No I dont think I would that. Bo is future captain of the Canucks (i believe), but with the glut of centers we have, I would let McCann go in a trade for Drouin.

How about this. Allegedly the Leafs and Blues are discussing Kadri for Shattenkirk (as per EF). We are desperate for defense, maybe McCann + for Shattenkirk?
- JMD007

While I have no idea of what specifically St. Louis are looking for, Kadri is obviously more of an NHL player than McCann at the moment. You gotta think St. Louis are looking for guys now, as opposed to the future (not that I believe Kadri for Shattenkirk is actually a thing)

Now I have something to be mad about, the price of my weed went up.

Hell, I've got a 2nd (Montreal) and a 3rd (Florida) favorite team... but then again, I live in the States and don't get HNIC
- GloveHandStrong

HNIC sucks... you aren't missing anything... i'd rather listen to Beninake or emerick, or whoever the f* else is calling the game than that idiot former isles goalchie with the idiotic comments. don't wnat to see ron mclean or the other guy either...

Neem....Im pretty sure Bo is untouchable.

I would think with Vey being scratched the C thats maybe leaves would likely be Vey or Cracknell. Id rather keep cracknell if you ask me, more of a 4C type than Vey and a better FO% w physical play to boot. Cracknell wont have any trade value really however, but Vey will given age, draft position, potential etc.

maybe neither are back.

Neem....Im pretty sure Bo is untouchable.

I would think with Vey being scratched the C thats maybe leaves would likely be Vey or Cracknell. Id rather keep cracknell if you ask me, more of a 4C type than Vey and a better FO% w physical play to boot. Cracknell wont have any trade value really however, but Vey will given age, draft position, potential etc.

maybe neither are back.
- SMBDragon

According to practice today Vey has been moved to the wing. At least for Thursday's game anyways.

While I have no idea of what specifically St. Louis are looking for, Kadri is obviously more of an NHL player than McCann at the moment. You gotta think St. Louis are looking for guys now, as opposed to the future (not that I believe Kadri for Shattenkirk is actually a thing)
- walshyleafsfan

Good point, McCann might not be far enough along for a team trying to win it now. Maybe McCann + Hansen gets it done? I think they want a young center that can replace Backes (both Kadri and McCann fit that bill, but Kadri has more NHL level experience and is no doubt farther along than McCann) Hansen would be a fantastic additional to any team that has a legit shot at a deep playoff run.

Man I would like to see Shattenkirk in a Canucks jersey!

I think I would do that trade. Love McCann, dont mind losing Gaunce, but Drouins upside make me drool! His sense of entitlement and attitude, might be an issue. But nothing the Sedins and BoHo couldnt get in line.
- JMD007

Drouin has 6 goals in 89 NHL games and 0 pts in 6 NHL playoff games. Apparently he's 5'11" and 185lbs.

Markus Granlund is the same size, has 14 goals in 86 games and 1 playoff pt. in 3 games.

Jared McCann is 6' 180 and has 7 goals in 50 NHL games.


What is it about Drouin that is driving all this hype? He wasn't exactly lighting it up in the AHL when he was sent down.

HNIC sucks... you aren't missing anything... i'd rather listen to Beninake or emerick, or whoever the f* else is calling the game than that idiot former isles goalchie with the idiotic comments. don't wnat to see ron mclean or the other guy either...
- kaptaan

I live in Blackhawks Territory and with the NBC games, we get Doc Emrick and Eddie Olczyk..... i do miss the Comedy of Coaches Corner tho

Drouin has 6 goals in 89 NHL games and 0 pts in 6 NHL playoff games. Apparently he's 5'11" and 185lbs.

Markus Granlund is the same size, has 14 goals in 86 games and 1 playoff pt. in 3 games.

Jared McCann is 6' 180 and has 7 goals in 50 NHL games.


What is it about Drouin that is driving all this hype? He wasn't exactly lighting it up in the AHL when he was sent down.
- YeOldTimer

This.

Good point, McCann might not be far enough along for a team trying to win it now. Maybe McCann + Hansen gets it done? I think they want a young center that can replace Backes (both Kadri and McCann fit that bill, but Kadri has more NHL level experience and is no doubt farther along than McCann) Hansen would be a fantastic additional to any team that has a legit shot at a deep playoff run.

Man I would like to see Shattenkirk in a Canucks jersey!
- JMD007

Agreed with Hansen and the comment about a contender. No idea what people make but, Hansen and Hamhuis (add some kinda pick) for Shattenkirk (added some kinda pick). Vancouver may have to take some contract back (short term) to make sure St. Louis are under the cap

Edit: maybe a prospect needs adding from Vancouver's side

Drouin has 6 goals in 89 NHL games and 0 pts in 6 NHL playoff games. Apparently he's 5'11" and 185lbs.

Markus Granlund is the same size, has 14 goals in 86 games and 1 playoff pt. in 3 games.

Jared McCann is 6' 180 and has 7 goals in 50 NHL games.


What is it about Drouin that is driving all this hype? He wasn't exactly lighting it up in the AHL when he was sent down.
- YeOldTimer

he is massively skilled and was drafted top 3, plus the lightning gave him a shiitty development track and f*d him around lots so he likely underperformed and wasn't developed properly while there....

