I did say that about Edler and Higgins last season. I did say it about Higgins this year too.
- VANTEL

...and now you're known as "The Waiver".

...and now you're known as "The Waiver".
- Marwood

all we need is a gif of that sponge bob character with the waving hemorrhoids...

...and now you're known as "The Waiver".
- Marwood

We build our own beds

I deserved it.


My opinion is I would absolutely 100 % love to have Hamhuis over Edler , but that is very unlikely. One of them needs to be moved. We can't have our D resembling this years lineup.

So now that Vrbata and Hammer might be packaged together, what do we think the return could be?

all we need is a gif of that sponge bob character with the waving hemorrhoids...
- hillbillydeluxe

I should send you a picture of my honeymoon then

I should send you a picture of my honeymoon then
- VANTEL

I appreciate your sense of humour until the pic arrives...

So now that Vrbata and Hammer might be packaged together, what do we think the return could be?
- neem55

Hope it's not Terravanien the guy ways 125 lbs . We have enough small guys

I appreciate your sense of humour until the pic arrives...
- hillbillydeluxe

Hope it's not Terravanien the guy ways 125 lbs . We have enough small guys
- VANTEL

Well we probably have to eat the Bickell contract to start... but I was thinking maybe trevor van rymsdyk... they do have a first too

Hope it's not Terravanien the guy ways 125 lbs . We have enough small guys
- VANTEL

Will be Teuravanien for sure, Benning is stocking up on centers

Will be Teuravanien for sure, Benning is stocking up on centers
- JMD007

but only undersized ones

TT I truly dont believe will be involved in any trade for rentals.

Well we probably have to eat the Bickell contract to start... but I was thinking maybe trevor van rymsdyk... they do have a first too
- neem55

Bickell should have nothing to do with the trade. Why do we need to take his salary? Are they offering the 2017 2 nd round pick with it?

Bickell should have nothing to do with the trade. Why do we need to take his salary? Are they offering the 2017 2 nd round pick with it?
- VANTEL

i would hope for more. Toronto basically got a 2nd rounder for eating Torres salary... and that was only for the remainder of this year..... Bickell has another year to go!

Never been a big fan of Hammer, but the fact that he's currently our 2/3 best dman says a lot and the team can use any decent d-core that it can get.

Glad to hear that he might be willing to accept a trade. If he does come back though, and if you want him back - winning the cup is probably not something you'd want to see....would only increase his value.

I think a lot of teams would want Vrbata just for his shot production, especially in the age of analytics...take what you can get!
- Ronning4ever

Of course you want a winner that is a good leader in the locker room and on the ice. If he comes back at a good rate then I am all for it.
If you want comparison of the impact of an aging vet coming off winning a cup, look no further then Willie Mitchel. The value of these players are immense and in the right environment they can be the mentor that we need for our young D.

Bickell should have nothing to do with the trade. Why do we need to take his salary? Are they offering the 2017 2 nd round pick with it?
- VANTEL

I don`t think they can make the money work other wise, I guess we could just retain a big chunk. I think trading for Bickell is good because yes we ultimately should get more in return and we need to think long-term.
Let`s say we get TVR, Bickell and a 1st for VRBY and Hammer, that`s starting to look pretty sexy.

Of course you want a winner that is a good leader in the locker room and on the ice. If he comes back at a good rate then I am all for it.
If you want comparison of the impact of an aging vet coming off winning a cup, look no further then Willie Mitchel. The value of these players are immense and in the right environment they can be the mentor that we need for our young D.
- Linden_4_Capt

Hammhuis is what he is, regardless of winning a cup. I was always a Willie M fan - shut down specialist, leader - though I understood not signing him with the concussion.

Never felt the same way about Hammer and don't see it as a good comparison myself. Good 3/4 defenseman, but I always felt he was over-rated. Never a lot points and not the strongest shut down guy...the series winning goal against LA is always what defined him for me. I like Tanev better as our shut-down D.

That said, D is the teams biggest need IMHO...Hammer would be a hell of a lot better than a lot of what's out there...or in the current team's system.

where is everyone?
- Codes1087

We thought to needed some time to yourself for self reflection.

Bickell should have nothing to do with the trade. Why do we need to take his salary? Are they offering the 2017 2 nd round pick with it?
- VANTEL

Probably to counter balance the fact that CHI would take 9.5 mil off our hands if they took both Vrbata and Hammer. We don't retain any of Vrbatas or hammers salary but gain Bickells. It would be worth it to take Bickell back if they gave up TT.

I don`t think they can make the money work other wise, I guess we could just retain a big chunk. I think trading for Bickell is good because yes we ultimately should get more in return and we need to think long-term.
Let`s say we get TVR, Bickell and a 1st for VRBY and Hammer, that`s starting to look pretty sexy.
- neem55

That deal would be bananas. No way that Chicago goes for it, IMHO - but if they did sign me up. I think you're more likely to see Hamhuis for a second and Vrbata for a low pick...like a 5th. Maybe a struggling prospect if you're lucky.

Probably to counter balance the fact that CHI would take 9.5 mil off our hands if they took both Vrbata and Hammer. We don't retain any of Vrbatas or hammers salary but gain Bickells. It would be worth it to take Bickell back if they gave up TT.
- LordHumungous

Would rather Van Reimsdyk

That deal would be bananas. No way that Chicago goes for it, IMHO - but if they did sign me up. I think you're more likely to see Hamhuis for a second and Vrbata for a low pick...like a 5th. Maybe a struggling prospect if you're lucky.
- Ronning4ever

I would see what Dallas and LA are offering then.

Will be Teuravanien for sure, Benning is stocking up on centers
- JMD007

Nah - Teravainen plays a lot of RW, so he's out....

That deal would be bananas. No way that Chicago goes for it, IMHO - but if they did sign me up. I think you're more likely to see Hamhuis for a second and Vrbata for a low pick...like a 5th. Maybe a struggling prospect if you're lucky.
- Ronning4ever

I agree it's a little nuts, but they really need Bickell off the books (3 more years?!), as crazy as that trade is for 2 rentals.

Would rather Van Reimsdyk
- VANTEL

Van Reinsdyk is decent...would be ok as well.