Read provides more supplemental offense than anyone else in the bottom 6.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC


- Feanor

Thats like saying he is the tallest midget.

The Flyers will more or less only retire numbers of players in the Hockey Hall of Fame (the "big" Hall in Toronto, not just team HOF and/or U.S. Hockey HOF). Barry Ashbee was a special case.
- bmeltzer

That's reasonable. It should be a very high bar to have a number retired.

You said, "We sorely lack offensive punch outside of the top 6, and Read isnt helping any."

That may be true, but he'd help the bottom 6 with that (and on the PK) a lot more than Umberger would. He's the best option we have.
- jmatchett383

Umberger is going to make you look so stupid tonight [at least I hope (because that is better for the flyers)]

That's reasonable. It should be a very high bar to have a number retired.
- Scoob

Agreed.

You said, "We sorely lack offensive punch outside of the top 6, and Read isnt helping any."

That may be true, but he'd help the bottom 6 with that (and on the PK) a lot more than Umberger would. He's the best option we have.
- jmatchett383

Right... so my point is that maybe sitting a game will help kick start him and Laughton.

They are gonna need those two flying around this weekend.

swapping Read and Umberger for one game isnt the end of the world.

Now if the lineup stays the same for the weekend.. thats different

Let's just retire every number for a player that was halfway decent, make it real difficult for current guys to pick numbers
- Tomfan365

Neither one should have their number retired. I'd maybe retire Lindros, but that's it. I don't think anyone on the team right now warrants retiring. Giroux's the closest, but he's never been a top-5 guy at his position for a prolonged period (3-4 seasons) which the others (sans Ashbee) were.

Right... so my point is that maybe sitting a game will help kick start him and Laughton.

They are gonna need those two flying around this weekend.

swapping Read and Umberger for one game isnt the end of the world.

Now if the lineup stays the same for the weekend.. thats different
- jak521

I'd rather see Leier called up.

I'd rather see Leier called up.
- jmatchett383

Not I... at least yet.

Let him continue to be the #1 guy in LHV.. After the TDL, Im game for all of that.


As of now, one game, let Read and Laughton sit and watch. Hopefully it kick starts them a bit

That's reasonable. It should be a very high bar to have a number retired.
- Scoob

So many hockey people still dislike 88 and Family... wonder when he'll have a real shot at making it.

Umberger again??

Right... so my point is that maybe sitting a game will help kick start him and Laughton.

They are gonna need those two flying around this weekend.

swapping Read and Umberger for one game isnt the end of the world.

Now if the lineup stays the same for the weekend.. thats different
- jak521

The Flyers also need to see what Weal can do in these last 30 games to know if he's worth keeping.

So many hockey people still dislike 88 and Family... wonder when he'll have a real shot at making it.
- Tomahawk

I think now that people realize how bad concussions are.. they are starting to come around. Philly is the toughest city in the world to be a star in. Never appreciated.

Thats like saying he is the tallest midget.
- jak521

Read's 18 points in 51 games isn't that bad.

Raffl has 12 in 52 after scoring 28 in 67 last season. That's where the secondary scoring went.

Question1 : Is it that big a deal that Umberger is back in the line-up? The Flyers did not win any games this week when he was a healthy scratch.

Question 2: Weal is in. Where is the rejoicing?

Not I... at least yet.

Let him continue to be the #1 guy in LHV.. After the TDL, Im game for all of that.


As of now, one game, let Read and Laughton sit and watch. Hopefully it kick starts them a bit
- jak521

Agree.

After the deadline I hope some spots open. Maybe they can move white or Vandevelde or even Bellemare to open spots up. Maybe Read is moved.

I would like to see Leier and Laughton together.

Question1 : Is it that big a deal that Umberger is back in the line-up? The Flyers did not win any games this week when he was a healthy scratch.

Question 2: Weal is in. Where is the rejoicing?
- ChoclitLeClair

Turned into complaining that Read is scratched.

alright nick cousins on the 2nd line the tank is on!
but seriously guys lets be real here schenn couturier and read just aren't that good and unless they have a resurgence they'll all be utility 2nd 3rd liners

Turned into complaining that Read is scratched.
- J35Bacher

read isn't that good so meh

Question1 : Is it that big a deal that Umberger is back in the line-up? The Flyers did not win any games this week when he was a healthy scratch.

Question 2: Weal is in. Where is the rejoicing?
- ChoclitLeClair

I'm ok with anything really. It's over anyway. There are too many teams ahead of us

alright nick cousins on the 2nd line the tank is on!
but seriously guys lets be real here schenn couturier and read just aren't that good and unless they have a resurgence they'll all be utility 2nd 3rd liners
- 2Real

Couturier and Schenn were playing well and providing consistent scoring together. Problem is they need a playmaking winger.

If you can add a Konecny to that line it should get better.

Raffl and Read on a 3rd line together would be ideal to provide good two way play and depth scoring.

The problem is the flyers lack talent and guys are playing in roles probably not suited for them.

Garrison out 3-5 weeks in Tampa. Maybe Hextall can get something from them for Medvedev and take back Ohlund to make the cap work.

Question1 : Is it that big a deal that Umberger is back in the line-up? The Flyers did not win any games this week when he was a healthy scratch.

Question 2: Weal is in. Where is the rejoicing?
- ChoclitLeClair

"You know who would stem the tide in this hockey game? GET ME UMBERGER!"

- said no Flyers fan ever since 2014

Also, I've rejoiced already that Weal is in.

alright nick cousins on the 2nd line the tank is on!
but seriously guys lets be real here schenn couturier and read just aren't that good and unless they have a resurgence they'll all be utility 2nd 3rd liners
- 2Real

Couturier isn't that good?

Couturier and Schenn were playing well and providing consistent scoring together. Problem is they need a playmaking winger.

If you can add a Konecny to that line it should get better.

Raffl and Read on a 3rd line together would be ideal to provide good two way play and depth scoring.

The problem is the flyers lack talent and guys are playing in roles probably not suited for them.
- J35Bacher

exactly we don't have that talent on the roster to solidify a line we have guys that would be great support to a talented winger

alright nick cousins on the 2nd line the tank is on!
but seriously guys lets be real here schenn couturier and read just aren't that good and unless they have a resurgence they'll all be utility 2nd 3rd liners
- 2Real

I think Schenn and Couts together have looked like 2nd line players who are effective. If we could find another winger for them (Konecny?). In the blog from yesterday, I mentioned targeting Boedker. Maybe he could be a guy to bring to solidify our 2nd line