I live in Blackhawks Territory and with the NBC games, we get Doc Emrick and Eddie Olczyk..... i do miss the Comedy of Coaches Corner tho
- GloveHandStrong

you watch that on youtube a day or two later, np...

my second fav team is montreal and third is ottawa, both of those are cuz i live in the leafs catchment area and wearing a Nux sweater doesn't piss the idiots off out there as much as wearing a senators or habs sweater does.

you watch that on youtube a day or two later, np...

my second fav team is montreal and third is ottawa, both of those are cuz i live in the leafs catchment area and wearing a Nux sweater doesn't piss the idiots off out there as much as wearing a senators or habs sweater does.
- kaptaan

That's a sad admission for a Vancouver fan.

Drouin has 6 goals in 89 NHL games and 0 pts in 6 NHL playoff games. Apparently he's 5'11" and 185lbs.

Markus Granlund is the same size, has 14 goals in 86 games and 1 playoff pt. in 3 games.

Jared McCann is 6' 180 and has 7 goals in 50 NHL games.


What is it about Drouin that is driving all this hype? He wasn't exactly lighting it up in the AHL when he was sent down.
- YeOldTimer

Exactly. Which is why I want a dman back if McCann is getting traded

he is massively skilled and was drafted top 3, plus the lightning gave him a shiitty development track and f*d him around lots so he likely underperformed and wasn't developed properly while there....
- kaptaan

So what??? he has also be outperformed by Monahan, Horvat, Domi ect that were all drafted after him. I'm not calling him a bust but draft position is not a reason to trade for a guy.

Looking at the ice-time and match-ups they have given Bo in his sophomore season, I don't see Bo going anywhere.
- fiveandagame

Benning has already stated that Yzerman wanted Bo and he said no. He is a core player and isn't going anywhere

he is massively skilled and was drafted top 3, plus the lightning gave him a shiitty development track and f*d him around lots so he likely underperformed and wasn't developed properly while there....
- kaptaan

And Tampa knows this which is why he hasn't been dealt yet. If he was comparable to Shink or Granlund he would've been moved by now

I would have rather had Benning trade Hunter Shinkaruk and a 3rd/4th to Calgary for Hunter "Big Rig" Smith (a 20 year old, 2nd round pick).

Exactly. Which is why I want a dman back if McCann is getting traded
- fiveandagame

JM could be just going to play on the Comets. His team is down one game already. He could be in Utica next week

Exactly. One thing I like about this management group is they aren't afraid to make bold moves and potentially mistakes. Gillis hurt the future of the team because he was afraid of public perception and it caused him to hold onto assets too long when it was clear they should have been shipped out.

If Benning doesn't like somebody they are gone and he doesn't care about perception. He brings in the players he and the scouts want. He also isn't afraid to admit mistakes and ship them out or waive them (Vey, Clendenning). It's clear he will make some mistakes but I appreciate that he is decisive and has a vision for the roster. That and I like the trade action
- CanuckDon

I remember 7 or 8 years ago many on this forum complaining because, of the lack of trade action from Burkes' Doughnut Boy.

I remember 7 or 8 years ago many on this forum complaining because, of the lack of trade action from Burkes' Doughnut Boy.
- rugdnit

He was the worst GM we have had in a long time. I didn't like Gillis but Nonis was far worse

Why wouldn't I compare them? I am not judging Gillis for making "win now" transactions I am judging him for indecision and a general paralysis when it came to making trades. Near the end of his tenure he simply let the core erode and left the team in a terrible position due to fear of his perception in the media. Also, why wouldn't we compare their draft record? This is an odd comment. I don't care to debate the subject now but fans should definitley compare the past regime to the current one.
- CanuckDon

I'm not defending Gillis but sticking with what's been working is not indecision, and I highly doubt he worried about his perception in the media. He was pretty arrogant. The Canucks had simply committed to a particular style of team play and they dominated the league with it for a while. After the application of the rules changed to favor the bigger American teams in the playoffs, he tinkered to try and add some of that to their lineup but we now know in hindsight it was never going to be enough. Lots of no-trades prevented them from switching and becoming the next Bruins overnight.

Drafting 29th and having traded away picks in several rounds year after year means your drafting strategy is going to be different than when you have most of your picks and are drafting in a higher position in every round.

Hamhuis said Tuesday the team hasn't asked him or his agent about waiving his no-trade clause, reports Jay Janower of Global BC. Regardless, the 33-year-old admits he and his family are discussing their options as they anticipate a potential move.

Yup, we spent a long time talking about how Chicago flipped core pieces before they got stale. MG didnt do that, which I dont blame him for since I dont know what the market was for any roster players. But his stance with Luongo stands out the most as holding out for better and the offers got worse and worse. JB just pulls the trigger for better or for worse and tries to fix the ones that arent cutting it
- WhiteLie

Luongo's contract was unmoveable until Tallon thought he had enough to work with in Florida that he needed a veteran goalie to backstop his young talent. Made no sense to pay for that luxury when you're a losing team on a low budget. Now that investment makes sense. Timing more than anything to do with the GM.

Again, not defending Gillis. Just trying to look at things a bit more realistically.

I'm not defending Gillis but sticking with what's been working is not indecision, and I highly doubt he worried about his perception in the media. He was pretty arrogant. The Canucks had simply committed to a particular style of team play and they dominated the league with it for a while. After the application of the rules changed to favor the bigger American teams in the playoffs, he tinkered to try and add some of that to their lineup but we now know in hindsight it was never going to be enough. Lots of no-trades prevented them from switching and becoming the next Bruins overnight.

Drafting 29th and having traded away picks in several rounds year after year means your drafting strategy is going to be different than when you have most of your picks and are drafting in a higher position in every round.
- YeOldTimer

Gillis was bad at trades