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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:29 PM ET
Absolutely.....

If i was a TB fan i wouldn't want management to trade him...TB has a shot at a long playoff run again this year and even if it means he walks i would take him for that run even if it meant losing him for nothing...

I get the asset management thing but a playoff run very imp as well...

- Fruitcakenipple

Captain and face of franchise with potentially no indication he has a desire to leave.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Feb 12 @ 5:31 PM ET
Absolutely.....

If i was a TB fan i wouldn't want management to trade him...TB has a shot at a long playoff run again this year and even if it means he walks i would take him for that run even if it meant losing him for nothing...

I get the asset management thing but a playoff run very imp as well...

- Fruitcakenipple


You'd keep him for playoffs, even though that's where he chokes?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 12 @ 5:32 PM ET
So Mr contract expert what should they have done prior to July 1st when the nmc kicked in?
- Feds91Stammer


With a high priced asset, you make your highest and best offer long before July 1st. If he refuses to sign that you know exactly where you stand.

If I were Yzerman, I would have had discussions with possible trade partners the minute the season ended.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:33 PM ET
You'd keep him for playoffs, even though that's where he chokes?
- Leniwm1

35 points in 48 games is now choking eh?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:33 PM ET
With a high priced asset, you make your highest and best offer long before July 1st. If he refuses to sign that you know exactly where you stand.

If I were Yzerman, I would have had discussions with possible trade partners the minute the season ended.

- madmike71

You can't make an offer prior to July 1st...
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 12 @ 5:34 PM ET
Captain and face of franchise with potentially no indication he has a desire to leave.
- Feds91Stammer



Yep... It's ridiculous to say they should have traded him last summer..No GM in this league would have done that...
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 12 @ 5:35 PM ET
You'd keep him for playoffs, even though that's where he chokes?
- Leniwm1



You dont know shtt
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 12 @ 5:35 PM ET
35 points in 48 games is now choking eh?
- Feds91Stammer


Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Feb 12 @ 5:37 PM ET
35 points in 48 games is now choking eh?
- Feds91Stammer


I didnt check his stats, I thought he was worse. I like the guy, but he is a goner because he wants to be close to home.

But he is being selfish because he knows he aint staying so he could have told the Bolts to move him so they can get a great return. But he'd rather not be hated in Tampa once he leaves so he's playing a game and that is what I dont like.

Listen to him talk, he never EVER said he wants to stay with Tampa to win a cup, he says he wants to win a cup with "this team". 2 very different meanings if the Bolts dont win this year and he hasnt signed with them.

He's talking like a captain and a pro which is fine, but if you cared about Tampa, I would think he would care about the return he can fetch them.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 12 @ 5:37 PM ET
You can't make an offer prior to July 1st...
- Feds91Stammer


See... I don't know the exact dates on when you are officially allowed to extend a deal, but you certainly can get a verbal agreement. If Stamkos is unwilling to even do that, then again, you know exactly where you stand.

Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Feb 12 @ 5:39 PM ET
Absolutely.....

If i was a TB fan i wouldn't want management to trade him...TB has a shot at a long playoff run again this year and even if it means he walks i would take him for that run even if it meant losing him for nothing...

I get the asset management thing but a playoff run very imp as well...

- Fruitcakenipple

Stamkos is holding all the cards in this. Everyone needs to put him being traded out of their heads, because it ain't going to happen. He either re-signs a long term extension in Tampa Bay, or he goes the free-agency and signs for the highest bidder.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:42 PM ET

- Fruitcakenipple

Are there any good trolls left on here?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 12 @ 5:44 PM ET
Stamkos is holding all the cards in this. Everyone needs to put him being traded out of their heads, because it ain't going to happen. He either re-signs a long term extension in Tampa Bay, or he goes the free-agency and signs for the highest bidder.
- Artyukhin76


100% agree.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:44 PM ET
See... I don't know the exact dates on when you are officially allowed to extend a deal, but you certainly can get a verbal agreement. If Stamkos is unwilling to even do that, then again, you know exactly where you stand.
- madmike71

I feel like you have the impression an nhl contract is 2 pages long. Verbal agreement lol gtfo
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 12 @ 5:46 PM ET
Are there any good trolls left on here?
- Feds91Stammer


They rare.....Nucks still have a couple...
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

Feb 12 @ 5:46 PM ET

What would it take to land Drouin on the flames?

Hudler + 3rd?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:50 PM ET
What would it take to land Drouin on the flames?

Hudler + 3rd?

- Razzdazzle1

Bennett gaudreau and a 1st
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 12 @ 5:51 PM ET
Bennett gaudreau and a 1st
- Feds91Stammer



Nice starting point....
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:51 PM ET
They rare.....Nucks still have a couple...
- Fruitcakenipple

I feel like I can still produce troll posts at a fairly elite level when I'm in the mood.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:52 PM ET
Nice starting point....
- Fruitcakenipple

It's jon (frank)ing drouin greatest player ever. Gotta pay the price my man.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Feb 12 @ 5:52 PM ET
What would it take to land Drouin on the flames?

Hudler + 3rd?

- Razzdazzle1



You're as crazy as a soup sandwich.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 12 @ 5:54 PM ET
I feel like you have the impression an nhl contract is 2 pages long. Verbal agreement lol gtfo
- Feds91Stammer


So let me guess... You think agents and teams don't negotiate prior to July 1st. You need to gtfo.

Most deals are done verbally before pen ever hits paper. Verbal agreements are usually not enforceable, certainly in this case it wouldn't be, but you sure as hell know where you stand when someone refuses the basic framework of a deal.





Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Feb 12 @ 6:21 PM ET
It kicked in this year. Yzerman Was the gm. Stamkos probably had it in because he has no intentions of becoming a ufa rental.
- Feds91Stammer


NMC likely Meehan's idea. NMC are cheap to add to a contract but sure tie a GM's hands. NMC are generally being replaced by limited trade lists of 10 to 12 teams.

I believe after last June, all Stamkos wanted to do was win the SC with Tampa. I expect Meehan was looking after his client's best interests so negotiations were slow last summer and they were interested in getting the best deal for Stamkos (and Meehan's cut). I also think Yzerman is worried about all the other signings he has to do and trying to keep to the cap. Stamko's playoffs also didn't knock Yzerman's socks off.

I expect Stamkos to resign in Tampa and I remember Arty will owe me a beer when it happens.
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

Feb 12 @ 7:05 PM ET


You're as crazy as a soup sandwich.

- Artyukhin76



Hamilton was traded for a mid 1st + 2nd... Drouin is on strike. Are you sure I'm that crazy?
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

Feb 12 @ 7:08 PM ET
Bennett gaudreau and a 1st
- Feds91Stammer




Players that can't make the Nhl team and cry about it by going on strike are usually traded for top dollar
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