this is.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:55 AM ET
Man, can't believe TO was able to shed that contract and not take anything worse than Cowen back.
- Tomahawk

plus, per Seravalli, Cowen represents a cap credit if bought out. Not bad at all, as far as clearing up the books.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 9 @ 11:57 AM ET
plus, per Seravalli, Cowen represents a cap credit if bought out. Not bad at all, as far as clearing up the books.
- BulliesPhan87


He was right about Laughton too
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 9 @ 12:01 PM ET
He was right about Laughton too
- YuenglingJagr

refresh my memory, pls
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 9 @ 12:02 PM ET
refresh my memory, pls
- BulliesPhan87


Laughton's waiver eligibility
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 9 @ 12:02 PM ET
This looks like poop for Toronto.

JvR for 5 Phantom players we never talk about and Robert Hagg being the center piece.

- SuperSchennBros


If I'm Hextall I might inquire about JvR's availability...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 12:03 PM ET
Man, can't believe TO was able to shed that contract and not take anything worse than Cowen back.
- Tomahawk


Turned Phaneuf into 1.5 years of dead space, a 2nd and an ok prospect
Turned Kessel into 7 years of $1M, Kapanen and a 1st
Turned Clarkson into Horton LTIR for 6 years

Not bad
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
True...but they have to pay Kadri and Reilly I believe. That'll probably add up to what Dion makes.

I'm not doubting the financial advantages here with getting that albatross out of the way...all I'm saying is I'm not too sure this move by itself gives them the means to go after Stamkos

- Giroux_Is_God


If they want Stamkos, they can do things to move money around. JVR can be moved for an asset and Lupul can probably be dumped if they attach an asset to him.

I'll be honest though, I think Stamkos re-signs in Tampa. How often do teams lose players like that? #1 centers and #1 D in their primes rarely ever change teams due to financial reasons.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
so when all is said and done Ottawa got Phaneuf at a 7 mil cap for 4 more years after this year and expiring contract in Frattin (UFA) and 3 entry level contracts and Ottawa got 3 guys who total 9.75 million whose contracts expire after next year, a prospect in Lindberg and a 2nd rounder. no short term cap relief but a lot of relief after next season
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
So TO's gotten rid of Kessel, Phaneuf and Clarkson.... I guess GM's can always count on other GM's to be (frank)ing stupid.


- Tomahawk


Kessel and Phaneuf are both still good players though. I feel like everyone is praising him simply because he was realistic about their true value. The Clarkson move was a creative one.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 12:08 PM ET
plus, per Seravalli, Cowen represents a cap credit if bought out. Not bad at all, as far as clearing up the books.
- BulliesPhan87


Yeah. I saw that too. What exactly does this mean?

Edit: Just read the article. Pretty confusing, but I get it. Interesting situation.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 12:10 PM ET
so when all is said and done Ottawa got Phaneuf at a 7 mil cap for 4 more years after this year and expiring contract in Frattin (UFA) and 3 entry level contracts and Ottawa got 3 guys who total 9.75 million whose contracts expire after next year, a prospect in Lindberg and a 2nd rounder. no short term cap relief but a lot of relief after next season
- nastyflyergirl


I think one of the guys the Leafs got expires this year and something is strange about Cowen's deal being team friendly.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 9 @ 12:15 PM ET
more deals to clear cap space then "hockey trades" lately

I hate the salary cap, Bettman, shoot outs, NMCs, all yuk
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 9 @ 12:18 PM ET
why would stamkos wanna play for those losers, i guess if he never wants to win a cup
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