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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Trade Hunter Shinkaruk for Markus Granlund; What's Next?
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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 23 @ 6:30 PM ET
Carol will be happy. 1000+ responses in relation to an AHL player traded for another NHL lite player.
I think we will break HB if the Sedins get traded.

- Linden_4_Capt

Did you mean when.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 23 @ 6:31 PM ET
true rebuild is it now?
- Codes1087

the last move doesnt really provide information either way..
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
Why? just because they play centre? they are both very different centres, McCann is top 2C, Granlund bottom 2C
- A_SteamingLombardi

I think Bo and McCann are both top 6 centers, but 2nd liners. Whether or not McCann is truly at that level is debatable, but niether guy is the 1c of the future. We don't need two second line centers, McCann has been a great bottom 6 center this year, but now that we have another bottom 6 center he is more expendable. At least that the logic I'm going off of.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
Did you mean when.
- VANTEL

I did but didn't want to cause another hysteria fit in here.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 6:33 PM ET
true rebuild is it now?
- Codes1087



Not until the Sedin era is over, only then can Vancouver "truly rebuild."
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 6:33 PM ET
Nichushkin and Benn for Hamhuis And McCann
- VANTEL


This is not a terrible deal for both sides actually. I'm not sure Jordie is available, as he clearly has some upside.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
Carol will be happy. 1000+ responses in relation to an AHL player traded for another NHL lite player.
I think we will break HB if the Sedins get traded.

- Linden_4_Capt

true.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 6:36 PM ET


Not until the Sedin era is over, only then can Vancouver "truly rebuild."

- As_I_See_It


Naslund and the WCE were here for much of the last rebuild where the Sedins were cutting their teeth. You keep them around until Bo and co. are ready to hold the torch.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 6:36 PM ET
I think Bo and McCann are both top 6 centers, but 2nd liners. Whether or not McCann is truly at that level is debatable, but niether guy is the 1c of the future. We don't need two second line centers, McCann has been a great bottom 6 center this year, but now that we have another bottom 6 center he is more expendable. At least that the logic I'm going off of.
- neem55


I'm not sure, I see McCann similar to Kesler in that hes an excellent 2C but might not be able to cut it in the #1 role, but somewhere between the two, and Bo as in between 2C and 3C, depending on his offensive output. Either way, if those are the Canucks' top two centers 5 years from now, I wouldnt have a problem with it. Turris in Ottawa is doing a decent job playing 1st line, even though I dont think hes a true #1C either
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 23 @ 6:38 PM ET
Vantel set your lineup!!
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
I'm not sure, I see McCann similar to Kesler in that hes an excellent 2C but might not be able to cut it in the #1 role, but somewhere between the two, and Bo as in between 2C and 3C, depending on his offensive output. Either way, if those are the Canucks' top two centers 5 years from now, I wouldnt have a problem with it. Turris in Ottawa is doing a decent job playing 1st line, even though I dont think hes a true #1C either
- WhiteLie

They would be very similar to the burgeron and krecji duo in boston and nothing wrong with that. Just have put some bigger guys around them.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 23 @ 6:41 PM ET
weber from buffalo to the caps for a 3rd...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
I think Bo and McCann are both top 6 centers, but 2nd liners. Whether or not McCann is truly at that level is debatable, but niether guy is the 1c of the future. We don't need two second line centers, McCann has been a great bottom 6 center this year, but now that we have another bottom 6 center he is more expendable. At least that the logic I'm going off of.
- neem55

That's insane logic.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 6:47 PM ET
They would be very similar to the burgeron and krecji duo in boston and nothing wrong with that. Just have put some bigger guys around them.
- mauryballstein


Exactly, I was thinking of Bergeron as a Bo comparison, but Kreicji works well for McCann too. Neither are flashy but are solid
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 23 @ 6:48 PM ET
weber from buffalo to the caps for a 3rd...
- mauryballstein

Scratch Hamhuis off that list
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Feb 23 @ 6:48 PM ET
weber from buffalo to the caps for a 3rd...
- mauryballstein

Buffalo retains 50% of the salary...
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 23 @ 6:49 PM ET
Scratch Hamhuis off that list
- VANTEL

Yup! But if weber who has like 5 points got a 3rd im very curious to see what hamhuis would get.

Edit: Would he have similar value to bart? id assume so
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 23 @ 6:51 PM ET
I dont think McCann will be traded, but maybe this trade is to set up the team for moving him to the wing? Honestly he could have great potential with this team as a RW, dunno... such an odd trade.... My only other theory is that JB really didnt like him, and he was being honest when he said that was the best he could get for him (im thinking he was probably just looking for a 1 for 1 swap, and no system trades young ELC players unless they are over them.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 23 @ 6:56 PM ET
I'd rather see Edler traded and Hamhuis extended at this point. Edler is the type of guy you want for playoff runs, and that's just not for us, Hamhuis is for rebuilds. Trade Edler while we can still get something for that pylon.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 23 @ 6:57 PM ET
I'd rather see Edler traded and Hamhuis extended at this point. Edler is the type of guy you want for playoff runs, and that's just not for us, Hamhuis is for rebuilds. Trade Edler while we can still get something for that pylon.
- Crazybagoham

I wana trade hamhuis now and edler at the draft. Then id have no problem signing hamhuis on july 1.

Great way to maximize assets
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:06 PM ET
What's next? Another 10 years of mediocrity
- domi_legend

How about a 3 month ban, will that work for what's next?
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Feb 23 @ 7:06 PM ET
Scratch Hamhuis off that list
- VANTEL



don't think he was every on the list. Washington never had the cap space to acquire someone like hamhuis.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 7:09 PM ET
That's insane logic.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Pretty unqualified claim, why don't you elaborate.
See my logic is, we had 3 bottom six centers in Vey/Crack/McCann. Addition of Granlund, we have 4 (still with me?). so that means we have too many bottom six centers, the bottom six center with the most return value is, wait for it... McCann. It's an inference based on math, which as it turns out is fairly sane.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 7:11 PM ET
I'd rather see Edler traded and Hamhuis extended at this point. Edler is the type of guy you want for playoff runs, and that's just not for us, Hamhuis is for rebuilds. Trade Edler while we can still get something for that pylon.
- Crazybagoham


Great guy for playoffs and a pylon
You may be right about changing McCann to the wing.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 23 @ 7:12 PM ET
Yup! But if weber who has like 5 points got a 3rd im very curious to see what hamhuis would get.

Edit: Would he have similar value to bart? id assume so

- mauryballstein


2017 3rd...Hamhuis gets a 2016 second for sure. Hopefully more
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