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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:37 AM ET
I don't like Dave Hakstol. Last season Matt Read was horrid. Later it turned out he had an injury but for whatever reason, Berube felt it necessary to keep playing him. This season Read looks decent but it's pretty obvious he can't overcome the shortcomings of Laughton and Umberger, so Read gets punished.
- SuperSchennBros



I am surprised by both being scratched.

But it's not really a terrible thing. The problem for me is that if you want guys like Laughton and Read to produce they need to be used more.

My problem is the reliance of the Bellemare line. I understand there is a trust thing but I would rather be playing my skilled guys over my muckers.

I would treat Laughton like Gostisbehere. You have to let them play and live with the mistakes they make for the better of the future for this team.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 11 @ 11:37 AM ET

- Tomahawk


To see something even funnier, check out Laughton's possession numbers. They are hilariously bad, no matter who he has played with. And despite getting easy minutes.

I really think he needs some more time in the AHL oven, cause in the NHL he is undercooked. But for Weal, it's make or break time so I'm glad to see him in the lineup.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 11 @ 11:37 AM ET
It's to early to tell but we all believe he's untouchable and this kid has carried this team on hia back most of his career. Assuming he isn't traded before age 33, he should be highly considered.
- SuperSchennBros


I would definitely agree that he is on track to have it retired.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 11:37 AM ET
My thoughts

Hextall - yes
LeClair - no
Giroux - too early to determine but leaning no right now
Recchi - no

- Scoob

Hex over LeClair? You think??
SuperSchennBros
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Feb 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
I would definitely agree that he is on track to have it retired.
- funmaster18

Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
David Hakstol aka Craig Berube
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
Care to elaborate all knowing one? I mean your response doesn't make you sound like a Tool at all. It's a simple question.
- SuperSchennBros


Whoa there cowboy.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
I am surprised by both being scratched.

But it's not really a terrible thing. The problem for me is that if you want guys like Laughton and Read to produce they need to be used more.

My problem is the reliance of the Bellemare line. I understand there is a trust thing but I would rather be playing my skilled guys over my muckers.

I would treat Laughton like Gostisbehere. You have to let them play and live with the mistakes they make for the better of the future for this team.

- J35Bacher

I hate the treatment of Matt Read. He deserves better.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
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Edit: franking Brodeur has 3

- Scoob


(frank) him
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
Whoa there cowboy.
- Tomahawk

I feel justified with my response.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Feb 11 @ 11:41 AM ET
Um, it is?
- Tomahawk


Should be.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 11 @ 11:41 AM ET
I hate the treatment of Matt Read. He deserves better.
- SuperSchennBros

Why does he deserve better? Because he is so effective?

He hasnt had a good season since 2013-14. He is supposed to provide some supplemental offense, but thats not happening either. Maybe a game or two off will help.

We sorely lack offensive punch outside of the top 6, and Read isnt helping any.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 11 @ 11:41 AM ET
I don't like Dave Hakstol.
- SuperSchennBros


I do. He's clearly still learning how to deal with the pro game but he seems to have made a lot of progress since the beginning of the season and it shows on the ice. I think he's the guy this team needs for the next 5 years at least.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 11 @ 11:42 AM ET
Hex over LeClair? You think??
- SuperSchennBros


Yes
I'm not sure about Lindros. Such a rocky history.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:42 AM ET
Bad team + Giroux bobble head giveaway =Loss.

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 11 @ 11:43 AM ET
I do. He's clearly still learning how to deal with the pro game but he seems to have made a lot of progress since the beginning of the season and it shows on the ice. I think he's the guy this team needs for the next 5 years at least.
- Scoob

The players rave about him too.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 11 @ 11:43 AM ET
(frank) him
- funmaster18


I respect his career but yes, that. lol
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 11 @ 11:43 AM ET
Bad team + Giroux bobble head giveaway =Loss.
- Pelle31Forever


divided by Umberger back in the lineup = hockeybuzz meltdown
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 11 @ 11:43 AM ET
I respect his career but yes, that. lol
- Scoob


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 11 @ 11:43 AM ET
The players rave about him too.
- jak521


some of them raved about Berube too, so...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 11 @ 11:44 AM ET
The players rave about him too.
- jak521


Oh, well wait a minute then, I may have to rethink my opinion. Players saying good things doesn't seem to carry weight around here.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
some of them raved about Berube too, so...
- funmaster18

I dont remember that, as much as saying its not his fault or we dont want him to lose his job becuase of us type stuff.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
I hate the treatment of Matt Read. He deserves better.
- SuperSchennBros



What treatment?

Read said he played best on RW. Same as Simmonds and Schenn.

Simmonds playing well on top line and Schenn playing well with Couturier until injury.

For a while the top 2 lines were playing well together.

Voracek - Giroux - Simmonds
Raffl - Couturier - Schenn


Not sure where he was going to go based on his preference and how things were.

Also I think Read's role is that of a 3rd line winger. Kind of like Raffl. Guys nice to have but not guys I think you want in your top 6 where you rely on them to produce continually.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:46 AM ET
I do. He's clearly still learning how to deal with the pro game but he seems to have made a lot of progress since the beginning of the season and it shows on the ice. I think he's the guy this team needs for the next 5 years at least.
- Scoob


He also has seemed to give them an identity.

Once they increase talent I think you'll see him really flourish.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 11 @ 11:47 AM ET
I dont remember that, as much as saying its not his fault or we dont want him to lose his job becuase of us type stuff.
- jak521


well they did tough guy, (frank) you

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