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orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 14 @ 11:10 AM ET
2 things:

1-Villanova ball is the best college program we, in the Philly area, have to cheer for. We should be proud of Nova. Also, great great school-so beat it haters.

2-Provorov is going to be INSANE. He'll probably win at least 1 norris trophy.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:10 AM ET
Hey Bill, awesome stuff as always!
I have been following the progression of our prospects closer this year than any other before. Watching games at all levels (JR, AHL, NCAA (Madsen), NHL, IIHF)...

I also love hearing from scouts and national hockey figures. Craig Button is one of the best at giving his input on social media, and even interacting and answer questions. This weekend he entered into several different Q&A exchanges focused extensively on Flyers prospects. He mentioned Provorov being elite, high high end, and really worth the wait. Gave a comparison of Serge Savard and said he thinks he is capable of playing next year with the Flyers. Reallly likes the kid.

Also gave rave reviews for Myers saying that nagging injuries last year really never game him a shot to show what he was capable of and compared him to a Colton Parayko or Marco Scandella type d-man.

What do you think of his assessments?

- jak521


serge savard! master of the spin-a-rama!!! woooooo!!!!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:11 AM ET
According to Dave Isaac, Voracek joined practice late.
- TobyFlenderson


it's a ruse.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 14 @ 11:11 AM ET
Sorry. I only see two Philly schools there.
- PhillySportsGuy


You do realize St. Joes and Villanova are practically neighboring schools, right?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 14 @ 11:12 AM ET
Yeah for sure. I'm sure they took another x-ray of his foot before he skated. They haven't announced the injury, but Eskin reported it was a fracture. I wouldn't think 2 weeks would be enough time for a fracture to heal even if it wasn't bad.

Edit:

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 7m7 minutes ago

Stick taps for Voracek as he arrives late at practice.

- PLindbergh31

It depends on what bone, where and how it was broken and if they were able to protect against it... If it was the base of the 5th met (Jones fx) a lot of times players are able to play through it (football players especially) and just have a screw put in at the end of the season. They are notorious slow healers and more often than not end up requiring surgery anyway. I figured he just had a bit of an ankle sprain from the collision in the net.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:12 AM ET
i know it was a SO loss, but i would love to get stats on how many games the flyers have lost directly before the carnival. i swear it seems like every year.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 11:15 AM ET
None of your tall guy sport talk matters, because Duke always wins.
- jmatchett383


They won't make it to the sweet 16 this year, but Ingram will be a Sixer soon enough
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 11:16 AM ET
You do realize St. Joes and Villanova are practically neighboring schools, right?
- orangekrush2010


One is in Philly and the other is in radnor
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 11:19 AM ET
2 things:

1-Villanova ball is the best college program we, in the Philly area, have to cheer for. We should be proud of Nova. Also, great great school-so beat it haters.

2-Provorov is going to be INSANE. He'll probably win at least 1 norris trophy.

- orangekrush2010


I look forward to Nova's usual second round loss
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
Nice! Was a really fun team to follow.
- PLindbergh31



On the other hand, the teams while I was an undergrad there weren't fun to follow. lol

But Walsh gym was still a tough place for opponents to play. And we got to see some great players and coaches come through - Ewing, Mullen, Washington, Seikely, Pinkney, Carneseca, Thompson, Boeheim, Massimino. Good times in that gym.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
2 things:

1-Villanova ball is the best college program we, in the Philly area, have to cheer for. We should be proud of Nova. Also, great great school-so beat it haters.

- orangekrush2010


Frank Villanova
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 14 @ 11:21 AM ET
One is in Philly and the other is in radnor
- PhillySportsGuy


And? Vast majority of people in this area consider Villanova a philly-area program. Who gives a poop if theyre street address says. The school is literally 5 min from St Joes. They also play at the WF center.

villanova is by far the best school and program this area has to offer too, besides UPenn..be proud bruh.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 11:23 AM ET
They won't make it to the sweet 16 this year, but Ingram will be a Sixer soon enough
- PhillySportsGuy


I really don't see how he's the likely #1 pick this year. I watch a lot of Duke games and he plays young, is inconsistent, and scrawny as heck. lol
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 14 @ 11:25 AM ET
Guess these guys are actually pretty good now:

http://www.broadstreethoc...en-strength-play-analysis
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 11:25 AM ET
I really don't see how he's the likely #1 pick this year. I watch a lot of Duke games and he plays young, is inconsistent, and scrawny as heck. lol
- Scoob


Those are all easily fixable things. I think he's ahead of Simmonds. It has nothing to do with Simmonds attitude either. I just think he's the better prospect.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:30 AM ET
Actually, it's three teams (at least, I think so...):
Villanova
Temple
St.Joe's

- WhirlingDervish

Haters prefer to pretend greater Philadelphia is not Philadelphia. Thus his use of 2.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:33 AM ET
You do realize St. Joes and Villanova are practically neighboring schools, right?
- orangekrush2010

Never understood guys being chapped about Nova. Rollie's gone. So no one's trying to kill the Big 5 any more.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
i know it was a SO loss, but i would love to get stats on how many games the flyers have lost directly before the carnival. i swear it seems like every year.
- hammarby31

THey never win on Fan Appreciation Nights either. Which is why their recent STH Appreciation Night win was such a shock.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
Thank God, four gramor polece like you.
- flyers2001


I have no issue with grammar. It just seemed like an odd place for a break.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 11:45 AM ET
Never understood guys being chapped about Nova. Rollie's gone. So no one's trying to kill the Big 5 any more.
- bodiva88


Fought to keep Temple out of the Big East when it was clear they should have joined
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Mar 14 @ 11:53 AM ET
Haters prefer to pretend greater Philadelphia is not Philadelphia. Thus his use of 2.
- bodiva88


I consider all three part of the Philly college sports scene.

If you're going to take a hard line on it, the only true Philly team is Temple as they are in the heart of the city. If St. Joe's were on the other side of the street (City Line Ave.), they'd be in Bala Cyncwyd, which is Delaware County, and 5 mins from Villanova. And while technically that is Philly by definition, in reality, it's the burbs.

BTW, I'm a Temple grad, but I root for all three! (unless they play Temple)
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:00 PM ET
serge savard! master of the spin-a-rama!!! woooooo!!!!
- hammarby31

haha ... yeah ... wrong Savard.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:00 PM ET
If St. Joe's were on the other side of the street (City Line Ave.), they'd be in Bala Cyncwyd, which is Delaware County, and 5 mins from Villanova.
- WhirlingDervish


How far away from Villanova is it given the side of the street it actually is on?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:02 PM ET
Those are all easily fixable things. I think he's ahead of Simmonds. It has nothing to do with Simmonds attitude either. I just think he's the better prospect.
- PhillySportsGuy


Oh, I agree, but I just don't see him as being a #1 pick talent. I'm much less impressed by him than I was last year by Okafor, Jones, and Winslow.
flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:03 PM ET
Fought to keep Temple out of the Big East when it was clear they should have joined
- PhillySportsGuy



From a business standpoint, why would they want Temple in the Big East? It would cut into the media share and they would risk loosing recruits. Villanova did the right thing for themselves.
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