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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
From the stats I saw (can't remember where), it showed the Flyers goalies save % in shootouts was actually around the league average, but the shooting percentage of Flyers attempts was abysmal and dead last by a wide margin. They're simply not getting it done!
- aantny88


yep. it's on the shooters.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
you know when he puts on that flyers jersey, his first SO goal turns into him being impaled on his own stick as he tries to tuck that glove side, and the goalie makes a toe save.
- hammarby31


That's what I thought.. The second he puts on a Flyers jersey and makes a shootout attempt, he'll step on the puck and fly headfirst into the boards.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
That's what I thought.. The second he puts on a Flyers jersey and makes a shootout attempt, he'll step on the puck and fly headfirst into the boards.
- Hextall271


To his credit, Downie shoved him from behind.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
To his credit, Downie shoved him from behind.
- jmatchett383


at least it wasn't jesse bowlofrice.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
There's no reason that G, Jake, Schenn, Simmer, Read, Gagner can't get it done in a shootout. When our best attempt last night comes from a rookie, you realize it's a mental thing.
- Hextall271


It's very much in their heads. But even very good shootout players miss 7/10. There's so little room for error as a team in the shootout.

I wish it was 5 shooters each everytime, if the SO won't go away entirely. That would take away some of the flukiness and would force greater depth in shooters. After 65 min, 3 shooters just seems even chintzier than the already chintzy skills competition.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
yep. it's on the shooters.
- hammarby31


It's actually both. I think BSH did a writeup on it this year and both the shooters and goaltending have been horrible since its inception.

I feel like they must be unlucky too. Mason stops 4 straight shooters and they can't score once. In the next one, Mason will allow 3 goals and the Flyers will score 2.

http://www.broadstreethoc...on-or-the-flyers-shooters

This is the article with this year's numbers prior to last night. Mason near the bottom in save% and shooters near the bottom in shooting %
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
picnic mood?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
Good guess.

05-06: 4-6
06-07: 1-6
07-08: 3-6
08-09: 4-6
09-10: 4-3
10-11: 3-7
11-12: 4-7
12-13: 1-2
13-14: 3-8
14-15: 3-11
15-16: 2-8

- Feanor


32-70. That is flat out embarrassing.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
32-70. That is flat out embarrassing.
- PLindbergh31

orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
What's on the menu today fam?
- arichardson22


I HAD TWO PIECES OF CHICKEN MARSALA WITH EXTRA MUSHROOMS, GARLICY SPINACH, GARLIC PARM MASHED POTATOES AND 2L OF WATER AS MY DRINK. I ATE THIS MEAL WITH A FORK AND KNIFE!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
Good guess.

05-06: 4-6
06-07: 1-6
07-08: 3-6
08-09: 4-6
09-10: 4-3
10-11: 3-7
11-12: 4-7
12-13: 1-2
13-14: 3-8
14-15: 3-11
15-16: 2-8

- Feanor


Going 3-6 is good enough for making the ECF...not bad.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
It's very much in their heads. But even very good shootout players miss 7/10. There's so little room for error as a team in the shootout.

I wish it was 5 shooters each everytime, if the SO won't go away entirely. That would take away some of the flukiness and would force greater depth in shooters. After 65 min, 3 shooters just seems even chintzier than the already chintzy skills competition.

- Mononoke


agree. i'd much rather it go 5.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
It's actually both. I think BSH did a writeup on it this year and both the shooters and goaltending have been horrible since its inception.

I feel like they must be unlucky too. Mason stops 4 straight shooters and they can't score once. In the next one, Mason will allow 3 goals and the Flyers will score 2.

http://www.broadstreethoc...on-or-the-flyers-shooters

This is the article with this year's numbers prior to last night. Mason near the bottom in save% and shooters near the bottom in shooting %

- PhillySportsGuy


i have noticed that trend as well. all or nothing. i'm still putting this on the shooters anyway. i'm not going to read that piece out of fear of it making me take a nasty spill down the stairs and subjecting myself to further school absences. you can reach my parents at their places of business. thank you for stopping by.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
32-70. That is flat out embarrassing.
- PLindbergh31


not one single season with 5 wins. not one. stupid bumholes.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
32-70. That is flat out embarrassing.
- PLindbergh31


they're -19 in the last 3 seasons including this one alone.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
they're -19 in the last 3 seasons including this one alone.
- hammarby31


Didn't the Devils lose 19 straight shootouts at one point a few years ago? Amazingly their record is much better overall in shootouts.

If you had to guess the year the Flyers become a lifetime .500 shootout team, what would your guess be?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
Didn't the Devils lose 19 straight shootouts at one point a few years ago? Amazingly their record is much better overall in shootouts.

If you had to guess the year the Flyers become a lifetime .500 shootout team, what would your guess be?

- PLindbergh31



2038 or never if they remove the shootout before then
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
Didn't the Devils lose 19 straight shootouts at one point a few years ago? Amazingly their record is much better overall in shootouts.

If you had to guess the year the Flyers become a lifetime .500 shootout team, what would your guess be?

- PLindbergh31

2025
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 23 @ 3:33 PM ET
2025
- jak521


38 games over .500 in the next 9 years. Hmmmm..... Not sure I see that happening.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
Didn't the Devils lose 19 straight shootouts at one point a few years ago? Amazingly their record is much better overall in shootouts.

If you had to guess the year the Flyers become a lifetime .500 shootout team, what would your guess be?

- PLindbergh31


In the year 2525...

but in seriousness I hope by 2035 so it might be in my lifetime...
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
Didn't the Devils lose 19 straight shootouts at one point a few years ago? Amazingly their record is much better overall in shootouts.

If you had to guess the year the Flyers become a lifetime .500 shootout team, what would your guess be?

- PLindbergh31


Nevuary of 2020
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 23 @ 3:37 PM ET
There's no reason that G, Jake, Schenn, Simmer, Read, Gagner can't get it done in a shootout. When our best attempt last night comes from a rookie, you realize it's a mental thing.
- Hextall271


I don't know if it's just mental with Read. He's lost his goal scoring touch in general. He should have won it in OT.
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Mar 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
How is a goal allowed where the goalie was nearly jumping off the ice to blocker it away?

Oh well, over and done with. I'll be at the game on Saturday. Glad they're still fighting in March for this to be an important game.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 23 @ 3:39 PM ET


(further proof that Ghost is the best ever)
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Mar 23 @ 3:40 PM ET
I don't know if it's just mental with Read. He's lost his goal scoring touch in general. He should have won it in OT.
- Feanor


Bob was there for the save but shooting it two feet over the net is kind of embarrassing.
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