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Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Mar 1 @ 12:30 PM ET
After next year the Streit and Umberger come off the books. That's about 9 million on cap hit.

The cap could go the other way and make even more room.

I don't think it is as far fetched to see the Flyers explore Stamkos as people think.

- J35Bacher


Also, who says he gets $10 mil? Can they do $8 per year but front load the cap hit? (Not sure how those rules work). I don't think it's crazy to explore it, I just don't want to become the Pens and lose our ability to build depth because all of out money is tied up in 3 players.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
Also, who says he gets $10 mil? Can they do $8 per year but front load the cap hit? (Not sure how those rules work). I don't think it's crazy to explore it, I just don't want to become the Pens and lose our ability to build depth because all of out money is tied up in 3 players.
- Tomfan365


This is pretty much what would happen except Malkin, Crosby and Letang are a better group than Giroux, Voracek and Stamkos
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
Absolute POS!

NHL Player Safety ‏@NHLPlayerSafety now2 minutes ago

Boston’s Zac Rinaldo suspended five games for an illegal check to the head of Tampa Bay’s Cedric Paquette. Video: http://ow.ly/YWhXW

- PLindbergh31


I think I just read a piece somewhere that mentioned that Rinaldo had gone 51 games without a suspension.

Guess they need to reset that calendar.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
This is pretty much what would happen except Malkin, Crosby and Letang are a better group than Giroux, Voracek and Stamkos
- PhillySportsGuy

we are going to have to pay ghost and provolone and kinonky and manheim too at some point
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Mar 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
This is pretty much what would happen except Malkin, Crosby and Letang are a better group than Giroux, Voracek and Stamkos
- PhillySportsGuy


To be fair, we haven't seen Jake, G, and Stamkos together
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
we are going to have to pay ghost and provolone and kinonky and manheim too at some point
- Marc D


I see you are using the WIP Caller pronunciation today.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
There is an article on philly.com about the new look top line in voraceks absence. Didn't those three play together a couple games before g and Voracek got hurt?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
we are going to have to pay ghost and provolone and kinonky and manheim too at some point
- Marc D


Provolone it is

In reality we all know he will be provy
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 1 @ 12:44 PM ET
Provolone it is

In reality we all know he will be provy

- funmaster18



He needs to wear #80

Then we can call him 80 Proof.

(thanks Ill be here all the week.)
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
I have heard that Snider is dealing with cancer treatment. He's been in California, where he actually resides, and hasn't made many-if any-trips to Philly during this season. It's been discussed and mentioned a little bit before Jim Watson's speech last night, but it really made a lot of folks take notice. Given Snider's age, any major illness is obviously cause for concern.

We all have to be grateful for the gift that Ed Snider gave us 50 years ago. For all his faults, they are faults born out of a desire to win. He not only gave us the Flyers, he gave us a family. The foundation he laid, the organization he built and maintained, despite the Cup drought, has been as close to a gold standard as exists in sports.

Snider built the team, his own buildings, a fanbase and grew the sport in the Delaware Valley. His fingerprints are all over everything the organization has done over the past 5 decades. Hopefully he gets through his current issues and gets to see a third Flyers Stanley Cup

- Jsaquella



and even more than just the Flyers, the Flyers charities including the Ed Snider Foundation. its been a privilege to work with Foundation over the years. its amazing what he has done for the city rinks many in which may have closed had he not stepped in. He has been an amazing owner and while the Flyers have not won in 40 years I do believe since expansion they are the third highest winning team.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:49 PM ET
we are going to have to pay ghost and provolone and kinonky and manheim too at some point
- Marc D


I just don't think Stamkos is great. If I felt he could come in and put them over the top, I would be more enthusiastic.

What do people think Eric Staal is going to get on the open Market?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
I just don't think Stamkos is great. If I felt he could come in and put them over the top, I would be more enthusiastic.

What do people think Eric Staal is going to get on the open Market?

- PhillySportsGuy


Not sure, but I look forward to the Rangers overpaying him.
Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:01 PM ET
This is pretty much what would happen except Malkin, Crosby and Letang are a better group than Giroux, Voracek and Stamkos
- PhillySportsGuy


And they have seriously underachieved. With Fluery, aside when he's scoring on himself, they should have won a second and maybe a third cup with that roster.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
I just don't think Stamkos is great. If I felt he could come in and put them over the top, I would be more enthusiastic.

What do people think Eric Staal is going to get on the open Market?

- PhillySportsGuy

Depending on what he does in NY... 6 to 8 mil.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
I just don't think Stamkos is great. If I felt he could come in and put them over the top, I would be more enthusiastic.

What do people think Eric Staal is going to get on the open Market?

- PhillySportsGuy


Not sure, but it's going to be interesting which former captain / current captain signs first. Would have to think one will impact the other and players will use it as reflection for their deal. Staal, Backes, Ladd. Stamkos obviously gets more than all 3 of them.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
He needs to wear #80

Then we can call him 80 Proof.

(thanks Ill be here all the week.)

- MBFlyerfan


I have a feeling he might try for #9. Seems like it's his preferred number.

Yes I'm awaiting his first full year as a regular so as to get it made properly. I doubt the #79 from this preseason sticks.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Depending on what he does in NY... 6 to 8 mil.
- mayorofangrytown


It will depend on term but theres no way he gets 6-8 mil
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Depending on what he does in NY... 6 to 8 mil.
- mayorofangrytown


Per year?

God, I hope that's true. I don't think he's worth that.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
We're going to make the playoffs lead by the play of Schenn
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
Depending on what he does in NY... 6 to 8 mil.
- mayorofangrytown



31 Year old Eric Staal

I would say if he wants to stay in NY then 5 years around 27-30 million ?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
Depending on what he does in NY... 6 to 8 mil.
- mayorofangrytown

6 mil max at this point of his career look at marleau and thornton are paid right now
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 1 @ 1:09 PM ET
We're going to make the playoffs lead by the play of Schenn
- 2Real


I've criticized Brayden Schenn as much as anyone, so if this does go down, I need to know what side dish goes well with crow.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
Depending on what he does in NY... 6 to 8 mil.
- mayorofangrytown


Damn. Was thinking more in the $5M range would be good for the Flyers
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
Per year?

God, I hope that's true. I don't think he's worth that.

- johndewar

I don't either but salaries are still escalating despite the cap situation. If he turns it on in NY someone could throw 8 his way for 4 years. I think it would be foolish but I could see it happen.

If he continues as is it could be 4-6.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:12 PM ET
and even more than just the Flyers, the Flyers charities including the Ed Snider Foundation. its been a privilege to work with Foundation over the years. its amazing what he has done for the city rinks many in which may have closed had he not stepped in. He has been an amazing owner and while the Flyers have not won in 40 years I do believe since expansion they are the third highest winning team.
- nastyflyergirl


Jim Watson's speech last night was so on point about everything Mr Snider has meant to this area. Not just as a team owner. I think a lot of new fans needed to hear what was in that speech to realize what he has done for hockey outside the Flyers.
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